Log in

View Full Version : Protest Warriors Censor, edit and delete


RockNRev
16th December 2003, 17:15
Hi there!

I'm Rev and I've been over to the protestwarrior.com site doing battle with those idiots.

I'm here because I thought you could use some ammo about them.

They edit, delete and censor posts on their site to suit their agenda and I can prove it.

Anyone interested in watching this?

I slammed them with the fact that they were committing illegal acts, much like ALF or ELF to suit their agenda. They did NOT have permits to demonstrate in the same area that the anti-war people had permits to demonstrate. They say FUCK the law. The law is WRONG!.

They also sell t-shirts with copyrighted images on them. Check out the STAR WARS shirt in their t-shirt section. (They KNOW it's illegal too...Even say so in the t-shirt description, but they don't care.)
http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/tshirts/star_wars.jpg
The caption on this shirt offer reads: ""Star Wars" - Available until Lucasfilm finds out. (And George, we paid to sit through Attack of the Clones, you owe us.)"

Don't worry though...I reported them to LUCASFILMS. :lol:

Basically, what I'm here to offer you for ammo against these losers is the FACT that they commit illegal activities as well as edit, censor and delete posts and comments that they deem "threatening" to their illegal agenda.

They have deleted well over 7 full pages of my posts on their EAGLE STRIKE thread because I exposed them as criminals who commit illegal acts to push their agenda. I came into the thread at page 7 and got 7 additional pages of arguments and then they DELETED everything from page 7 on. I posted again on the same thread and they deleted it immediately. They don't BAN me...they just edit, censor and delete me. Here's the EAGLE STRIKE thread:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewt...opic.php?t=8897 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8897)

Then they turned around and strung all of mY comments together without any of their hateful righty comments in between and created a special post dedicated to me titled: Anatomy of an Idiot. You should go read it. It was a STICKY until they realized that I was HAPPY to have a sicky right up top like that. Now it's not a sticky anymore.
Here's THAT post that they edited together:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewt...opic.php?t=8942 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8942)
I edited together my own version as well...Scroll down in that thread a little and see the replies to me that were edited out by the PROTEST WARRIORS.

Also, please note that I am a Former 1st Force Recon Marine and Gulf War Veteran. Note the tone and total lack of respect...no even worst...total DISRESPECT they have shown this veteran just because I pointed out their illegal activity. Just because they don't agree with my point of view. TOTAL personal attacks with such winning lines as,

the after effects of the war has no bearing of the reasons we entered it...but the after effects of someone hacking into your ocmputer and finding out who you really are and exposing you for who you really are WOULD make up for this cowardly insulting that you resort to on a message board. its happened before
And here's another great one:

just kill yourself now
Wait, wait...It gets better!

and for the record; fuk you and everything you love. i sh.t on your family and all that you hold dear.

They also started a post called: "RockNRev-Should we ban him? I think so."
They created a poll to see if I should be banned and the results were 60/40 that I should NOT be banned.
http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewt...opic.php?t=8897 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8897)

This is how the PROTEST WARRIORS debate. I have a plan to expose them and provide you with some KILLER ammo against them. I know they come here and read your site and will see this, but they can't stop my plan. Anyone want to see this happen? Make sure to have an account ready on their forum and let me know when you are ready.

Peace,
Rev
Ortega
16th December 2003, 17:21
Interesting, very interesting. Thanks Rev :ph34r:

Should this be in OI?
RockNRev
16th December 2003, 17:30
I'm happy to put it WHEREVER you want me to. Say the word.
Ortega
16th December 2003, 18:30
I would say it belonged in CC (which you probably don't know about Rev - click here (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=13&t=17146) to read about it), but RockNRev is obviously not in it... Having it here in OI is probably the only option, and we can just hope that not too many protestwarriors read it...
CASTRO_SUCKS
16th December 2003, 19:02
Originally posted by RockNRev+Dec 16 2003, 06:15 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RockNRev @ Dec 16 2003, 06:15 PM) I&#39;m Rev and I&#39;ve been over to the protestwarrior.com site doing battle with those idiots.[/b]
Wow...you must be proud&#33; Have a rough day at school?


Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 06:15 PM
They edit, delete and censor posts on their site to suit their agenda and I can prove it.
Bahahaha....its no different here, slick&#33;


[email protected] 16 2003, 06:15 PM
...Peace,
WOW..if THATS not the most incorrectly used word here...I don&#39;t know WHAT is&#33; Way to cheapen the meaning of a word&#33;
Invader Zim
16th December 2003, 20:07
Originally posted by CASTRO_SUCKS+Dec 16 2003, 08:02 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CASTRO_SUCKS @ Dec 16 2003, 08:02 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 06:15 PM
I&#39;m Rev and I&#39;ve been over to the protestwarrior.com site doing battle with those idiots.
Wow...you must be proud&#33; Have a rough day at school?


Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 06:15 PM
They edit, delete and censor posts on their site to suit their agenda and I can prove it.
Bahahaha....its no different here, slick&#33;


[email protected] 16 2003, 06:15 PM
...Peace,
WOW..if THATS not the most incorrectly used word here...I don&#39;t know WHAT is&#33; Way to cheapen the meaning of a word&#33; [/b]
ShudderAtTheThought, LOL your a hypocrit as well as an idiot. You sit at PW.com and attack us for our intolerance of decentor&#39;s and then whine when your own sites intolerance is unmasked.

The protest warrior: -

http://questmodels.com/americas_ppp/images/2000cry.jpg
Ortega
16th December 2003, 22:34
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 04:07 PM
The protest warrior: -

http://questmodels.com/americas_ppp/images/2000cry.jpg
:D

Looks just like a few radical rightists I know...

And Castro_Sucks, why are you still here?? You&#39;ve made your argument, now find some facts to back it up or there&#39;s no point to continuing to post the same shallow arguments.
By the way... I was Comrade_Zapata, the one who couldn&#39;t stop defending you. Your pointless, untrue (for the most part) arguments are beginning to annoy even me.

And thats a hard thing to do...
Pete
16th December 2003, 22:47
QUOTE (RockNRev @ Dec 16 2003, 06:15 PM)
They edit, delete and censor posts on their site to suit their agenda and I can prove it.

Bahahaha....its no different here, slick&#33;

Thats right.. we edit and delete your posts all the time...

-Pete
CASTRO_SUCKS
16th December 2003, 23:08
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 11:34 PM
And Castro_Sucks, why are you still here?? You&#39;ve made your argument, now find some facts to back it up or there&#39;s no point to continuing to post the same shallow arguments.
By the way... I was Comrade_Zapata, the one who couldn&#39;t stop defending you. Your pointless, untrue (for the most part) arguments are beginning to annoy even me.


Wow....you really ARE weakminded turncoat like your comrades portrayed you before&#33; You even had to change your name&#33; Its a shame I was so WRONG about you&#33; But I guess a rat will do ANYTHING to stay afloat in this place huh?

Besdies, wasn&#39;t it YOU that spearheaded an initiative NOT to have me banned? Wasn&#39;t it YOU that wanted me to stick around and debate things? What the hell happened to you man? Did the little sensor implanted in your brain start going off? Have they "gotten you" too?
CASTRO_SUCKS
16th December 2003, 23:10
Originally posted by [email protected] 16 2003, 09:07 PM
You sit at PW.com and attack us for our intolerance of decentor&#39;s and then whine when your own sites intolerance is unmasked.

I sit at PW and bash you guys? REALLY? I DO? Um....please provide PROOF&#33;

PS-I thought THIS was my site...duh&#33;
Ortega
17th December 2003, 00:25
Originally posted by CASTRO_SUCKS+Dec 16 2003, 07:08 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CASTRO_SUCKS @ Dec 16 2003, 07:08 PM)
[email protected] 16 2003, 11:34 PM
And Castro_Sucks, why are you still here?? You&#39;ve made your argument, now find some facts to back it up or there&#39;s no point to continuing to post the same shallow arguments.
By the way... I was Comrade_Zapata, the one who couldn&#39;t stop defending you. Your pointless, untrue (for the most part) arguments are beginning to annoy even me.


Wow....you really ARE weakminded turncoat like your comrades portrayed you before&#33; You even had to change your name&#33; Its a shame I was so WRONG about you&#33; But I guess a rat will do ANYTHING to stay afloat in this place huh?

Besdies, wasn&#39;t it YOU that spearheaded an initiative NOT to have me banned? Wasn&#39;t it YOU that wanted me to stick around and debate things? What the hell happened to you man? Did the little sensor implanted in your brain start going off? Have they "gotten you" too? [/b]
I never turned sides - I was just trying to debate for your free speech. I was indeed a fairweather supporter and intended to go back to my old views once you seemed safe on Che-Lives. Even if I was against you, I wanted you to have a chance at least.
But now you&#39;ve had your chance, and I can&#39;t say you&#39;ve used it too well. You&#39;ve had some good points and started good arguments, but again, you need facts.
Your huge amounts of replies to arguments is bordering on spamming now too...

I&#39;m no turncoat, I just know a worm when I see one.
CASTRO_SUCKS
17th December 2003, 00:28
Originally posted by Ortega+Dec 17 2003, 01:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ortega @ Dec 17 2003, 01:25 AM) I never turned sides - I was just trying to debate for your free speech. I was indeed a fairweather supporter and intended to go back to my old views once you seemed safe on Che-Lives..[/b]
Good logic there&#33; Lets see "I was selling out my own beliefs to help another out. Then planned to go back to my side when I felt I had helped enough"&#33; Nice name change too.


[email protected] 17 2003, 01:25 AM
I&#39;m no turncoat, I just know a worm when I see one.
Then it must be pretty tough to look in the mirror day after day huh?
Ortega
17th December 2003, 00:43
Originally posted by CASTRO_SUCKS+Dec 16 2003, 08:28 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (CASTRO_SUCKS @ Dec 16 2003, 08:28 PM) Good logic there&#33; Lets see "I was selling out my own beliefs to help another out. Then planned to go back to my side when I felt I had helped enough"&#33; Nice name change too.


[email protected] 17 2003, 01:25 AM
I&#39;m no turncoat, I just know a worm when I see one.
Then it must be pretty tough to look in the mirror day after day huh? [/b]
Castro_Sucks, I was helping you. I compromised my own beliefs and almost got myself restricted, if not banned. You are the true turncoat, or at the very least as much of one as I am. I was the one member of Che-Lives who advocated your free speech and accesibility to all forums, and I would do it again, however much I disagree with you. Don&#39;t bite the hand that feeds you... Or "helps you" might be more appropriate in this case.
I am no worm. Again, I stood up for you, and this is my thanks&#33; Next time I&#39;ll think twice before doing a thing like that.

And I&#39;m glad you like my new name... so do I ;)
CASTRO_SUCKS
17th December 2003, 01:05
Originally posted by Ortega+Dec 17 2003, 01:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ortega @ Dec 17 2003, 01:43 AM) Castro_Sucks, I was helping you. I compromised my own beliefs and almost got myself restricted, if not banned. [/b]
And that was very honorable of you and has never gone unappreciated. But I noticed you "pulled the rip-cord" when things started getting a little warm&#33; But regardless, just because you spoke out FOR me, doesn&#39;t give you ANY right to slander me, now does it? DOES IT?


Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 01:43 AM
You are the true turncoat, or at the very least as much of one as I am.
Negative "ghost-rider" I&#39;d NEVER compromise MY beliefs&#33; I&#39;ve stood my ground from the start&#33;


Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 01:43 AM
I was the one member of Che-Lives who advocated your free speech and accesibility to all forums...
And I&#39;ve ALWAYS thanked you and spoke HIGHLY of you for it&#33; But WHY sell out yet AGAIN and try to slam ME to look good in everyone else&#39;s eyes?&#33; Shit, I ALWAYS spoke highly of you&#33; You seemed to be the ONE person that actually took the time to STUDY cuba&#39;s history and castro&#39;s past&#33; In my book that made you a worthy adversary. Someone that KNEW right from wrong....fact from fiction, and was willing to back it up&#33; Someone thats actually knowledgeable of the goings-on in cuba&#33; Thats why it disappointed me seeing your post against me&#33;


Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 01:43 AM
Don&#39;t bite the hand that feeds you... Or "helps you" might be more appropriate in this case.
Don&#39;t give me reason to&#33;


Originally posted by [email protected] 17 2003, 01:43 AM
I am no worm. Again, I stood up for you, and this is my thanks&#33;
Read below&#33;

[email protected] 16 2003, 11:34 PM
And Castro_Sucks, why are you still here?? You&#39;ve made your argument, now find some facts to back it up or there&#39;s no point to continuing to post the same shallow arguments.
By the way... I was Comrade_Zapata.....Your pointless, untrue (for the most part) arguments are beginning to annoy even me.
THIS is what you get "thanks" for&#33;
RockNRev
17th December 2003, 01:35
OK...Let&#39;s see if they edit and censor over at PW.com again...This time with witnesses. I have an argument that they CAN&#39;T counter. That&#39;s why they delete it.

There&#39;s a STICKY thread up top called "EAGLE STRIKE". It is the thread that they deleted 7 pages of my posts from. I&#39;ve saved the text of what I said and I&#39;m going to put it back on the thread on page 7.
Here&#39;s the link:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewt...opic.php?t=7914 (http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7914)

Currently, the last post before mine is by "Mr. Argument" and was posted Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:32 pm.

I just added mine right after it. Date and time of entry: Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:33 pm

Here&#39;s what I wrote. Again, what I did here was take the copied text that I had saved, KNOWING they would delete and edit things and put it all back up again. I basically compiled all of my posts into this one. All of my arguments are right here. It may seem a little long now, but read it. You&#39;ll see how these clowns REALLY are:

This thread has been SEVERELY edited. Pages upon pages have been deleted in oder to paint a FALSE picture of what went on in here. I posted again and you deleted again.

K & A, I consider you PUSSIES for doing as such.

So, I&#39;ve come back with all of my arguments that I saved. I&#39;m going to post them here again only THIS TIME, I&#39;ve invited an audience of "special friends" to witness your behavior as well as read my posts. All eyes are on you now.

I will make 3 points.

1.) Your "infiltration" of a PERMITTED peace rally is ILLEGAL and you are no better than ALF or ELF for committing crimes to push your agenda.

2.) You censor, edit and delete posts on your web site to create a FALSE portrayal of what goes on in here. Again...you try to manipulate things to fit your agenda and the only reason to do such a thing is because your AGENDA can&#39;t stand on it&#39;s own without this sort of manipulation.

3.) You have committed copyright infringement, which is ALSO illegal. You did it on one of your T-shirts that you sell ILLEGALLY for a profit. You KNOW it&#39;s illegal, yet you do it anyway. The PROOF that you know it&#39;s illegal comes from your own words in the description of the T-shirt offered. Here&#39;s the shirt:
http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/tshirts/star_wars.jpg
And here&#39;s the quote PROVING these guys know they are criminals and DON&#39;T CARE...As long as they can push their agenda and MAKE MONEY OFF OF YOU&#33;

"Star Wars" - Available until Lucasfilm finds out.
(And George, we paid to sit through Attack of the Clones, you owe us

So...Looks like I&#39;ve already PROVEN point #3. Protest Warriors are DEFINITELY THIEVES. There is NO DOUBT about that now...two more points to go...

Here&#39;s how it went...</span>


Originally posted by "Crazy Dave"
</span>.

Because the protesters did everything all LEGAL LIKE and the IDIOT protest-warriors didn&#39;t. Protest warriors are no better than ELF or ALF. They didn&#39;t have permits. They didn&#39;t go about assembling legally, which means they think they are ABOVE THE LAW.
That is why they were RIGHTFULLY tossed from these events.
THEY WERE COMMITTING ILLEGAL ACTS&#33;

Protest warriors&#33;
HA&#33;
What a joke&#33;
Two kids with wrinkled shirts and dirty jeans.

I&#39;m not fooled. Y&#39;all had to really search just to find the clips you chose to edit into your biased movie.
Give me tens of thousands of right wing republicans and I&#39;ll bet I can film a mess of freaks too. I could edit the clips together the same way.
[color=red]Like I did in the "Anatomy of an Idiot thread y&#39;all dedicated to me.

If they had asked ME any of the same questions, they certainly would have edited my reply out, like they did all the other intelligent replies.
Like they did on this very site. They deleted 7 pages from this very thread because it was a "threat" to their agenda. Luckily, I was prepared for such an action and saved ALL of the text to post again and again all over the web.
Do you really believe that there was not ONE intelligent person out of THOUSANDS? Do you really think the (chuckle) PROTEST WARRIORS were going to edit any of those intelligent people into the biased film? NO&#33;

Y&#39;all are a laughable joke&#33;

Imagine dedicating your whole life to disrupting PEACE rallies? These losers quit their jobs to do this&#33; THEY DON&#39;T FUCKING WORK JOBS PEOPLE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;
They are the jobless BUMS y&#39;all hate so much&#33;
DISRUPTING LEGALLY FORMED, permit carrying, freedom of speech exercising PEACE LOVERS...HA&#33;

When I protested, there were 15,000 people present. I spoke and performed on the same stage with Howard Zinn, Tim Robbins, Jill Stein, etc. None of y&#39;all showed up, and if you had, I would have answered your questions and you would have EDITED ME OUT&#33;
PEER-EE-OD&#33;

And if you had "tossed eggs" at me, as many of you on this board have spoken of, I would have buried my foot DEEP within your ass. I wouldn&#39;t kill you, just xxxx you up real good. I may be against this war and this lying, stealing administration, but I&#39;m not against giving a good ass whippin&#39; where a good ass whippin&#39; is due.

Two unemployed kids in wrinkled t-shirts and filthy jeans?
Y&#39;all choose the FINEST of people to follow around like SHEEP&#33;


BAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

I read it (The constitution). It says you have the right to assemble, yadda, yadda...We know. It doesn&#39;t mention a THING about a needing or NOT needing a permit to do so as you would like me to believe. Requiring permit does not go against the 1st amendment. You can still gather, you just need a permit to do so on public property. So go do it on your OWN private property if you want to avoid obtaining a permit. If you want to use PUBLIC property, you MUST GET A PERMIT BY LAW and anyone who doesn&#39;t, like the IDIOT Protest warriors is BREAKING THE LAW. PERIOD&#33; You&#39;re little wrinkled shirt, dirty jean wearing leaders are BREAKING THE LAW just like ALF and ELF do when THEY go ABOVE THE LAW. End of story, clown.
I can&#39;t just SHOW UP at the Boston Common, set my band up on the stage and start a rock show, even if my message is like yours. I need a permit. You&#39;re pretty dumb if you don&#39;t get it.

You are DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL to get your message across.

PS. I already know every one of your next steps. They always come in the same order. You are at the "bust on my military service and call me a traitor step now". I&#39;ve already outlined these steps starting BEFORE this one and detailing what comes AFTER, so save it. You are SO predictable. I&#39;m 30 steps ahead of you.

This is where they started calling me a traitor...

HA ha ha&#33; OOoooohhh...Y&#39;all are some real fun. I gotta tell ya&#33;
WELL, Bright one...Guess what? I&#39;m not in jail right now am I? I would be if I were a traitor. Don&#39;t you know that, silly? So yes, JUST BECAUSE I say I&#39;m not a traitor DOES mean that I&#39;m not.
It is YOU who cannot hide from THAT truth.

This is where they accuse me of being against FREEDOM.

My problem is not with the freedom of others. After 9/11, when this war started being sold to us, the Iraqi people were not the concern. The president told us that we can&#39;t let this happen TO US again&#33; We MUST attack Iraq&#33;
There is no link between 9/11 and Iraq. He continued on with all sorts of reasons why we should attack Iraq. Not only was he now "linked to 9/11, which we were all very traumatized by, but he had a HUGE arsenal of WMD ready, waiting and aimed at us, deployable in minutes. WE MUST ATTACK NOW&#33; MY PROBLEM is how the administration USED 9/11 and FALSE info about HORRIBLE WEAPONS aimed right at us to push it&#39;s agenda to oust Saddam. OUR ADMINISTRATION TERRORIZED US&#33; Don&#39;t you see that? If we don&#39;t find WMD, then we were lied to...The images of WMD and the terror they can produce was placed into our heads by our own gov&#39;t just to get us to support the agenda. That&#39;s Psychological terrorism. Do YOU appreciate that?

You guys can poke fun at my song, "Wake Up", but did you listen to the words?

I am VERY GLAD that Saddam has been ousted. He was a bad guy. There is no doubt about that. You wouldn&#39;t see me here *****ing if my gov&#39;t had said to me, "Hey...This is a REAL bad guy...LOOK&#33; (Insert images of truth here). We&#39;d like to oust him and liberate those people. Are you with us?"

If there are WMD as described to me by my gov&#39;t before this war started, I hope to God that we find them so that I CAN KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that my own gov&#39;t didn&#39;t use psychological tactics on it&#39;s people to push an agenda.

You see, I don&#39;t have the same problems with this war, or this administration as most of the people you are used to dealing with. It&#39;s not about BLOOD FOR OIL with me. I never used the term...EVER&#33;

Again...Go listen to "WAKE UP" on my site (or don&#39;t and go on thinking you know all about me and my thoughts on this situation. I don&#39;t care.)

That&#39;s GREAT&#33;
If Saddam deserves this for "supporting terrorists" and if his "support of terrorists" is your argument, what do you have to say about this?

He supported all these NASTY TERRORISTS and WE SUPPORTED HIM&#33;

Ya, ya...Buh bLAH blah blah blah blah blah blah&#33;
Dude...A picture is worth a thousand words. GO LOOK AT IT&#33;
You can put your OWN thousand words to it if you want (and apparently, you WANT), but I&#39;ll put my own to it. That is a photo of a handshake between SADDAM and Rumsfeld...PERIOD&#33;
We SUPPORTED SADDAM&#33; PERIOD&#33;
Do we deserve to be bombed and taken over for it?
NO&#33;

I know the details surrounding the photo. Sometimes, for diplomatic reasons, you have to "get in bed" with certain people even if you don&#39;t want to. (In college, we called it "taking one for the team") That&#39;s what we did with him.

That&#39;s what Saddam has done as well. Maybe he even LIKED it, but that&#39;s what he did. He hooked up with WHOEVER supported his agenda just like WE DID.

We also know that America funded Osama bin Laden and taught him terrorism to defeat the Russians. He used our own training against us.

Now go out and find me a picture with Saddam and Osama together in it and I&#39;ll kiss your ass on Main Street.

All I need is a little proof. REAL proof of huge stockpiles as explained to me by my gov&#39;t. My mind has been terrorized by images of huge stockpiles aimed at ME and deployable in minutes, yet none are found. Someone has "terrorized" my mind. Someone has used "Psychological terrorism" on me. Was it Saddam or my own gov&#39;t in order to rally support for this war? I want proof that it was SADDAM&#33;
Why is this so hard to understand?
I WANT WMD to be found. I want LOTS and LOTS of WMD to be found. I WANT to trust my gov&#39;t like I used to. They make it so difficult. There shouldn&#39;t BE this much controversy and scandal surrounding this. There should be NO DOUBT that this is all on the up and up, but I have doubts. Y&#39;all aren&#39;t helping me get rid of my doubts either. Your arguments do NOTHING to help me rid myself of these doubts. I&#39;m not saying that to bust on you this time. I&#39;m telling you the facts.
I need something CONCRETE and I need it NOW&#33;

This is where threats of being banned started...

I think you should BAN me. That&#39;s what you should do. I am TOO MUCH for anyone here to handle. I understand why you would want me gone. DO IT, PUSSIES&#33;

I know why. Y&#39;all COULD ignore me, but you just can&#39;t resist. I OWN you. You are EASY&#33;

Ban me FUCKERS&#33; DO IT&#33; PLEASE&#33; Prove my point that you are too puss to battle a REAL man. Y&#39;all just follow those little boys around, OK?
Fucking sheep&#33;

Oh predictable ones...I ALREADY stated in this very thread that if I were asked the same questions as those on the STRIKE video, I would be edited RIGHT THE xxxx OUT. This desire to ban me ONLY PROVES MY POINT.

Thank you&#33;

I win&#33;

Please note, I came into this thread on page 7 and it has been about NOTHING BUT ME since then. Who&#39;s fault is that? Mine? I must be ONE POWERFUL FUCKING DUDE&#33;

Course, as we all know by now, Kfir edited everything from page 7 and after. He deleted 7 pages full. EDITED&#33; CENSORED&#33; That&#39;s your boyz&#33;

BAN ME ALREADY. MAKE MY CASE FOR ME&#33;
EDIT ME OUT as I said WAAAaaaaaay back on page 7 in my VERY FIRST POST.
EDIT ME OUT NOW&#33; Stop dilly-dallying. I know that&#39;s your style and said so from the get go. DO IT&#33;
I&#39;ll hang on to the complete transcript and post it later somewhere BETTER.

See, I don&#39;t need a permit to come into YOUR little gathering here and aquire "quotes" from you "righties". I said WAY back in the beginning that I could go into ANY group and find the "whackos" that have nothing but angry answers, etc like those that were chosen to be included in the biased STRIKE video.

You have made my case for me. You have proven my point.
Congratulations, kook.

I win, thanks to YOU&#33;
Kfir should be PROUD&#33;

I came with an argument. I said that the two kids with wrinkled shirts and dirty jeans were doing ILLEGAL things to push their agenda. No one argued with me, they (you) immediately resorted to the typical, clich&#39;e remarks. This thread went almost WORD FOR WORD the same way as the VERY FIRST THREAD I EVER POSTED ON HERE. It NEVER FAILS&#33; You ALWAYS go the same route.

Whatever, clowns. Have at it.

Dude, it doesn&#39;t matter WHERE we move the thread. This happens on every thread I post on anywhere on this board.

I came here with an opinion for debate and NOT ONE PERSON has debated it.

I said that what you, the "Protest Warriors" do when you "infiltrate" a PERMITTED peace rally, but don&#39;t have permits of their own for the same location IS ILLEGAL.

Yes, the Constitution says we have the right to assemble, but makes no mention of a permit be needed or NOT needed. TODAY&#39;S law says IT IS NEEDED and Protest Warriors are BREAKING THE LAW by doing what they do. The CORE purpose of the Protest Warriors is based on ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

Dude, if you think that the REQUIRED permits are unconstituional, PROTEST WARRIOR all over THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU TO GET A PERMIT. But no...Instead, you decide to ILLEGALLY bother the people who are actually LEGALLY abiding by the Constitution and gathering for a peaceful assembly.

Don&#39;t you see that this whole idea is BASS ACKWARDS?

Look, I GET what you&#39;re doing. I really do. Honestly, these guys are garnering quite a reputation for themselves. Hell...I&#39;ve heard of &#39;em. How do you think I wound up here? I don&#39;t think anyone here is a "bad person". I just think some, if not MOST of y&#39;all have some screwed up principals, priorities and views. I want you to see it clearly and being "Mr. Nice Guy" NEVER works. For you to notice me, I have to do things the way I&#39;ve been doing them here.

If Y&#39;all want to keep on switching things to personal attacks, feel free. I&#39;ll play the game with you. I&#39;ll use you to toughen my own skin and sharpen my own teeth for as long as you want to play the "yo momma" games.

If you want to debate...See the first half of this post and sock it to me.

If not...Well then...

Yo Momma&#33;

What your missing about the permit is also the "reason" for obtaining the permit. The "REASONS" listed on the permit were to hold an ANTI-WAR PEACE RALLY. Therefore, to show up and try to hold a PRO-WAR rally or demonstration on the same permit would be as illegal as me showing up with my rock band and trying to "just do my thing" on the same permit. Hell, as long as I have a sign or banner, right?
WRONG&#33;

Dude...Protest Warriors are LAW BREAKERS, plain and simple.
You know damn well that showing up at such a rally and asking the questions you ask is going to piss people off. Y&#39;all have been chuckling about it all over this site. Why would you want to TRY TO PISS PEOPLE OFF in a HUGE crowd of people? Do you think the PEACE KEEPERS (The police) want you to do anything even REMOTELY like that? NO&#33;

THAT&#39;S why they keep tossing you. It&#39;s not because they are censoring your rights.
Use your head, man&#33; You know DAMN WELL that if you ASKED if you could go start sh-- at those rallies you would be DENIED and with good reason.
Brother...Crowds of people spook easily. Don&#39;t you know that? I HAVE to believe you are at least THAT intelligent. Why, OOH WHY would you want to even take the slightest chance of causing a HUGE problem like that? Why would you INTENTIONALLY try to piss people off in large crowds?

That&#39;s the problem with these YOUNG boys doing this. They have all sorts of guts and balls, but no brains yet. They are reckless. Any older fellows or ladies on this board can tell you and will.

Plain and simple, what they are doing is NOT VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT and ILLEGAL.

Please...Open your eyes before people get hurt.

I&#39;ll keep presenting you with the FACTS. The FACTS are that what they did and do was and is ILLEGAL and they WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED if they didn&#39;t leave. Why don&#39;t y&#39;all TEST my FACTS and actually not run like pussies if you are so right about this?
As for insighting a riot, you&#39;re right&#33; That&#39;s another reason why they don&#39;t want your silly asses there causing trouble and CAUSING TROUBLE is all you were trying to do. I stand by what I said. The COPS told you it was illegal and made you move. You moved because YOU KNOW it&#39;s illegal.
PERIOD&#33;
If you think your rights were being squandered, why not protest the people who went against the constitution instead of those abiding by it? You have no answer for THAT. I&#39;ve notice how y&#39;all gloss right over it.
Protest Warrior is based on ILLEGAL ACTIVITY just like ALF and ELF.

What you do is ILLEGAL.
You have the right to assemble, says the constitution.
You need a permit says the city.
Get over it.
End of subject.
If you don&#39;t like it, go PROTEST WARRIOR on their asses about it, not mine and my peaceful people trying to exercise our constitutional rights, FREELY and LEGALLY.
You are the asses here. You are doing things WRONG.

I am now being accused of being a traitor and NOT upholding the constitution...
Y, ya, ya...Meanwhile here are the FACTS.
I fought to support the constitution and I&#39;M THE ONE SAYING THAT YOU ARE WRONG. I AM upholding the constitution. Go ahead&#33; ASSEMBLE&#33;, but you need a permit to do it. If you don&#39;t like it, change it. The permit is not stopping you from assembling. The permit is not blocking your constitutional right to assemble. The permit is merely letting the police and city officials know what to expect and be ready for. Are there going to be 5 people or 100,000?
If you can&#39;t see the need for a permit, you are indeed stupid.
I guess your type thinks it&#39;s SMART to just let people converge wherever, whenever they want...In the streets with huge crowds any day of the week without notice...Real bright&#33;
Seriously...Are y&#39;all REALLY this dumb or is this just an act to try to squash my valid argument? I mean you really look VERY dumb with this line of thinking. VERY DUMB&#33;

You obviously don&#39;t see that a permit does not stop you from enjoying your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO ASSEMBLE, it merely informed the city of what to expect. You are a COMPLETE AND UTTER FOOL&#33;

I&#39;ve explained this to you too many times. You are obviously DAFT.
Your argument is STUPID, but if you really believed it, you wouldn&#39;t protest law abiding, contitutionally correct peace lovers, you would protest the city and the police who enforce the required permits to assemble on pulic property that you feel are unconstitutional.

How about you go out and start PERMIT WARRIORS&#33;

You&#39;re thinking has been TOTALLY screwed up.

That&#39;s right. The cops kept there cool and instructed you to leave the area and go to another one AWAY from the peace lovers and you did it because you KNEW what you were doing was illegal and to antagonize the cops would result in an arrest.
...And don&#39;t act like they just said, "please move" and that was it. I saw the video too. One cop actually said "You&#39;ll move or you&#39;ll be my first arrest."
Nice try though. Did you think I didn&#39;t study EVERY LITTLE BIT of this site before I came to do battle with y&#39;all?
HA&#33;

There it is. VALID arguments that were never debated. All I got was pure ad hominem and personal attacks for this. I was accused of not having an argument. What do YOU think?
Xvall
17th December 2003, 21:56
Good work Rev.


Bahahaha....its no different here, slick&#33;

Yeah, it is different here. Although I am aware that people are sometimes restricted and occasionally banned (Usually I don&#39;t even support the bans), we have never edited or censored someone&#39;s posts. We don&#39;t even delete it. At worst we might put it in the &#39;Trashcan&#39; section of the board or lock it.
Ortega
17th December 2003, 23:10
Well sorry, Castro_Sucks... I do consider myself rather well-read on Cuba, Castro, Che, and Socialist politics, and am willing to have a fair debate. That still holds up. If you were new to this site, I would back you up again.

...how do you like your new title? :P
RedCeltic
17th December 2003, 23:13
RockNrev

Hey, I was wondering if you&#39;re a member of vets for peace, and what role your expirience in the Marines played on you questioning it.. (which is why I&#39;m assuming you started posting on PW)

I myself an also a vet. I served four years in the US Navy.
Ortega
19th December 2003, 18:45
Castro_Sucks...?
CASTRO_SUCKS
19th December 2003, 22:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 18 2003, 12:10 AM
...how do you like your new title? :P
I never much cared for "labels" in case you didn&#39;t notice. If you guys want to throw around these ridiculous labels, then so be it&#33;