17 year old sexual assault victim could face charges for tweeting names of attackers

[bcbm]

absolutely ridiculous and infuriating (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/savannah-dietrich-twitter-sexual-assault-louisville-174732753.html)

[Permanent Revolutionary]

That's fucked up, but it shows the failing of the modern "justice system" where they care more to not punish perps "too harshly" than to give the victims proper justice.

[Comrades Unite!]

This is fucking ridiculousness, How the hell is that justice?

[Tenka]

Because tweeting the names of sexual attackers isn't incitement to vigilante violence, no sirree.

[#FF0000]

Because tweeting the names of sexual attackers isn't incitement to vigilante violence, no sirree.

it isn't though. unless you think telling someone about the attack/attackers or just talking about it on its own is incitement.

[bcbm]

Because tweeting the names of sexual attackers isn't incitement to vigilante violence, no sirree.

cant do the time dont do the crime

[Tenka]

it isn't though. unless you think telling someone about the attack/attackers or just talking about it on its own is incitement.

I mean people know about it (they took photos ffs!), there was some kind of plea deal (fuck bourgeois justice) but what could she hope to gain by tweeting their names, save for vigilante justice? She obviously felt they needed much harsher punishment than whatever they got, and this compelled her to publicise their names.... Though she sure shouldn't have to spend any time in jail for that. The removal of the tweets was all that is called for.

[#FF0000]

My guess is that it was done out of flat out defiance of this plea bargain that her family had no knowledge of until it was over and done with.

Especially considering that the rapists could talk about it all the wanted, if they wanted.

i mean there's just not enough to say it's incitement to violence. nowhere close.

[cynicles]

From what I understand she tweeted knowing she might get sent to jail for 180 because she felt the plea bargain was bullshit and felt that her rapists should be publicly shamed. The defense attorney for the rapists basically just gave up and so now she doesn't have to go to jail.

[Ravachol]

I'm categorically opposed to all calls for 'harsher punishments, tougher laws, more prisons'. What I'm not opposed to though is the girl or her family kneecapping them.

[Quail]

Tweeting their names means that everyone knows who and what they are. In itself, that isn't an incitement to go out and beat the shit out of them or whatever, but it does warn other people. I think it's a good idea for people who are likely to come into contact with a rapist to be aware of what they have done.

[MrCool]

Isn't U.S sex offender registery free to the public?

[Jimmie Higgins]

That's fucked up, but it shows the failing of the modern "justice system" where they care more to not punish perps "too harshly" than to give the victims proper justice.I don't believe this is the case - not in the US with 2 million in jail and 7 million caught in some stage of the system; not with mandatory-minimums and so on.

The US is an incarceration and punishment factory.

[mew]

I don't believe this is the case - not in the US with 2 million in jail and 7 million caught in some stage of the system; not with mandatory-minimums and so on.

The US is an incarceration and punishment factory.

when it comes to sexual assault and other forms of violence against women, this does not apply.

[Luc]

edit: ah Quail beat me to it nvm

[individualist]

I'm categorically opposed to all calls for 'harsher punishments, tougher laws, more prisons'. What I'm not opposed to though is the girl or her family kneecapping them.

So you do support barbaric punishments,as long as t is'nt by the state?:rolleyes:

[individualist]

Tweeting their names means that everyone knows who and what they are. In itself, that isn't an incitement to go out and beat the shit out of them or whatever, but it does warn other people. I think it's a good idea for people who are likely to come into contact with a rapist to be aware of what they have done.

Why? That just makes their reintegration into society more difficult.

[Quail]

Why? That just makes their reintegration into society more difficult.
But it means that people who come across them when they've only recently committed the offence and therefore most likely haven't been reformed know that their idea of consent is not the same as everyone else's. If I happened to meet someone at a party, for example, who was a known rapist and people didn't tell me despite knowing what they'd done, I'd feel kind of betrayed and as though I'd been put at risk.

I told my friends about my sexual assault, and some people didn't believe me until he raped another girl in our friendship group. When you've suffered so much you don't want other people to have to suffer the same. If people are aware of what someone is, they may think twice about allowing themselves to get close to them.

[cynicles]

I think that rapists should have their name posted in the townsquare for all to see, even if their teenagers. You cross that line and people around you have the right to know that you have a history of sexual assault.

[individualist]

I think that rapists should have their name posted in the townsquare for all to see, even if their teenagers. You cross that line and people around you have the right to know that you have a history of sexual assault.

That is esentially condemning someone for life, which would make it almost impossible to live a normal life, which would just be an incentive for further crime.

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

Because tweeting the names of sexual attackers isn't incitement to vigilante violence, no sirree.
The names of rapists are published all the time. Why shouldn't a victim be able to publicly name her attackers?

[Yuppie Grinder]

That girl is pretty cool tbh. At my high-school whenever a girl gets raped after she passes out at a party nothing ever happens to the rapists.

[#FF0000]

That girl is pretty cool tbh. At my high-school whenever a girl gets raped after she passes out at a party nothing ever happens to the rapists.

it's pretty fucked up that we live in a world where people can say things like this because this kind of thing happens so often.

Goddamn, man.

[Le Libérer]

That is esentially condemning someone for life, which would make it almost impossible to live a normal life, which would just be an incentive for further crime.

Oh much like it is for the rape victim? Pity for the man if he gets what he gives out eh?

[Leftsolidarity]

Isn't U.S sex offender registery free to the public?

IIRC not for these kids as part of their plea deal.

[individualist]

Oh much like it is for the rape victim? Pity for the man if he gets what he gives out eh?

Although rape leaves scars for life it doesn't prevent living a normal life for the rest of your life.

[Leftsolidarity]

Although rape leaves scars for life it doesn't prevent living a normal life for the rest of your life.

Shut the fuck up

[Quail]

Although rape leaves scars for life it doesn't prevent living a normal life for the rest of your life.


Shut the fuck up

I don't know if I should really have to elaborate on what Leftsolidarity said, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you're not trolling, just very ignorant.

Those scars for life do prevent people from doing a lot of normal things. Survivors of rape might find some everyday situations are likely to trigger flashbacks. They might not be able to have a normal sex life or healthy relationships with other people. I don't have time to search for statistics, but survivors of rape are significantly more likely to suffer from mental health conditions such as PTSD, anxiety, depression, substance abuse and eating disorders, all of which impair a person's ability to live a normal life.

Individualist - this isn't the first time you've said something that trivialises rape and the impact it has on people, so consider this a verbal warning.

[Le Libérer]

Although rape leaves scars for life it doesn't prevent living a normal life for the rest of your life.

I do not know whether to infract you or ban you for trivializing rape.

[helot]

I fail to see the problem of a woman trying to shame her attackers. There's many crimes that can be understood and sympathy offered to the perpetrator(s) but rape isn't one of them.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Wow, individualist showing remarkable lack of intelliegence, sensitivity, empathy and logic.
Good for her, people who rape and abuse without remorse need to suffer some consequences, it's one of the vilest things anyone can do to another human being and it is dismissed or trvilialised far too often.