View Full Version : Sheriff Arpaio Claims Obama Birth Certificate Fake
DasFapital
18th July 2012, 22:11
That's just how white folks will do ya!
PHOENIX (AP) — Investigators for an Arizona sheriff's volunteer posse say President Barack Obama's birth certificate is definitely fraudulent.
Members of Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's posse said in March that there was probable cause that Obama's long-form birth certificate released by the White House in April 2011 was a computer-generated forgery.
Now, Arpaio says investigators are positive it's fraudulent.
So-called "birthers" maintain Obama is ineligible to be president because, they contend, he was born in Kenya. However, Hawaii officials have repeatedly verified Obama's citizenship, and courts have rebuffed lawsuits over the issue.
Mike Zullo, the Arizona posse's chief investigator, said numeric codes on parts of the long-form birth certificate indicate those parts weren't filled out, yet those sections asking for the race of Obama's father and his field of work or study were completed.
Zullo said investigators previously didn't know the meaning of the codes but they were explained by a 95-year-old former state worker who signed the president's birth certificate. Zullo said a writer who published a book about Obama's birth certificate and was aiding investigators let them listen to an interview he conducted with the former state worker.
The Arizona Democratic Party said in a statement that Arpaio's investigation is intended to draw attention away from problems within his own agency, such as hundreds of sex-crime cases that the sheriff's office failed to adequately investigate over a three-year period.
A civil trial is set to begin Thursday in a lawsuit that accuses Arpaio's office of racially profiling Latinos. The suit filed by a handful of Latinos will serve as a precursor to the U.S. Justice Department's lawsuit that alleges a broader range of civil rights violations against Arpaio's office.
Obama released a copy of his long-form birth certificate in an attempt to quell citizenship questions. His campaign declined to comment on Arpaio's allegations.
But Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said his state's vital records are some of the best-managed and have "some of the strongest restrictions on access to prevent identity theft and fraud."
"President Obama was born in Honolulu, and his birth certificate is valid," Wisch said in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."
Book O'Dead
18th July 2012, 22:14
Why dredge this up here and now?
After all, thinking people understand the falsity of the claim and only crackpots believe it and people of bad faith repeat it.
MEGAMANTROTSKY
18th July 2012, 22:16
Good grief. This again? I wonder how fast Donald Trump will jump on this.
Martin Blank
18th July 2012, 22:18
Don't these assholes have a cross to burn?
WanderingCactus
18th July 2012, 22:23
Gee, people associated with Joe Arpaio are racist? Golly gosh, what a surprise.
Le Socialiste
18th July 2012, 22:28
Don't these assholes have a cross to burn?
Multitasking has never been their strong suit. Accuse the President of being born outside the country, then have a cross burning. Doing both at the same time would simply confuse and distract them.
ВАЛТЕР
18th July 2012, 22:32
Oh no! They are on to our plot to insert a black, Kenyan, Muslim, communist into the white house in order to destroy freedom!
*knocks over chair*
SCATTER!
* scampering footsteps*
DrZaiu5
18th July 2012, 22:37
This birther rubbish is really getting pretty old at this point.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
18th July 2012, 22:45
You wonder why this is still brought up. He's done a fantastic job on behalf of the bourgeoisie.
Book O'Dead
18th July 2012, 23:14
You wonder why this is still brought up. He's done a fantastic job on behalf of the bourgeoisie.
You must not be paying attention to the political contest presently underway in the U.S.
The reason that low-life Arizona cop is rehashing old slanders against Obama is because Mitt Romney has been placed in a corner with his lie about having left Bain in 1999 and because he refuses to release his tax returns for the period in question.
It's a weak and discredited counter-attack.
Martin Blank
19th July 2012, 02:24
Oh no! They are on to our plot to insert a black, Kenyan, Muslim, communist into the white house in order to destroy freedom!
*knocks over chair*
SCATTER!
* scampering footsteps*
Quick! To the Muslamic Ray Gun!
Misanthrope
19th July 2012, 02:27
how dare he disgrace Our Dear Leader
Sendo
19th July 2012, 02:38
You wonder why this is still brought up. He's done a fantastic job on behalf of the bourgeoisie.
Because it's important to constantly move the goal posts. To make sure he stays the course call him a communist whenever he veers a millimetre left of Bush or Romney or McCain. This keeps the centre moving rightward and Obama must constantly move right to outflank it.
Geiseric
19th July 2012, 07:35
Honestly, who calls their goons a "posse"? Is this the 1800s? I hope Arpaio gets shot with the guns that Holder sold to the mexican gangs, maybe it'll re-spark my hope for some kind of Karma to exist for nazi trash like him. I wonder how many children he's deported, and how many crimes done to Immigrants he's responsible for?
cynicles
19th July 2012, 08:32
Oh no! They are on to our plot to insert a black, Kenyan, Muslim, communist into the white house in order to destroy freedom!
*knocks over chair*
SCATTER!
* scampering footsteps*
You forgot atheist and the new rumour about him being gay!
I just hope there's a special gulag in hell for people like Arpaio.
bcbm
19th July 2012, 08:42
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
19th July 2012, 11:04
Yaaaaaaaawn..so fucking bored of this stupid idea / theory / conspiracy / shit
Like a president of the US would ever be inaugurated without knowing that we was def a citizen of the country he is going to be running...just pathetic.
Lev Bronsteinovich
19th July 2012, 13:11
You wonder why this is still brought up. He's done a fantastic job on behalf of the bourgeoisie.
The hatred and fear of Obama, loyal warrior for the bourgeoisie, is pretty bizarre. I mean, he's probably a little to the right of Ronald Regan. I think it is primarily due to racism. The man is black, after all. I have in-laws who live in the South -- white, Republican. They are well educated and successful. And they don't think of themselves as being racist. But when they start talking about Obama, well, they become a little unhinged. My genteel mother-in-law was saying, "I hate him, I wish he would die." She would never have said this about a white Democrat, I don't think. Of course, to Marxists, all of this ado is completely idiotic. Welcome to 21st century imperialist decadence.
Red Commissar
19th July 2012, 17:17
Does Arapio have a pending case or something he's trying to deflect attention away from?
Never understood how people are still fascinated with this guy (in the sense that they support him). Then again I guess Arapio gives a good lesson as to why this political system is so shitty- be in a district sufficiently conservative and make noise about how you're tough on crime and "illegals", and you're guaranteed to get a cadre of idiots supporting you, from within and outside the state (AMERICA'S SHERIFF!).
Then this whole birther bullshit. I mean even a few weeks ago it came back up, and it keeps coming back up. It would really be interesting having to explain this in hindsight to future generations about why this was such an "issue" in the first place, much less how it kept going on for years after the 2008 cycle.
I mean seriously, the way I see it explained is like some manchurian candidate bullshit
-A Legion of Doom-like body between the anti-American forces in the Cold War, consisting of the Soviet Union, turrorists, and China scheme in secret to destroy the United States. Probably under Berkley for all I know.
-They carefully plot to have a foreign national born in an unholy union to seize control of the United States over 45 years after his birth and run it to the ground. Yep.
-America falls!
-Zombie Soviet Union wins!
And we kill grandma for bonus points.
Lynx
19th July 2012, 17:50
What business does some sheriff in Arizona have in investigating this?
Who do they think they are, Scotland Yard?
Red Commissar
19th July 2012, 19:10
What business does some sheriff in Arizona have in investigating this?
Who do they think they are, Scotland Yard?
He's America's sheriff, this is well within his jurisdiction! We must forge another fake birth certificate to fool him, our plans for killing liberty and freedom can't be stopped!
DasFapital
20th July 2012, 00:13
What business does some sheriff in Arizona have in investigating this?
Who do they think they are, Scotland Yard?
In America, and Arizona especially, any non white politician who isn't Herman Cain or Bobby Jindal is immediately suspected of being a Marxist.
Per Levy
20th July 2012, 00:40
so why is this a topic on here? i mean i'd get why this would be a topic for pro-obama liberals but what is this supposed to mean to a "revolutionary" leftists forum?
DasFapital
20th July 2012, 00:53
so why is this a topic on here? i mean i'd get why this would be a topic for pro-obama liberals but what is this supposed to mean to a "revolutionary" leftists forum?
It shows how pathetically far to the right American politics have shifted, where someone as pro-capitalist as Obama can simply be labeled a socialist and an illegal immigrant based on the color of his skin.
Clifford C Clavin
22nd July 2012, 13:02
a millimetre left of Bush or Romney or McCain
No worries there. He's stayed a couple of meters to the right since he first stepped into office.
The scary part is that polls show that somewhere around 30% of Americans actually believe this stuff.
Scarier still is that it actually matters where he was born, since there is no question that he is an American citizen!
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