The Friendly Enemy

[Anti-Democrat]

Perhaps I reside within the wrong place however I'll give my story...

I am not a Communist/Maoist/Leninist/Trotskyite/Socialist/Anarchist/Marxist

I hold negative opinions on unions, the Occupy Movement, and SYRIZA in Greece for example.

However, I am no fan of the right as well, and hold a strong distaste for Religion.

Although it is difficult to define beliefs in a Ideology, I'd call myself an Anti-Democratic Authoritarian.

I look forward to discussing issues with you all as I'm sure to recieve some colorful language in retaliation


In total: I am a friendly enemy.

[Lynx]

What are you in favor of?

[The Jay]

I second that question. What is it that you support then? Telling us that you're an anti-democratic authoritarian is pretty redundant by the way.

[Art Vandelay]

Perhaps expound on your views some more?

[Ostrinski]

The worst enemy is a friendly enemy

[Revolutionair]

If you don't support the workers' movement or a possible future classless and stateless society or do anything that decreases the power of the ruling class or want to be lead by the working class in the, at the moment, unlikely event of a revolution or if you are working class, organize with your fellow workers, I am afraid you're not a friend.

Welcome to the site anyway. :)

[Anti-Democrat]

I'm pragmatic, I believe in a doctrine of power.

To me humans are most happy when they have both power and control over their lives, therefore they should strive to empower themselves as much as humanly possible, (Let a man become his own dictator)

As far as actual beliefs though, I have a hatred of Democracy, especially representative Democracy, social issues don't concern me (Gay marriage, Abortion, etc...) because they don't affect me in ways except through the trickle down economic effects.

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.


I can elaborate more on specific issues

[campesino]

Why do you believe in what you believe?

[The Jay]

How can "every man be his own dictator" if you support a monarch? That doesn't exactly make sense. Also how can you support monarchy in general? Do you believe that some genetic lines are "born to rule"?

[Lenina Rosenweg]

I'm pragmatic, I believe in a doctrine of power.

To me humans are most happy when they have both power and control over their lives, therefore they should strive to empower themselves as much as humanly possible, (Let a man become his own dictator)

As far as actual beliefs though, I have a hatred of Democracy, especially representative Democracy, social issues don't concern me (Gay marriage, Abortion, etc...) because they don't affect me in ways except through the trickle down economic effects.

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.


I can elaborate more on specific issues

Socialists favor a society based on human needs, not based on the rule of capital. That is the way people can have real control over their lives.

Monarchy? This hasn't worked out very well. Charles I, Louis XVI, Nicholas II, etc.
Getting money out of politics? As long as capitalism exists they'll be money in politics.

Secular society? No argument there.One has to understand the material basis of religion though.

Manatory military service? In a socialist society where people have control over their lives, maybe. Under the current system working class kids will be drafted and used as cannon fodder for imperialist wars which they had voice in choosing and no material interest in the outcome.

Hope this helps!

[Anti-Democrat]

How can "every man be his own dictator" if you support a monarch? That doesn't exactly make sense. Also how can you support monarchy in general? Do you believe that some genetic lines are "born to rule"?

I believe Monarchy is perhaps the most stable and efficent form of government, a Monarch as Fredrick the Great once said is "The Servant of The State"

If the Social Contract that exists between the governed and the governor is completely broken then the governed have a right to Revolution.

As far as "Born to Rule" I disagree, I'm more in favor of an elective/selective monarchy.

Also as far as the Every man is his own dictator part, I only meant that the best political system for a man/woman is one that allows him the opportunity to rise highest and achieve most. Actual governmental systems are subjective

[Brosa Luxemburg]

As I understand some Bordigists may agree with your views.

Well, from the sounds of what I have read this far, I sure don't. I am not in favor of monarchy, all Bordigists are Marxists (which the user claimed they are not), and the user seems to be against democracy for reasons us Bordigists wouldn't criticize democracy.

This is a quote from the Bordigist user group I made.


Bordiga thought that we shouldn't uphold democracy as some sort of principle but as a means to an end. Communism has nothing to do with "democracy" but has everything to do with ending the anarchy of capitalist production, the abolition of private property, etc. etc.

Bordiga also criticized democracy for advocating "the rule of all people". If we have "the rule of all people" then, consequently, we have "the rule of all classes" which is something that any communist would oppose and why terms like "proletariat democracy" are contradictory. If we take democracy to mean "the rule of the majority" then all democrats should stand "on our class side" since the proletariat are a majority of the population.

Some might say that "well, if the proletariat make up a majority of the population, then why not allow the bourgeoisie to participate in decision making, because there votes won't count anyway?" Well, this begs the question of, if there votes won't matter, then why even bother allowing them in the decision making process? Out of principle? That is stupid, and I mentioned that before. Bordiga claims that the proletariat dictatorship should be efficient and honest. It should not pretend to be a "state for the people" as the bourgeois dictatorship does now. The bourgeois dictatorship now takes our votes, but we know that our vote means nothing. The proletariat dictatorship should be honest with what the state is (an organ of class rule) and who it works for (the proletariat only).

[Brosa Luxemburg]

Of course, the user does need to expand on his views...

[roy]

Perhaps I reside within the wrong place

if that's supposed to be a fancy way of saying, "perhaps i've come to the wrong place": yep.

[Book O'Dead]

I'm pragmatic, I believe in a doctrine of power.

To me humans are most happy when they have both power and control over their lives, therefore they should strive to empower themselves as much as humanly possible, (Let a man become his own dictator)

As far as actual beliefs though, I have a hatred of Democracy, especially representative Democracy, social issues don't concern me (Gay marriage, Abortion, etc...) because they don't affect me in ways except through the trickle down economic effects.

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.


I can elaborate more on specific issues

Those are reactionary preferences, wouldn't you agree?

[eric922]

Those are reactionary preferences, wouldn't you agree?

I wouldn't say getting money out of politics or a secular society are reactionary. I think a secular society is something we should strive for, but getting money out of politics is pretty much impossible within capitalism.

[campesino]

if that's supposed to be a fancy way of saying, "perhaps i've come to the wrong place": yep.

perhaps Anti-Democrat should join rev-feud, revolutionary feudalist.:laugh:

[MarxSchmarx]

Actual governmental systems are subjective

"subjective" as opposed to "objective" ... as in Objectivism?

Yes or no: do you or do you not "support the workers' movement or a possible future classless and stateless society" as revolutionair asks.

[ВАЛТЕР]

To me humans are most happy when they have both power and control over their lives, therefore they should strive to empower themselves as much as humanly possible, (Let a man become his own dictator)

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.



This doesn't go together...at all.

Also, I don't like you.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Hmm..some decidedly reactionary ideas and beliefs mixed with a few safe ones (secular society).
Not sure what you hope to acheive by being here but welcome none-the-less :) (hope this is not yet another troll / someone trying to convert lefties)

Edit: By 'safe' I mean inoffensive

[#FF0000]

oh are you one of those nerds who are all "ANTI-ENLIGHTENMENT" and stuff

[Rafiq]

He watches too much GoT, that's all.

You're a rightist, you piss, whether you'd like to admit it or not has nothing to do with that.

[citizen of industry]

Why are you here? "Friendly" is easy on an internet forum. It is not easy when you defend corporations (throw me out on the street so I can't feed my kids because economics are not condusive to capitalism). Or when you defend government (violate freedom of speech or freedom of assembly when it threatens capitalism, e.g; putting bullets into me and my children when we peacefully protest, or in the "democracies" being nice by spraying mace in my face, netting me, then throwing me in prison.)

You advocate monarchy? Seriously? What is your nationality? You are advocating some return to a past based on an entirely different, agricultural, economy?

There are no "friendly" enemies. You are an enemy, a rightist, and a piss.

[rylasasin]

There are no "friendly" enemies. You are an enemy, a rightist, and a piss.

Bart Anti Democrat, get out! I'm You're piss.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

*cough* TROLL *cough*

[Tim Cornelis]

You sound like a pretentious contrarian who just enjoys standing out from the crowd to be honest.

[Krano]

Perhaps I reside within the wrong place however I'll give my story...

I am not a Communist/Maoist/Leninist/Trotskyite/Socialist/Anarchist/Marxist

I hold negative opinions on unions, the Occupy Movement, and SYRIZA in Greece for example.

However, I am no fan of the right as well, and hold a strong distaste for Religion.

Although it is difficult to define beliefs in a Ideology, I'd call myself an Anti-Democratic Authoritarian.
I look forward to discussing issues with you all as I'm sure to recieve some colorful language in retaliation


In total: I am a friendly enemy.
You sound like a Stalinist.

[Yuppie Grinder]

tbh, OP, you sound like a naive kid whose politics have nothing to do with the world around them
if only you were the right kind of naive/crazy you'd fit in nicely here

[homegrown terror]

I'm pragmatic, I believe in a doctrine of power.

To me humans are most happy when they have both power and control over their lives, therefore they should strive to empower themselves as much as humanly possible, (Let a man become his own dictator)

As far as actual beliefs though, I have a hatred of Democracy, especially representative Democracy, social issues don't concern me (Gay marriage, Abortion, etc...) because they don't affect me in ways except through the trickle down economic effects.

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.


I can elaborate more on specific issues

sounds like politicised LaVeyanism, and pretty much opposes the rest of your post. i've got a feeling that navigating the ideological portion of your brain would be QUITE the maze.

[Lynx]

Btw, welcome to RevLeft :laugh:

[Ocean Seal]

A wide selection of things i'm in favor of: Monarchy, Getting Money out of Politics, Secular Society, Mandatory Military Service to name a few.

uhh, that awkward moment when you establish a nepotist system where the leaders have a ton of money while hating money in politics.

[Yazman]

Moderator action:

Holy shit. I don't care whether he's right-wing or not. Next time I see any of you blatantly insulting another user in Introductions, I'm going to lay the smackdown and give out infractions.

This thread is getting closed.