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JPSartre12
3rd July 2012, 21:52
Hey comrades,

I've only been here a couple weeks, and I'm seeing a lot of different people on here with a bunch of different opinions. Seeing a lot of Marxists (not suprising :p), plenty of Leninists, a good number of Trotskyists, a handful of Stalinists, most people here are pretty anti-revisionist, etc etc.

Out of curiosity for those of you that see this thread, what would you describe yourself as?

I was a sort of liberal Democrat until I started reading history, political theory, comparative religion and philosophy, and so on. Became a bit of a progressive social democrat at that point, but after meeting several communist, Marxist, socialist, and radical people at college for the past couple years they've been challenging my ideas and I've been moving Leftward ever since. So here I am with you guys to talk about all thinks Left and learn more :)

Thoughts?

Thug Lessons
3rd July 2012, 21:56
I'm a cop you idiot.

Prometeo liberado
3rd July 2012, 22:02
He's a cop you....

Deicide
3rd July 2012, 22:03
I'm an opportunist waiting for next revolution, I'll ride the popular movement and consciousness of the masses, until I can take over in bonapartist fashion and set up a dictatorship with me as the great leader. I will lead everyone to Socialism. Hanging a pretty picture of me in your home will be compulsory.

Caj
3rd July 2012, 22:06
I'm a left communist of the Bordigist and Leninist variety.

Ele'ill
3rd July 2012, 22:07
Anarchist

l'Enfermé
3rd July 2012, 22:12
A Marxist. Of the Kautskyist-Leninist variety. A bit of a Trotskyist too.

Book O'Dead
3rd July 2012, 22:23
I'm a Marxian socialist as well a De Leonist. Redundant as it may sound.

Neoprime
3rd July 2012, 22:33
I was a liberal Democrat as well, until I took my Materialism/atheism more seriously, I always wanted to know if there were more Naturalist/atheist societies currently at the time the Ukraine, Sweden parts of Russia & Eastern Germany somewhat meet it. But I was not happy with what I found, then I look more the past and found the USSR, Albania, and early China, this led me to Marxism & Communism, I did not have a tendency at the time cause I keep listening to Trots, Anarchist, and others, this led me to look at things more impartially because most of the info they keep giving sound like capitalist propaganda, and I could not trust them or their point of view anymore.

For years I lurked in forums like Soviet Empire, Liberal Forums, RevLeft, and Politics Forums, to get an understanding of who I really was.

I created what I called Natural Socialism, It's meant to be a Socialist tendency the doesn't have name ism(Marxism, Stalinism, Leninism, Maoism, etc...), I took this on because alot people complained about it and it would come off as more impartial.

It's also meant fight against the mass misinformation on socialism/communism, to Purge weak revolutionaries from sabotaging the strong revolutionaries, create a party/vanguard so that Feminist(would be change to Genderist), Anarchist, LGBT's, Technocrats, M-L's, Maoist, some Trots, many other revolutionaries can unite without bickering out selves to death. With combination of a Uberhuman/Overhuman/Superman, Masters moralities, I believe strong leaders are needed for the future, just like in the past with the great revolutions of before with founders of America, Bolshevicks, and French Revolutionaries lead by Robespierre who went for power in the name of their causes.

As a Natural Socialist I still have to learn much, which is why I lurk here(been lurking since 2007/8), and Soviet Empire, Marxist.org, Stalin Society, Poltical Forums, for some knowledge. I only somewhat came out because I see too much Disinformation been spoke about Socialism by socalist.

Thats all for now.:)

A Revolutionary Tool
3rd July 2012, 22:49
I just describe myself as a revolutionary socialist. I try not to label myself but I find inspiration from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Luxembourg, Mattick, Pannekoek, some Trotskyists, and others.

Red Rabbit
3rd July 2012, 22:54
Currently an Anarchist, but I've had quite the interesting progression.

Republican (Because my parents were)
-> Anarcho-Capitalist (I was like, 10-12 and just wanted to be a pirate)
-> Social Democrat/Liberal (From age 13 to about 18)
-> Marxist-Leninist (This lasted about a month or two)
-> Marxist-Leninist-Maoist (Took about half a year for me to realize I hate Stalin and Mao)
-> Liberal again (Got disillusioned by Stalinism)
-> Democratic Socialist (Started reading Marx again, ignoring Stalin and Mao)
-> Anarchist (Finally got around to reading some Anarchist theory a few months ago)

:D

Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 23:00
Anarchist.

electrostal
3rd July 2012, 23:00
Of the Kautskyist-Leninist variety.
>Kautsky
>Marxist

Seriously? Katusky was a Marxist, as Lenin says, until he sided with capitalist warmongers. Why would anyone want to identify with him...

Also is that you you're restricted?

As for me, I identify as a Stalinist.

Zav
3rd July 2012, 23:07
I switch between calling myself an Anarchist or a Communist depending on my mood and to whom I'm speaking, because Anarchist-Communist is too many syllables early in the morning and doesn't compute for most people. Usually when talking to Americans I'll use Anarchist, because Cold War propaganda is alive and well, and Communist on the Internet, because it makes people mad and it's lulzy to watch.

milkmiku
3rd July 2012, 23:22
Hatsune Miku devotee and paranoid gun nut. My rifle stands ready to defend at all times.

Magón
3rd July 2012, 23:39
I said it once, I'll say it again.


I'm just a badass with a nice left hook and right uppercut.

rylasasin
4th July 2012, 00:30
I'm....

i'm....

A shy lurker who doesn't really know enough/has a very hard time learning enough to really participate in any meaningful discussion.

Oh? you wanted my tendancy?

Marxist. Beyond that... I honestly don't know what I am. A "whatever the hell works"-ist I guess.

NGNM85
4th July 2012, 01:19
'Anarchist', or; 'Libertarian Socialist', either one will do.

The Jay
4th July 2012, 01:46
All I know is that I'm an anti-authoritarian socialist. Other than that I can just say what I like and what I don't.

Ocean Seal
4th July 2012, 01:55
Anti-revisionist anarcho-Stalinist.

Positivist
4th July 2012, 01:59
My preferred identification is as a scientific socialist. I believe that revolutionary theories must be adjusted according to evolving material conditions, and find inspiration in the writings of many marxists as well as some anarchists, though I also believe that nonsocialist thinkers have and will make contributions to revolutionary thought.

Comrade Hill
4th July 2012, 02:04
I was a liberal democrat a year back. I signed up for being a Democrat in my high school government class. Even though I was a Democrat, I never really cared for them. Now I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I have always had radical tendencies. I've always hated chauvinists, racists, and elites who thought they were better than everyone else, with a fiery passion.

However, what matters the most is not just what label you put yourself under, but what you do.

Will Scarlet
4th July 2012, 02:29
I'm new here

Lokomotive293
5th July 2012, 09:20
I would describe myself as a Marxist-Leninist.

Comrade Samuel
5th July 2012, 09:34
Filthy godless Stalinist, my goals are simple: send everybody you know and love to a work camp, build a massive cult of personality around my self and hold giant parades with tons of tanks where everybody celebrates my enteral glory and if anybody dares to question my authority on everything... Let's just say I hope they dress warm.

All jokes aside I would describe myself as a Marxist-Leninist and despite all the sectarianism, childish humor and what not there's plenty of good debates here welcome to the forum comrade!

JPSartre12
5th July 2012, 21:50
Is there anyone here who would consider themselves a revolutionary democratic socialist, or am I the only one? :p

I'm all for gradualism, but I can see how the capitalism>social democracy>socialism reformist approach could easily be stalled or stopped by bourgeois forces, proletarian complacency, etc. I'm all for a revolution too, so long as its done in the right historical moment so that we know that we're not jumping ahead of ourselves when we're not ready for it.

So I guess I would say that I'm for bold, dramatic, fundamental reform, with proposals continuously coming one after another, so that once the ball gets rolling it doesn't just stop and never picks up moving again. I think a democratic change from capitalism to socialism is possible, but I don't think that it's likely - but just cause it's not likely doesn't mean that it's not what I'd prefer :p Pacifist here, I'd rather see the struggle we go through be an intellectual / philosophical one that wakes up the proletariat so it can seize the means of production, rather than have a blood-red armed revolution.

I'm also a hardcore existentialist and cannot get my hands on enough Sartrean literature, so maybe the never-ending, democratic, non-violent "perpetual revolution" thing that I'm sort of getting at (without being an actual Maoist or anything) is just a spin-off of that :blink:

l'Enfermé
5th July 2012, 21:53
>Kautsky
>Marxist

Seriously? Katusky was a Marxist, as Lenin says, until he sided with capitalist warmongers. Why would anyone want to identify with him...

Also is that you you're restricted?

As for me, I identify as a Stalinist.
Kautsky was a huge influence on Lenin, in fact there would have been no Lenin if there was no Kautsky. And clearly I identify with pre-renegade Kautsky, when he was the world's most outstanding Marxist.

Ostrinski
5th July 2012, 22:36
Orthodox Marxist (pre-war Kautsky, pre-Comintern Lenin)

Azraella
7th July 2012, 02:03
Anarcho-Sydicalist with Marxian influences on some issues.

Lanky Wanker
7th July 2012, 03:42
Marxist-Leninist-Maoist-Luxemburgist-Bordigist-Trotskyist-Somethingist-Kautskyist-Kropotkinist-Opportunist-Anarchismist-Reformist-Bourgeoismist Socialist.

That's the short answer I give people.

On a more serious note, I have no idea. I don't read as much as I should, but I guess Lenin sounds like a smart bastard so far.

roy
7th July 2012, 03:50
ardent adherent to the supreme school of anarcho-juche thought

marx-bakunin-lenin-stalin-mao-kim-obama

but seriously pretty much an anarchist

Peoples' War
7th July 2012, 04:56
I'm a Leninist, with no affiliation or time for Stalin. No affiliation to Trotsky or Bordiga.

Welshy
7th July 2012, 05:01
I am Leninist of the left communist leaning variety. I'm starting to read some Bordiga and have enjoyed it so far. I am also unapologetic and uncompromising authoritarian and I will send you to a gulag if you question me. :D

Dumb
7th July 2012, 05:54
I'm a joke that doesn't make anybody laugh.

Revolution starts with U
7th July 2012, 05:58
Existing. Tendencies are for posers. :cool:

Engels
7th July 2012, 06:00
I simply identify as Marxist. If I’m required to be more specific, I would say that I’m a Left Communist. I intensely dislike the party fetishism of Bordiga and am more influenced by the German-Dutch variety (e.g. Gorter, Pannekoek) and also Luxembourg.

Genghis
10th July 2012, 16:52
I am a capitalist. By that, I don't mean that I am rich. It means that I believe in capitalism. I believe that capitalism is best for mankind. It leads to freedom and prosperity.

#FF0000
10th July 2012, 18:30
Communist. I like what a lot of anarchists, left-communists, etc. have to say

Art Vandelay
10th July 2012, 18:47
To steal a term from my buddy Borz, a soft-Trotskyist. Maybe I'll just start calling myself a post-trotskyist for fun.

helot
10th July 2012, 19:08
I'm an anarcho-syndicalist although i refer to myself as a socialist, communist, anarchist, anarchist-communist, anarcho-syndicalist or simply a militant depending on the situation.

Blackscare
10th July 2012, 19:29
I have no idea anymore, politically speaking. Disgruntled, I guess.

ÑóẊîöʼn
10th July 2012, 19:30
Ever since I started becoming more politically aware around 13-14, some form of communist society has made much more sense to me than the daily absurdities and atrocities I'm constantly made aware of under global capitalism. Often anarchists have said things I would wholeheartedly agree with, other times they have said things that leave me incredulous. It's a big tent. But I guess one lesson I've taken home from anarchism is an instinctual preference for the libertarian option, with force and coercion to be used by society on it's members only as a latter resort. Although working class organisation in the UK seems lukewarm at present, I don't see any realistic alternative to it so I'm open to suggestions as far as that goes.

Some years ago, I came to the realisation that in some ways we are as much prisoners of our evolutionary biology as of oppressive socioeconomic systems. Lives are currently vitiated and foreshortened by errors in judgement, ethical transgressions, and instinctual reactions playing out in an inappropriate context. I'd like people to have the opportunity to gain better control of such faculties, above and beyond that which is granted by an improved environment and the provision of the best available social services and restorative medical care. That's why I endorse transhumanism as a practical matter, although I am sorry to report that as a school of thought its currently prevailing culture (as promulgated by today's prominent transhumanists like Ray Kurzweil) is far too dominated by right-libertarian males with that dreary Protestant work ethic. The Silicon Valley set have also made themselves influential by throwing around a lot of money, among them being Peter Thiel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel), who I consider an extremely dodgy character. Transhumanism needs an intellectual and cultural revolution, in my opinion.

Why do I consider some form of technocracy important? Well, when I first came across Technocracy Incorporated, I was intrigued. While the model they presented was structurally flawed (too authoritarian was my main gripe), the basic premise seemed sound. A society's economic system works better the more in accordance with material reality it is; hence the logical evisceration of money as an economic concept (and the vindication of that logic by the current financial clusterfuck), to be replaced with a system of energy accounting which involves a directly measurable relationship to utility. Another point where I take issue with the orthodox technocracy movement are their attempts to distance themselves from politics. They admirably write off electoral politics (or at least to my understanding Tech Inc does) but in doing so they forget that there is an entire political universe outside the realm of parliamentary cretinism.

I also don't have any respect for religion. My conviction is that it is a net negative to society, being a very useful tool of abusers, bullies, con-men and the ruling class, who may overlap with the aforementioned. It is largely sustained by its all-too-common use as a vehicle for taking advantage of people's hopes and desperation when they are intellectually vulnerable, or by transmission to impressionable children. There's also the whole thing of there not being a scrap of evidence for any particular religion being in accordance with observable reality. I think that's an adequate summary for now.

Finally, Marx. The guy was a friggin' genius. Not infallible by any means (dialectics anyone? Wait, don't answer that), but a lot of what he has said has stood the test of time and even some right-wingers grudgingly admit he got some things right. He's cool in my books.

Landsharks eat metal
10th July 2012, 20:12
I call myself an anarcho-syndicalist, but I'm not really certain. I still have a lot to learn before I can consider myself even a little bit knowledgeable about any aspect of the left.

Mass Grave Aesthetics
10th July 2012, 20:22
I am a capitalist. By that, I don't mean that I am rich. It means that I believe in capitalism. I believe that capitalism is best for mankind. It leads to freedom and prosperity.
aaaawwww... that´s just so cute:) It´s nice to see people still having faith in something in these godless times, absolutely adorable.

Anyway, I´m a communist (marxist). I identify the most with left communism, especially Bordiga and the Italian tradition. However, I have plenty of other influences and try approaching everything critically.
I´m "libertarian" in the sense that I think a communist party living up to it´s name has to be an organic part of the working class; being part of the workers struggles as an instrument of the class but not as leftist missionaries.
I´m "athoritarian" in the sense that I think an unbridled force is a necessary evil in smashing the bourgeois order, destroying the ruling class and every counter- revolutionary element.

Omsk
10th July 2012, 20:33
I am a soft-socialist that hates too much state power and authority and violence toward the 'enemies of the people' - i am also a pacifist and anti-sectarian.
I believe in a democratic socialism with a human face.

:)

Forget that, i am an ortodox anti-revisionist Marxist-Leninist.

o well this is ok I guess
10th July 2012, 20:33
cultural marxist

Panda Tse Tung
10th July 2012, 20:42
Anti-Revisionist Marxist-Leninist in the thought of Mao Tse Tung with the immortal contributions of Ludo Martens (i'm only semi-serious, as in: that could be a way to describe my ideology, but i do not cause i'm not a complete nutjob).
I also draw a lot of inspiration from the workers opposition, Althusser, Gramsci, operaismo, Thomas Sankara, the cuban revolution and the Dutch Communist Party in general.

Caj
10th July 2012, 21:03
Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a Roosterist.

International_Solidarity
10th July 2012, 21:35
I would now identify most closely as a Libertarian Marxist, although for me it is difficult to decide on a specific branch to focus on. I've only been a Socialist for a few months and am still researching all of the different branches, I'm not completely sure what to decide yet. (I have found that I am becoming more and more interested in Marxist-Leninism with a Trotskyist influence. I am no fan of Stalin or Mao, although I do see that Capitalists make them out to be far worse than they actually were.)
There are so many branches to research, I usually define myself as a general "Socialist" and will continue to do so until I have completed research. :)
It's hard work not being ignorant.

hatzel
10th July 2012, 21:48
Radical theocrat. Of course. What else would I be?

Omsk
10th July 2012, 21:51
Radical theoc(r)at

Ostrinski
10th July 2012, 21:53
Also, I forgot to mention that I'm a Roosterist.Toward the Second Roosterist International.

SirBrendan
10th July 2012, 22:00
Did someone say anarcho-stalinist......:confused:

I'm a libertarian-socialist who, barring the extistence of a viable commune in my local area, leans between social-democrat democratic-socialist.

I do not support violent revolution unless it were an anarchist revolution after a democratic appeal was refuted. I do not trust most communists.

Art Vandelay
10th July 2012, 23:07
After some thought, I am a post-trotskyist roosterist now that I have thought about it. :laugh:

CryingWolf
10th July 2012, 23:17
Liberal Democrat (Because umm... well, yeah.)
Right-Libertarian (Got introduced to Mises and such, it was the first time I took politics seriously, got off the Ron Paul wagon pretty quick)
Anarcho-Capitalist (After reading Rothbard)
Liberal Democrat (After doing a Descartes and resetting all of my beliefs and adopting a thoroughly rationalist/physicalist/naturalist world view.)
Social Democrat and Imperialist(After studying a hell of a lot of modern bourgeios political theory)
Democratic Socialist (no longer imperialist, after applying criticism of authoritarian institutions to capitalism)
Anarchist ( after analyzing the relationship between liberal democracy and capitalism)
Left Communist (after trying to come up with a practical way of destroying capitalism, work still in progress)

Note: I have never read any work by Marx, Engles, (except the Communist Manifesto, only recently) Lenin, Bakunin, Proudhon, etc.

Genghis
11th July 2012, 00:58
aaaawwww... that´s just so cute:) It´s nice to see people still having faith in something in these godless times, absolutely adorable.

.

Marxism is also a faith. Nobody has seen it work but people still believe in it.

Vladimir Innit Lenin
11th July 2012, 01:16
I'm a Socialist.

Sometimes I call myself a Marxist, but not often. Sometimes I call myself a Left Communist/Libertarian Socialist to highlight that i'm an anti-Leninist, anti-state communist, but not an anarchist.

Mostly I just say i'm a Socialist though.

Omsk
11th July 2012, 01:16
Marxism is also a faith. Nobody has seen it work but people still believe in it.


How can Marxism work? It's not a political system..

Sasha
11th July 2012, 01:34
autonomist with lots of different anarchist, situ and libertarian marxist influences.
one day ill read my bonano, nechachev or ravachol, the next day i'll hold my nose and vote for the reformists...

Revoltorb
11th July 2012, 02:19
Marxist with sympathies to Kautsky, Lenin, and Bordiga. Other minor influences here and there but that's mostly it. Prior to becoming a Marxist I was a U.S. Democrat but that was mostly because I didn't think anything more radical was viable. Now, clearly, I think otherwise.

Sea
11th July 2012, 02:54
My turn-ons include candlelight dinners, long walks on the beach and art galleries.

err..

Usually I just say communist or socialist or if I'm feeling especially indifferent I'll think of something all hippy-sounding and put a drawn out "maann" at the end and leave it at that. Avoids the dogmatism. And that's online, in real life I steer away from discussing ze polotik on account of around here "communist" just means "someone who doesn't support the war on terror" and it's already enough for people to wrap their minds around that I don't attend church.

I don't like stuffing all my political beliefs into a dead bearded person's name.

If you really want to you could stuff me in with the left coms but I'd be liable to pop back out again.


Marxism is also a faith. Nobody has seen it work but people still believe in it.
Sort of like how the LHC was built on faith and we were totally surprised when when we discovered that higgs thingy actually exists. Or the faith that people will all be nice and not get greedy in capitalism. You're still waiting for someone to tell you where socialism has succeded; I'm still waiting for capitalism to lead to freedom and prosperity as you claim it will.

MuscularTophFan
11th July 2012, 04:59
* Pennsylvanian
* Libertarian socialist
* Anarchist
* Anarcho-syndicalism
* Anti-authoritarianism - Many of the Marxist-Leninists and Stalinists on here hate me because I call them out on their bs. Supporting any form of authoritarianism means you support enslaving humanity.
* Anti-theist atheist - Raised Lutheran and stayed Lutheran till I was 19 when I became an anti-theist atheist.
* LGBT rights activist - Openly bisexual
* Male feminist
* Pro-democracy - Distinctions should be left to individual communities councils to decide.
* Anti-statist - Socialism can only be achieved though the abolished of the state.
* Ant-corporatism
* Anti-murder - I oppose murdering any human being or animal period. I however do eat meat.
* Realist

Conscript
11th July 2012, 18:48
* Pennsylvanian
* Libertarian socialist
* Anarchist
* Anarcho-syndicalism
* Anti-authoritarianism - Many of the Marxist-Leninists and Stalinists on here hate me because I call them out on their bs. Supporting any form of authoritarianism means you support enslaving humanity.
* Anti-theist atheist - Raised Lutheran and stayed Lutheran till I was 19 when I became an anti-theist atheist.
* LGBT rights activist - Openly bisexual
* Male feminist
* Pro-democracy - Distinctions should be left to individual communities councils to decide.
* Anti-statist - Socialism can only be achieved though the abolished of the state.
* Ant-corporatism
* Anti-murder - I oppose murdering any human being or animal period. I however do eat meat.
* Realist

Labels r cool guise

ÑóẊîöʼn
11th July 2012, 22:02
Labels r cool guise

What's wrong with labels?

Conscript
11th July 2012, 22:14
What's wrong with labels?

People put too much emphasis on them.

It's like sloganeering for yourself and others, more of a badge of honor than something descriptive.

JPSartre12
11th July 2012, 22:20
People put too much emphasis on them.

Agreed. I know a couple people who try to "prove" that they're Marxist by adhering to everything that Marx says without thinking about it, questioning it critically, reading other peoples' writings, etc and worshipping him like the messiah.

Once you pick a label, it can be a box that you find yourself stuck in. Just believe in what you believe without feeling the need to throw an "ism" at the end of it.

Rafiq
11th July 2012, 22:31
* Pennsylvanian
* Libertarian socialist
* Anarcho-syndicalism
* Anti-authoritarianism - Many of the Marxist-Leninists and Stalinists on here hate me because I call them out on their bs. Supporting any form of authoritarianism means you support enslaving humanity.
* Pro-democracy - Distinctions should be left to individual communities councils to decide.
* Anti-statist - Socialism can only be achieved though the abolished of the state.
* Ant-corporatism
* Anti-murder - I oppose murdering any human being or animal period. I however do eat meat.
* Realist (I.e. in a fantasy land I perceive to be real)

Here you have it, folks. Bourgeois-Liberalism and Moralism.

Rafiq
11th July 2012, 22:32
21st century Orthodox Marxism

l'Enfermé
11th July 2012, 22:48
Agreed. I know a couple people who try to "prove" that they're Marxist by adhering to everything that Marx says without thinking about it, questioning it critically, reading other peoples' writings, etc and worshipping him like the messiah.

Once you pick a label, it can be a box that you find yourself stuck in. Just believe in what you believe without feeling the need to throw an "ism" at the end of it.
Tendency: Democratic Socialism.

JPSartre12
11th July 2012, 23:33
Tendency: Democratic Socialism.

Haha I'm not going to deny that I'm a democratic socialist, but I'm not going to say that I adhere to every democratic socialist principal because it somehow legitimizes my being one.

I don't feel the need to "prove" my democratic socialist credentials by treating it as gospel, but it's a rough framework that the rest of my defining traits bounce around in.

It's only one facet of me. It's not my entire identity ... That's what I'm saying :lol:

Comrades Unite!
12th July 2012, 03:46
I'm a Maoist.

lenin1988
12th July 2012, 03:51
Hey comrades,

I've only been here a couple weeks, and I'm seeing a lot of different people on here with a bunch of different opinions. Seeing a lot of Marxists (not suprising :p), plenty of Leninists, a good number of Trotskyists, a handful of Stalinists, most people here are pretty anti-revisionist, etc etc.

Out of curiosity for those of you that see this thread, what would you describe yourself as?

I was a sort of liberal Democrat until I started reading history, political theory, comparative religion and philosophy, and so on. Became a bit of a progressive social democrat at that point, but after meeting several communist, Marxist, socialist, and radical people at college for the past couple years they've been challenging my ideas and I've been moving Leftward ever since. So here I am with you guys to talk about all thinks Left and learn more :)

Thoughts?

Im a Marxist Leninist Maoist Guevarist Jucheist

Guayaco
12th July 2012, 08:48
I was originally a declassed lumpen with a machiavellian ideology. My idols were the lumpen-burguesía: Joaquín Guzmán, Pablo Escobar, Ismael Zambada, etc.

I slowly became politicized in prison, ending up in Trotskyism.

Deicide
12th July 2012, 10:40
I don't identify with a specific tendency. Cool labels and tendency wars are irrelevant to the working class anyway. I do think Marxism is a useful tool for socioeconomic analysis. Overall I'm a scientific skeptic, so I'll identify as such. I like to pretend to be a Stalinist, but I'm not enough of a lunatic to actually be one :crying:

hatzel
12th July 2012, 10:47
Im a Marxist Leninist Maoist Guevarist Jucheist

Wow you must be really cool...

Commiekirby
12th July 2012, 12:03
I'm a Pan Leftist though I subscribe mainly to the Leninist ideology, I don't see the real point in Leftists fighting each other when there's Right Wing nuts out there trying to ruin everything so that's why I state the whole Pan Leftist thing.

Been a Commie in general for years though, political family and all. :D

hatzel
12th July 2012, 12:31
I don't see the real point in Leftists fighting each other when there's Right Wing nuts out there trying to ruin everything

Mainly because plenty of those leftists are no less reactionary than the right wingers, and the fact that they call themselves leftists doesn't mean they should be immune from the criticism directed at their fellow reactionaries...a truth often overlooked...

maskerade
12th July 2012, 14:14
i'm a defeatist. the revolution is never going to happen.

Comrades Unite!
12th July 2012, 14:22
i'm a defeatist. the revolution is never going to happen.

If your being serious then I disagree severely.
The miners in Spain, the constant protests these days from the Proletariat which will elevate.Class Antagonism's can only get intensified from here on.

Besides there are revolutions going on right now. The Naxalites in India for example.

Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
12th July 2012, 15:23
I refuse to conform to labels and be boxed into a shallow interpretation of ppfft hahahahaha

Nah, I couldn't keep that going, sorry. I'm an anarchist :D

Rafiq
12th July 2012, 17:53
Mainly because plenty of those leftists are no less reactionary than the right wingers, and the fact that they call themselves leftists doesn't mean they should be immune from the criticism directed at their fellow reactionaries...a truth often overlooked...

Indeed. I find it more troubling that people on here think that we should all be coerced into agreeing with each other, no matter how shitty some positions are, just because "well guyz, unite da left!"

The Garbage Disposal Unit
12th July 2012, 18:44
I am one of the fiftiest most punk people in Kanada.
My politics are the first bunch of Submission Hold seven inches.

ÑóẊîöʼn
12th July 2012, 23:16
People put too much emphasis on them.

It's like sloganeering for yourself and others, more of a badge of honor than something descriptive.

So I take it that something along the lines of a short essay would be more acceptable?

DrZaiu5
12th July 2012, 23:26
I'm a libertarian socialist. I'm also very opposed to all forms of authoritarian communism such as Stalinism, Maoism etc.

NGNM85
12th July 2012, 23:57
Here you have it, folks. Bourgeois-Liberalism and Moralism.

Bullshit. That's textbook Anarchism.

hatzel
13th July 2012, 00:13
You know you're really begging for a classic Rafiq-burn making comments like that?

NGNM85
13th July 2012, 00:15
Mainly because plenty of those leftists are no less reactionary than the right wingers, and the fact that they call themselves leftists doesn't mean they should be immune from the criticism directed at their fellow reactionaries...a truth often overlooked...

Where are these people you're referring to?

NGNM85
13th July 2012, 00:19
You know you're really begging for a classic Rafiq-burn making comments like that?

Why the fuck should I care what he thinks? What does that matter? MuscularTophFan's post was, essentially, a textbook, if basic, definition of Anarchism. There's nothing subjective about it.

the Leftâ„¢
13th July 2012, 00:20
I am a member of the working class who fantasizes about its liberation and self-management

DasFapital
13th July 2012, 00:56
trotskyist. I like to side with my fellow tall thin men from history considering its increasingly becoming a fat man's world.

Comrades Unite!
13th July 2012, 03:35
I am a Marxist Leninist Maoist Castroist Jucheist Guevarist Pol Potist Stalinist Trotskyist Communist.

:thumbup1:

hatzel
13th July 2012, 10:04
Where are these people you're referring to?

Everywhere, really *insert that Buzz and Woody meme saying something like 'pseudo-radical reactionaries, pseudo-radical reactionaries everywhere,' I dunno...*

Conscript
13th July 2012, 20:07
So I take it that something along the lines of a short essay would be more acceptable?

Not just short essays, entire blogs, of course.

l'Enfermé
13th July 2012, 23:43
Bullshit. That's textbook Anarchism.
Bourgeois liberalism/moralism and Anarchism are not exclusive.

ÑóẊîöʼn
14th July 2012, 00:59
Not just short essays, entire blogs, of course.

So you think that people should be prepared to write a blog before they can (for example) call themselves a communist?

That seems a little odd to me. What if I have a position, but feel that someone else has articulated it in a manner far more impressive and convincing than I could ever hope to achieve?

What about short-hand? One may feel it necessary to refer to a position or ideology in a concise manner, and repeatedly elaborating on stuff that has an agreed (or at least consistent) definition is wearing for both the writer and the reader.

Labels have their uses.