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t.crow
1st August 2012, 04:52
If you keep up with metal music and its progression throughout the years, you may have noticed a new movement popping up recently. "Djent" has been used to describe very heavy, down tuned metal using primarily 8 stringed guitars and poly-rhythmic patterns. The band Meshuggah pretty much pioneered the entire "genre" in the mid to late 90's with albums like Destroy.Erase.Improve and Chaosphere. Now it seems like everywhere you turn theres a new band using this Meshuggah formula and riding the wave of popularity that this sound currently enjoys. There are a few bands that really stick out: Periphery, Vildjharta and Veil of Maya to name a couple (Check out most of Sumerian Records bands if your interested, it seems all they sign are groups that play like this).

So I was just curious what the metal heads here think of this new movement, if it really is a genre, and if you think this sound is just a fad that will fade away just like Nu Metal and Metalcore (for the most part). If you didnt know about all this before, look it up and tell me what you think.

Yuppie Grinder
1st August 2012, 05:16
I wouldn't call Djent new. Meshuggah and the like have been around for a while. I really don't care for the stuff. Also, calling metalcore a fad is pretty inaccurate since it's been around since the early 90s and good records still get released.

Rusty Shackleford
1st August 2012, 05:23
Should i have listened to Meshuggah? Right now im digging Megachurch...


Down Tuned and Heavy i definitely like though.

Welshy
1st August 2012, 05:23
I don't really listen to any djent stuff as I prefer black metal, but I found a one man project called Gru that has been labeled djent that I thought was pretty good. http://grumusic.bandcamp.com/

t.crow
1st August 2012, 06:20
I wouldn't call Djent new. Meshuggah and the like have been around for a while. I really don't care for the stuff. Also, calling metalcore a fad is pretty inaccurate since it's been around since the early 90s and good records still get released.
My apologies I didnt mean to call it "new", Im pretty sure Meshuggah has been around since '89 (I could be wrong here) although back in the day they sounded more like an off-time metallica. What I was trying to convey was how Meshuggah seems to have started this entire movement in metal using strange rhythms and 8 stringed guitars that has just in the past couple of years has really risen to "fame". And I suppose your right about metalcore, but it just seems to me like that sound really exploded in 2000-2008ish but then appeared to fizzle out. But thats my opinion.

And Ive heard Gru and theyre pretty cool! Ive found that the "Djentleman's Club" youtube channel has a huge selection of bands with that kind of sound. Hacktivist is currently one of my favs. Mixes rap with the whole Djent thing its really refreshing actually, and isnt how youd expect it to sound at all.

Zanthorus
1st August 2012, 07:09
primarily 8 stringed guitars... The band Meshuggah pretty much pioneered the entire "genre" in the mid to late 90's... Veil of Maya... Check out most of Sumerian Records bands if your interested

This is all wrong. In order, most bands use seven strings as their extended range weapons of choice, the sound also has an antecedent in the music of Sikth and Meshuggah are too far removed to really be considered a part of the genre, Veil of Maya are a deathcore band that's been around for a few years now and Sumerian records is usually associated with technical deathcore bands like Born of Osiris and After the Burial, even though they also have the hardcore band Stray from the Path, and even wusscore champions Asking Alexandria.

And I'll admit to having my interest piqued when I first heard Periphery about a year ago but now I can't really stand to listen to them. They seem to be becoming a bit of a Dream Theater 2.0 to be honest, as in 'that' progressive metal band which seems to appeal to every potential prog fan who's never heard an actual progressive rock/metal album. The fact that Misha admits to not being much of a metal listener and to have little to no knowledge of music theory speaks volumes.

t.crow
1st August 2012, 07:31
This is all wrong. In order, most bands use seven strings as their extended range weapons of choice, the sound also has an antecedent in the music of Sikth and Meshuggah are too far removed to really be considered a part of the genre, Veil of Maya are a deathcore band that's been around for a few years now and Sumerian records is usually associated with technical deathcore bands like Born of Osiris and After the Burial, even though they also have the hardcore band Stray from the Path, and even wusscore champions Asking Alexandria.

And I'll admit to having my interest piqued when I first heard Periphery about a year ago but now I can't really stand to listen to them. They seem to be becoming a bit of a Dream Theater 2.0 to be honest, as in 'that' progressive metal band which seems to appeal to every potential prog fan who's never heard an actual progressive rock/metal album. The fact that Misha admits to not being much of a metal listener and to have little to no knowledge of music theory speaks volumes.
Seven or Eight....more than six strings seems to be the trend. And if we are getting serious here alot of those Sumerian bands are in fact "Djenty" because they use that heavily palm muted sound that Meshuggah even coined the phrase "djent" with. Born of Orsiris' new album "The Discovery" is especially djentish as is After the Burial's Rareform. Had no idea misha didnt really listen to metal, thats pretty nuts he writes some crazy stuff!

Zanthorus
1st August 2012, 07:36
If you think that the stuff that Misha writes is 'crazy', maybe you'd be interested in this guy called J. S. Bach. Check out The Art of the Fugue or the Mass in B Minor, your brains will be hanging out of the front of your skull by the end.

t.crow
1st August 2012, 07:45
hahaha, that was actually pretty cool. Not gonna lie :D

Yuppie Grinder
1st August 2012, 08:31
The Melodic Metalcore that was so popular among the Hot Topic crowd in the past decade had very little to do with the original metalcore. It had more to do with nu-metal in truth.

Spirit
1st August 2012, 10:25
I've never listened to djent bands except for Meshuggah. But I guess it's worth checking out. I'll try with Veil of Maya (a band named same as a Cynic song can't be bad :lol:)

t.crow
1st August 2012, 11:02
I've never listened to djent bands except for Meshuggah. But I guess it's worth checking out. I'll try with Veil of Maya (a band named same as a Cynic song can't be bad :lol:)
"Mark the Lines", "Punisher", and "Namaste" are some pretty sick songs by them if your interested. Cynic is great!

Stand Your Ground
1st August 2012, 13:21
I listen to a couple djent bands, not too crazy about it though. I prefer dubcore: HPjIvpWMorw

Hex_Omega_
2nd August 2012, 09:20
Bit of a newbie wrt Djent. Have heard albums of Meshuggah and Vildhjarta. I tend to listen to Death, death-doom, doom, progressive, folk, melodic and a bit of black metal.

I think Djent has the potential to stay in metal for years to come. I don't see it as a fad such as Nu-metal.