The WCOTC

[Moskitto]

After finding a link to this site and the KKK on a description of the Spartacists League website site I decided to investigate these. While the KKK site is like many communist sites in that it's trying to say "We've been given a bad press" (albeit not too successfully.) This site of the World Church of the Creator is dedicated to spreading the ideas of non-whites being "Mud Races" blacks being "Close to monkeys and near sub human" and Holocaust denial while criticising the US government as being Jewish and attacking minority groups within the government.

It attacks Christianity for promoting "Hate for your own kind yet love for your neigbour" attacks the philosophy of "Treat others how you would wish to be treated" on the basis that you treat a friend differently to an enemy.

The most outragous claim is that Jews caused the deaths of 100 million "Whites" in Russia under the orders of Trotsky between 1920-1940, clearly any such claimant has a limited knowledge of the USSR and doesn't accept that Stalin Did kill Jews.

I urge everyone to combat this group wherever it's found, write websites, tell people to ignore the claims of this group, There's several websites with lists of phone numbers of it's leaders if you want to use them for anything useful.

This group also uses the "First Ammendment" to say that they have the right to free speach. Why must their free speach be protected more than those who they oppose. I say freedom ends where it denies another freedom.

[Viva Zapata]

I couldn't agree with you more, they are even more stupid than I thought. Wasn't the first human being on earth black ????? and the holocaust denial...there are still lots of people who had the sad tragedy to live through WW2, so they are basically accusing them for being liars. I know for a fact that my grandparents were in a Japanese camp, killed my grandfather and I don't know what they did to my grandmother over there but I think you can guess. She never spoke 'bout that period though. but I have Friends who lost Grandparents or other relatives in europe in ww2 in concentrationcamps so they must be liars as well ...according to the KKK.
assholes!!!!!

[Moskitto]

the KKK's website wasn't as bad because it was trying to say that they're about love for the white race. but this website is sick

http://www.wcotc.org makes the KKK look tame.

I'm going to start a webring (if there isn't one already) calling for action against this evil hate organization.

[Nickademus]

oviously this group is based in the US where they do have pretty much the absolute freedom to say whatever they want. and despite all the hat that is out there, i think freedom of speach is absolutely essential. As someone else as said, i may hate what you have to say, but i'll die fighting for your right to say it. I get extremely frustrated here in Canada, where free speach/freedom of expression is more limited because of how much the government is starting to interefere with personal life. A guy in canada was actually arrested for owning kiddy pornography. in actuality the stuff was stories he had written himself for his own personal use. too me that is appauling.

ironically in the united states last year a sixteen year old girl was forbidden from drawing pentagrams and other religios symbols of the wiccan religion.

These are situations were the intereference of the government has gone too far. besides often we leftists are seen as radical and horrific as the KKK (i know it sounds absurd to us but its true) without free speach the revolution would never come.

grasp onto free speach and freedom of expression as tight as you can because without it we all would not be here.

cheers comrades

[Anonymous]

i agree with freedom of speach for the nazis with some reluctance but still do. As for child pornografy it think i should remain ilegal for sure, maybe even jail time.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from El_Che on 1:51 am on Nov. 22, 2001
i agree with freedom of speach for the nazis with some reluctance but still do. As for child pornografy it think i should remain ilegal for sure, maybe even jail time.
but the point was that it wasn't really child porn. it was a guy who had written stories that involved porn. totally different in my mind

[Guest1]

Its hard, but I do believe in freedom of speech for all. But that doesn't stop me from countering what this website has to say, just that I won't try to shut them down.

[Nickademus]

and i agree che y majiuana (hell i can't spell today)
the way to counter-act hate speach is with words

[Moskitto]

Freedom should end where it limits another's freedom.

[CommieBastard]

Them saying that shit doesnt limit anyone's freedom, because they haven't got any power over anyone.

I agree that freedom should be allowed except where it limits anothers freedom, and that's exactly why i think fascists should get their say, and be allowed to associate etc, just so long as they never get any frikkin power. Let them have their own little segregated worlds in theior heads, just so long as they dont spread to reality.

[Guest1]

If they took up arms to create their racist state, then I'd support taking them down.