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elijahcraig
15th December 2003, 04:30
These are not in order

1. Funhouse-Stooges
2. Stooges-s/t
3. Raw Power-Stooges
4. Bleach-Nirvana
5. In Utero-Nirvana
6. Nevermind-Nirvana
7. Unplugged-Nirvana
8. Never Mind the Bollucks-Sex Pistols
9. Trout Mask Replica-Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
10. Berlin-Lou Reed
11. We're Only In It For the Money-Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
12. Transformer-Lou Reed
13. Velvet Underground and Nico-s/t
14. Loaded-Velvet Underground
15. White Light/White Heat-Velvet Underground
16. Ramones-s/t
17. Catch A Fire-Bob Marley and the Wailers
18. London Calling-Clash
19. Combat Rock-Clash
20. Clash-s/t
21. Static Age-Misfits
22. Blank Generation-Richard Hell and the Voidoids
23. The Blue Mask-Lou Reed
24. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars-David Bowie
25. Metal Machine Music-Lou Reed
26. Too Much Too Soon-New York Dolls
27. New York Dolls-s/t
28. Bringing It All Back Home-Bob Dylan
29. Highway 61 Revisited-Bob Dylan
30. Blonde on Blonde-Bob Dylan
31. Bad Moon Rising-Sonic Youth
32. Goo-Sonic Youth
33. Daydream Nation-Sonic Youth
34. Murray St.-Sonic Youth
35. Dirty-Sonic Youth
36. Let It Bleed-Rolling Stones
37. Exile on Main St.-Rolling Stones
38. Double Nickels on the Dime-Minutemen
39. Zen Arcade-Husker Du
40. Piper At the Gates of Dawn-Pink Floyd (Syd Barrett era)
41. The Wall-Pink Floyd
42. Dark Side of the Moon-Pink Floyd
43. White Stripes-s/t
44. White Blood Cells-White Stripes
45. Legend-Bob Marley
46. Elephant-White Stripes
47. The Downward Spiral-Nine Inch Nails
48. Time Out of Mind-Bob Dylan
49. Live At San Quentin-Johnny Cash
50. Lick My Decals Off, Baby!-Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
51. Soft Milk-Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
52. Doors-s/t
53. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band-Beatles
54. Great Twenty-Eight-Chuck Berry
55. Damaged-Black Flag
56. The Modern Dance-Pere Ubu
57. It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back-Public Enemy
58. Surfer Rosa-Pixies
59. Trompe le Monde-Pixies
60. The Times They Are A-Changin'-Bob Dylan
61. Is This It-Strokes
62. Room on Fire-Strokes
63. Rage Against the Machine-s/t
64. Evil Empire-Rage Against the Machine
65. Battle of Los Angeles-Rage Against the Machine
66. Bayou-Creedence Clearwater Revival
67. Superfuzz Migmuff-Mudhoney
68. Killer-Alice Cooper
69. Call the Doctor-Sleater-Kinney
70. Black Sabbath-s/t
71. Untitled-Led Zeppelin
72. Beggar's Banquet-Rolling Stones
73. Marquee Moon-Television
74. Revolver-Beatles
75. Symphony Number Ten-Glenn Branca Ensemble
76. Blood on the Tracks-Bob Dylan
77. Damned Damned Damned-Damned
78. 4'33"-John Cage
79. Hot Rats-Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
80. Goodbye Twentieth Century-Sonic Youth
81. Freak Out!-Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention
82. Are You Experienced?-Jimi Hendrix Experience
83. Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables-Dead Kennedys
84. New Day Rising-Husker Du
85. Talking Heads '77-Talking Heads
86. Egon Bondy's Happy Hearts Club Banned-Plastic People of the Universe
87. Pink Flag-Wire
88. Generic-Flipper
89. Kind of Blue-Miles Davis
90. #1 Record-Big Star
91. Faust IV-Faust
92. Jazz in Silhouette-Sun Ra and his Arkestra
93. Naked City-John Zorn
94. The Complete Works-Edgard Varese
95. Horses-Patti Smith
96. Rumble!-Link Wray
97. Electric Ladyland-Jimi Hendrix Experience
98. Let It Be-Replacements
99. Forever Changes-Love
100.More Songs About Buildings and Food-Talking Heads


Opinions?

(*
15th December 2003, 04:49
I can't believe you actually listed 100 albums. I will comment on the top 10, as they are the most important


1. Funhouse-Stooges
2. Stooges-s/t
3. Raw Power-Stooges
4. Bleach-Nirvana
5. In Utero-Nirvana
6. Nevermind-Nirvana
7. Unplugged-Nirvana
8. Never Mind the Bollucks-Sex Pistols
9. Trout Mask Replica-Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
10. Berlin-Lou Reed


Nevermind and In utero are good choices. I'm not a fan of the other choices (but it's a matter of choice really).
I'd throw some Cat Stevens, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, and Prince in there.

synthesis
15th December 2003, 05:40
I can't believe you actually listed 100 albums.

Haha, that's exactly what I thought.

I dig most of your choices. Mine would probably be similar, actually, but with way more Zeppelin, Hendrix, some Soundgarden, and maybe 20% underground hip-hop.

redstar2000
15th December 2003, 10:10
Nice to see the early Dylan material recognized...regardless of his later stuff, he was the great poet of the new left in the early 60s.

Many of us then thought the Beatles were rather plastic--though Rubber Soul got a fair amount of play in leftie apartments.

But it was the "San Francisco" sound that really made an impression on the lefties I knew...including me. Surrealistic Pillow knocked us on our asses!

The first time I heard it, I thought "this can't be rock & roll, it's too good!"

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RedCeltic
15th December 2003, 11:33
But it was the "San Francisco" sound that really made an impression on the lefties I knew...including me. Surrealistic Pillow knocked us on our asses!

That Jefferson Airplane album's one of my favorites for sure!

My generation (80's) didn't have good music... it was sort of a musical black hole decade haha... if it wasn't heavy metal, it was music from the woodstock generation lol. It worked for me...because my parents weren't into that scene.

Danton
15th December 2003, 14:03
Bob Marley - Legend
Combat rock - The Clash

By the standards set by these artists, both these albums are very weak...


It Takes A Nation of Millions To Hold Us Back - Public Enemy
Jazz in Silhouette - Sun Ra and his Arkestra

Both essential..

dopediana
15th December 2003, 14:21
combat rock? my boyfriend and i both agree on that one. it straight up sucked. when the clash hits, they really hit. likewise when they miss, they really miss. i'd stick in "sandinista!" instead of combat rock.

you also need some janis joplin and simon and garfunkel in there.

btw, the wailers are coming to the norva on the 27th. too bad i'm having a sleepover party.

Urban Rubble
15th December 2003, 14:56
The thing about Combat Rock is, it was popular and cool in a hip (at the time) 80's new wave kind of thing. For fans of that sort of music it was one of the best albums ever. For real Clash fans it was like "What the fuck is this?".

Regardless, it was a great 80's pop album, but I think it's their worst album.

elijahcraig
16th December 2003, 00:16
Nice to see the early Dylan material recognized...regardless of his later stuff, he was the great poet of the new left in the early 60s.

Many of us then thought the Beatles were rather plastic--though Rubber Soul got a fair amount of play in leftie apartments.

But it was the "San Francisco" sound that really made an impression on the lefties I knew...including me. Surrealistic Pillow knocked us on our asses!

The first time I heard it, I thought "this can't be rock & roll, it's too good!"

I could have listed Dylan’s stuff even before Times Are A-Changin’, but I had to make room.

Jefferson Airplane had I think two good solid albums, which the one you named I might have added if I had a few more spaces.

What kind of music do you like other than rock and roll? I could have put Wagner, Beethoven, Xenakis, some Chopin, and other more “avant-garde” jazz or classical musicians if I knew of any certain albums.


My generation (80's) didn't have good music... it was sort of a musical black hole decade haha... if it wasn't heavy metal, it was music from the woodstock generation lol. It worked for me...because my parents weren't into that scene.

Wrong wrong wrong. 80s were great. MAINSTREAM was awful. But that’s pretty much how it always is.

80s had Minutemen, Sonic Youth, Nirvana, Husker Du, Pere Ubu, Replacements, and that’s for starters.


combat rock? my boyfriend and i both agree on that one. it straight up sucked. when the clash hits, they really hit. likewise when they miss, they really miss. i'd stick in "sandinista!" instead of combat rock.


I guess it’s opinion. I like Sandinista.


The thing about Combat Rock is, it was popular and cool in a hip (at the time) 80's new wave kind of thing. For fans of that sort of music it was one of the best albums ever. For real Clash fans it was like "What the fuck is this?".

Regardless, it was a great 80's pop album, but I think it's their worst album.

I love the Clash.

But I’d put them farther down on the “punk” bands list if I had to make one.



I actually wrote this list fairly quick, about 20 minutes or so.

I probably left out a bunch.

Johnny Thunders-So Alone, Public Image Ltd for starters that I’m thinking of off hand.


And if I had to make a top ten list in order, as someone said it was the most important, they would be:

1. Velvet Underground and Nico-s/t
2. In Utero-Nirvana
3. Daydream Nation-Sonic Youth
4. Funhouse-Stooges
5. Trout Mask Replica-Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band
6. Never Mind the Bollucks-Sex Pistols
7. Bringing It All Back Home-Bob Dylan
8. White Light/White Heat-Velvet Underground
9. Raw Power-Stooges
10. Stooges-s/t

I've gotta have my Stooges.

Although Iggy teaming up with SUM-41 really sucked. For the most part aside from maybe The Idiot and Lust for Life, Iggy's solo career has been quite embarassing.

Bolshevika
16th December 2003, 00:32
The best Clash album was "London Calling".

elijahcraig
16th December 2003, 00:59
I have to agree.

I'd put their debut at number two.

dopediana
16th December 2003, 01:13
every now and then the clash have a really awesome song. on london calling i'd say there's london calling, spanish bombs, i'm not down (that bit with the syncopated drumming in the middle kicks ass), the right profile, and clampdown. all good songs. now on sandinista you have in my opinion the cleverest song EVER, and the most beautiful, second only to the next one i'm about to mention. "washington bullets" is just ....aw. the marimba is good and it's a fucking history recap. then there's "lose this skin" which i love because of the music mainly. that folky, old coastal europe style with all the tonal variations mixed with joe's particularly erratic vocals is amazing.


velvet underground and nico has got so many good songs on it that it's like a fucking best hits album except for not. heroin. i could listen to that song all day long. and i'll be your mirror, too. thing is, i listened to it for about 2 weeks nonstop and got tired of it. i need to not cash in all my love on the first day.

elijahcraig
16th December 2003, 01:30
I did that with Raw Power.

timbaly
16th December 2003, 02:02
Wow I can't belive you listed 100 albums. I don't think I've listened to that many in my entire lifetime. Although I haven't listened to the majority of whats on your list what I have heard is very deserving. So how about a top movies list? That would be very interesting as well. It was you who said 2001: A Space Odyssey was your favorite movie at ISF, correct?

elijahcraig
16th December 2003, 21:46
There are two movies I really couldn't choose between: A Clockwork Orange and 2001: A Space Odyssey. 2001 is the greater film; I probably enjoy Clockwork better. Kubrick is the greatest.

Movies list, I can't put it in order

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. A Clockwork Orange
3. The Lord of the Rings Trilogy
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Blue Velvet
6. Full Metal Jacket
7. Reservoir Dogs
8. Barry Lyndon
9. Sleepers
10. Mulholland Drive
11. Elephant Man
12. Eraserhead
13. Natural Born Killers
14. Doors
15. Platoon
16. Do the Right Thing
17. Salvador
18. Annie Hall
19. The Godfather Trilogy
20. Eyes Wide Shut
21. Ed Wood
22. Ikiru
23. Aguirre, the Wrath of God
24. The Year Punk Broke
25. The Shining
26. Dr Strangelove
27. Citizen Kane
28. Apocalypse Now
29. Taxi Driver
30. Goodfellas
31. Casino
32. Raging Bull
33. Rainman
34.Straw Dogs
35. The Graduate
36. Midnight Cowboy
37. Jackie Browne
38. Kill Bill
39. Bonnie and Clyde
40. Reds
41. It's A Wonderful Life
42. Seven
43. Fight Club
44. Chinatown
45. City Lights
46. Gone with the Wind
47. Fargo
48. Five Easy Pieces
49. Badlands
50. Days of Heaven
51. Cool Hand Luke
52. Brazil
53. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
54. Manhattan
55. Shawshank Redemption
56. Night of the Living Dead
57. Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974)
58. Scarface
59. Outlaw Josey Welles
60. Good, Bad, and the Ugly
61. Unforgiven
62. The Conversation
63. Mean Streets
64. Halloween
65. All About Eve
66. Wizard of Oz
67. Woodstock
68. Dog Day Afternoon
69. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
70. Caligula
71. Lolita
72. Spartacus
73. The Killing
74. Paths of Glory
75. On the Waterfront
76. A Streetcar Named Desire
77. Children of Paradise
78. Casablanca
79. French Connection
80. Psycho
81. Sunset Boulevard
82. The Filth and the Fury
83. The General
84. A Christmas Story
85. Wings of Desire
86. 8 1/2
87. La Dolce Vita
88. JFK
89. King Kong
90. Paper Moon
91. Seven Samurai
92. Schindler's List
93. Close Encounters of the Third Kind
94. ET
95. Silence of the Lambs
96. Persona
97. Patton
98. The Bridge on the River Kwai
99. Lawrence of Arabia
100. Touch of Evil

El Brujo
16th December 2003, 21:53
I liked The Clash's self-titled album more than London Calling (though it wasn't bad either). More punk, less new-wave.

timbaly
17th December 2003, 03:14
I've seen over 50% of the movies on your list and all that I've seen are definetely deserving. I notice a lot of Kubrick films are on it, he's arguably the best director of all time.

synthesis
17th December 2003, 06:12
I agree, that's a good movie list. I'd have Scarface much closer to the top, and I'd have the Usual Suspects on there, and Versus. I'd also have some stoner movies, but I doubt you care about that.

RAGING BULL
17th December 2003, 09:37
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 15 2003, 03:56 PM
Regardless, it was a great 80's pop album, but I think it's their worst album.
Even worse than Cut the Crap? I don't think that's possible.

elijahcraig
18th December 2003, 05:12
I would put Scarface higher up if it was in order, I was just listing random places, not in order.

Usual Suspects should be on there I agree.

timbaly
19th December 2003, 02:30
I would add The Grapes of Wrath to that list. Vertigo and North by Northwest are two of Hitchcocks greatest films, they're definetly in my top ten. The Poseidon Adventure is another of my favorites. I love how the preist realizes that god didn't help him get through all the obstacles, he was the best "holy" man ever portrayed on the screen.

Dr. Rosenpenis
19th December 2003, 04:07
Untitled - Led Zeppelin

Do you mean Led Zeppelin I or Led Zeppelin IV?

elijahcraig
19th December 2003, 20:25
IV, their first album had a name.

I forgot the Grapes of Wrath, that'd be one of my favorite films.

Jesus Christ
19th December 2003, 20:45
yuck, I hate Nirvana
so damn overrated

elijahcraig
20th December 2003, 01:17
^Pathetic. :ph34r:

Ortega
20th December 2003, 01:30
Nirvana's hip ;)

But the Meat Puppets are even better. Without the Meat Puppets, there would be no Nirvana.

elijahcraig
22nd December 2003, 18:14
That's a bit of an overstatement.

It should be: If there were no Melvins, there would be no Nirvana.

redstar2000
23rd December 2003, 11:43
What kind of music do you like other than rock and roll? I could have put Wagner, Beethoven, Xenakis, some Chopin, and other more “avant-garde” jazz or classical musicians if I knew of any certain albums.

As you may know, the 50s were "the golden age" of "cool jazz"...I spent a lot of time listening to Miles Davis, Stan Getz, Paul Desmond, etc. The early 60s, among lefties at least, was the "age of folk"...not only Dylan but also Joan Baez were instant "hits". Since Dylan had such a terrible voice, his material was recorded for "mainstream" release by Peter, Paul & Mary...but many of us preferred the original. It was something of a "scandal" when Dylan went "electric" at the Newport Folk Festival (1963, I think).

As a teenager, I did listen to a huge amount of 19th century symphonic music...especially the Russian composers. It was "perfect teenage music"...loud, gloomy, and with a smashing finish.

Movies are tough: but the best one I ever saw from a political standpoint was State of Siege on the Tupamoros guerrillas in Montevideo...a brilliant attack on both U.S. imperialism and its quislings in Latin America.

I've only seen part one of the LOTR trilogy; the special effects were quite impressive but (inevitably) I kept comparing it to the book. The most jarring element was that the movie hobbits look like teenagers...Frodo and Samwise are actually about 50 and Merry and Pippin are at least 30. You'd never guess from the movie that Arwen--Aragorn's elf maid--is about 2,000 years old. (!)

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