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Hexen
18th July 2012, 18:35
http://www.feminism.org/front.php

Also I've been debating with idiots on Facepunch:

http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1198795

Especially this starting here:

http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1198795&p=36824909&viewfull=1#post36824909

and here:

http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1198795&p=36826339&posted=1#post36826339

Any response to most of these fools?

Althusser
18th July 2012, 18:40
Oh god... They put Gabe Newell's picture on the site. All of their sins are absolved.

bcbm
18th July 2012, 18:59
Also I've been debating with idiots on Facepunch

seems like a monumental waste of time


Any response to most of these fools?

'go play in traffic'

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
18th July 2012, 19:02
It's 4chan. That should be enough to end any talk of this.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
18th July 2012, 19:07
I must say I laughed a little when I saw Gabe. But I rather see them go back to hacking nazis.

Krano
18th July 2012, 19:17
I must say I laughed a little when I saw Gabe. But I rather see them go back to hacking nazis.
I laughed little too because of Gabe, i wonder if were going to get purged now for being sexist.

MrCool
18th July 2012, 19:30
Dammit, Gabe. Stop h4x0r and release EP3.

individualist
18th July 2012, 23:53
Pwned

Kotze
19th July 2012, 17:31
Hexen, do you think anybody there got a more positive attitude towards feminism or marxism after reading your posts? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question)

I deny that nerds/gamers/trolls on sites like 4chan are particularly racist or sexist, or even as bad as average in that regard. Just think for a minute how such attitudes usually correlate with other positions, like about drug decriminalization, and age. They offend in order to offend, so they come up with what they themselves find offensive, so...

Shallow judgement by ignorant OFFENDED!!1 outsiders is what shapes the group troll identity as something for intellectually superior people. Attempts to justify such judgement as somehow SCIENTIFICALLY-MARXISTICALLY OFFENDED!!1 is pathetic and even less plausible than claiming to measure racism exactly by looking at n-word frequency.

No nerd wants to be lectured about how oppressive the White Nerd Patriarchal Conspiracy is, because (like with proletariat and bourgeoisie) the role of the nerds can only be properly grasped in the context of its antagonistic relation to, and domination by, the jockocracy, and non-jock being is part of nerd identity and given how sexist the primitive jock culture (maybe we should call it pre-culture) is, calling nerds sexist is almost like calling them jocks, hence the irritated reaction.

As for the hack: I am not easily offended, but the bit with comparing feminists to bronies was over the line >:[

Invader Zim
23rd July 2012, 09:10
They offend in order to offend, so they come up with what they themselves find offensive, so...

Shallow judgement by ignorant OFFENDED!!1 outsiders is what shapes the group troll identity as something for intellectually superior people.

Which is absolutely accurate. Which leads wonder about the following:

"but the bit with comparing feminists to bronies was over the line"

Though I have to confess, I have no idea what a 'bronie' is.

homegrown terror
23rd July 2012, 09:41
Which is absolutely accurate. Which leads wonder about the following:

"but the bit with comparing feminists to bronies was over the line"

Though I have to confess, I have no idea what a 'bronie' is.

teenage and young adult male fans of "my little pony." and yes it's just as pathetic as it sounds.

Comrade Samuel
23rd July 2012, 09:53
teenage and young adult male fans of "my little pony." and yes it's just as pathetic as it sounds.

2012 is the most confusing year to live in...

Also the website appears to be fine now at least but who is this Gabe Newell character?

Per Levy
23rd July 2012, 10:05
teenage and young adult male fans of "my little pony." and yes it's just as pathetic as it sounds.

well bronies are fans of the newest instalation of my little pony: friendship is magic. while i would never call myself a bronie i do like the show, its a really good cartoon and im looking forward to season 3. but tell me what exactly is pathetic about likeing a good cartoon?

mew
23rd July 2012, 10:54
most of this thread blows

GPDP
23rd July 2012, 11:03
This is not really a cause for alarm. 4chan has always had a history of trolling certain targets just for shits. It just so happens the flavor of the month as of late has been feminists. A quick look at any of the boards (particularly /r9k/ and, for some fucking reason, /v/) will reveal this.

Though to be honest, I'm getting kinda tired of the feminist bashing. It's not just that it's bad or reactionary, but it's honestly gotten tired and boring to see the same old HURR FEMINAZIS threads popping up day in and day out. Just goes to show you how lonely the 4chan demographic tends to be, I guess.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
26th July 2012, 05:11
4chan. A bunch of sad, pathetic child-men.

MarxSchmarx
26th July 2012, 05:37
2012 is the most confusing year to live in...

Also the website appears to be fine now at least but who is this Gabe Newell character?
I had to look that up to apparently he's the guy who was part of microsoft windows for a long time and has been involved in the gaming site valve and steam.

#FF0000
26th July 2012, 05:47
(particularly /r9k/ and, for some fucking reason, /v/)

Though to be honest, I'm getting kinda tired of the feminist bashing. It's not just that it's bad or reactionary, but it's honestly gotten tired and boring to see the same old HURR FEMINAZIS threads popping up day in and day out. Just goes to show you how lonely the 4chan demographic tends to be, I guess.

i just want to talk about videogames. it spilled over into /vg/ for awhile too.

god.

on the plus side i started reading books and going outside again so the dumb neckbeard 'i haet wimun' circle-jerk has been a net gain and actually improved my life

Red Commissar
28th July 2012, 10:09
I don't understand why this site of all things was hacked? Was it just wide open to hacking or something? Some people are saying they didn't change their default login so it was admin/admin for it. Still, not sure what's going on there. Guess it was for the lulz. I suppose though it could've been worse like hacking and leaking the personal information of those involved with the site or using it to throw out viruses, instead it seems to be vandalism.

I guess this could bring up a discussion about mainstream online communities being male dominated and seeing "feminism" as a carticture. With 4chan though you never know, but I've always gotten the vibe that they're not a consistent bunch when it comes to their views, which is to be expected considering they aren't a "political" group to begin with. I never really cared much for that site though... imageboards in general but that's a different story.

As for your posts on FP Hexen, I say don't bother. Frankly I think we get spoiled on here with our political discussions to the point that we forget we can't discuss it the same way with people outside our circles. Looking at your posts there, while it all makes sense to me, but to someone else it might just seem like "Marxism is infallible". You got to talk to other people differently, rather than just being blunt about it. Note that the topic has gone horribly offtopic from the hacking to talking points about Marxism.

I used to be very active in places like FP and other forums before I became more interested in Marxism. I can't use those places anymore like I used to, but when I do I remind myself that I need to reason and debate differently than just coming off as dogmatic. Much in the same way I can't go out to a random person on the street and talk to them about political issues in the way I talk about it here.