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tradeunionsupporter
1st July 2012, 12:14
How do you prove to Working Class People who support Capitalism that Capitalist Nations are Dictatorships of the Bourgeoisie ? I know that in the United States of America the two Capitalist Political parties debate each other and we pick who to vote for the Politicans Im sure in Europe and Canada there are more then two Political Parties but Capitalism can never be a Democracy would anyone agree ?

Capitalist "Democracy": Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie
(Quote of the Week)

http://www.icl-fi.org/english/wv/864/qotw.html


Dictatorship of the Bourgeoisie
The most democratic bourgeois republic is no more than a machine for the suppression of the working class by the bourgeoisie, for the suppression of the working people by a handful of capitalists.
Even in the most democratic bourgeois republic "freedom of assembly" is a hollow phrase, for the rich have the best public and private buildings at their disposal, and enough leisure to assemble at meetings, which are protected by the bourgeois machine of power. The rural and urban workers and small peasants – the overwhelming majority of the population – are denied all these things. As long as that state of affairs prevails, "equality", i.e., "pure democracy", is a fraud.
"Freedom of the press" is another of the principal slogans of "pure democracy". And here, too, the workers know – and Socialists everywhere have explained millions of times – that this freedom is a deception because the best printing presses and the biggest stocks of paper are appropriated by the capitalists, and while capitalist rule over the press remains – a rule that is manifested throughout the whole world all the more strikingly, sharply and cynically – the more democracy and the republican system are developed, as in America for example...
The capitalists have always use the term "freedom" to mean freedom for the rich to get richer and for the workers to starve to death. And capitalist usage, freedom of the press means freedom of the rich to bribe the press, freedom to use their wealth to shape and fabricate so-called public opinion. In this respect, too, the defenders of "pure democracy" prove to be defenders of an utterly foul and venal system that gives the rich control over the mass media. They prove to be deceivers of the people, who, with the aid of plausible, fine-sounding, but thoroughly false phrases, divert them from the concrete historical task of liberating the press from capitalist enslavement.
V.I. Lenin
First Congress of the Communist International (http://www.revleft.com/vb/../../../archive/lenin/works/1919/mar/comintern.htm)

http://www.marxists.org/glossary/terms/d/i.htm

US revolution is near — economist

Uploaded by RussiaToday (http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday) on Jan 3, 2010

Capitalism brings immense suffering to the world and needs to be overthrown that is according to political economist and author Raymond Lotta from New York. He told RT he thinks a revolution is coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg3hYLzfWYQ

SirBrendan
10th July 2012, 22:34
'Capitalism can never be a Democracy would anyone agree?'

Capitalism eats democracy alive. I can't fight that. There are however bodies and regulations which can serve to limit the corruption. First off, ban lobby groups. Ban corporate donations. Limit private donation. Provide mandatory public funding for political parties which achieve a certain degree of support. Institute a national media news source (Private news sounds great until you consider how they'll be funded otherwise).

Those are the easy ones. America has none of them, which is why that poor country is so horrifyingly regressive. But let's get more radical,

Follow it up with a vow of poverty for political leaders. They must remove control over any industry or business, to prevent interfering interests. Opulence and prestige is not what political office ought to be about. Political office demands sacrifice, shared adversity, and leadership through conscience rather than interest. In other words, burn Versailles.

But I do believe that capitalism is a transitional phase. I believe it is necessary to provide the means for socialism to take hold. And I believe it will be through capitlalist democracy that socialism will become the new way

Dean
11th July 2012, 01:11
The OP has already been banned for being a racist, fyi.