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shinjuku dori
30th June 2012, 07:40
I'm Kaza from Tokyo. I do not belong to any organization. Here the Communist Party is a eurocommunist style joke that promotes preserving the emperor! In the past we had insane communist cults that killed people. There is a bad taste for them. Still JCP is the fastest growing party here because so many people are discontent.
We had small occupy movement recently, but it failed. Still many people were interested in that happening in the United States.
Our two biggest cities are now ruled by fascist mayors.
I am wondering why my many posts have not been approved by moderators. I am excited to get involved in the conversation!
#FF0000
1st July 2012, 04:41
Welcome, guy.
I am wondering why my many posts have not been approved by moderators. I am excited to get involved in the conversation!
Oh, that goes on for awhile. Once you get so many posts it won't happen anymore.
Don't Swallow The Cap
1st July 2012, 04:49
Welcome!
ВАЛТЕР
1st July 2012, 11:41
Welcome comrade! The post moderation only goes on for so long. After you post a certain number of posts it goes away.
Sixiang
1st July 2012, 11:43
Welcome comrade. I study Japanese history, language, and culture. It is nice to hear from a Japanese comrade. I have similar views towards the JCP.
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
1st July 2012, 12:15
I have similar views towards the JCP.
I think all the radical left is in quite a good agreement that "Eurocommunist" parties are social-democratic, for once.
I bet their popularity surge will be temporary, once people realise they are a de-facto establishment party.
Positivist
1st July 2012, 13:39
Welcome comrade!
So are these mayors openly fascists?
Tim Cornelis
1st July 2012, 13:52
Some 1920s Japanese anarchist also wanted to preserve the Emperor for some obscure reason. I think it was Hatta Shuzo, not sure about that though.
I bet their popularity surge will be temporary, once people realise they are a de-facto establishment party.
Unless their surge is due to the fact that they are a "de facto establishment party".
shinjuku dori
1st July 2012, 15:19
Actually most people are not voting. It's kind of joke here. But these people are joining for actual membership in JCP.
Mayors of Tokyo and Osaka do not say like "I am fascist" but their policies speak for themselves. Mayor of Osaka is currently doing purge of people with tattoo and says democracy is not right system for Japanese people. Mayor of Japan is obsessed with discussing who is even and isn't "real Japanese race." You can guess his intention for people who are not "real Japanese race."
This is important for everyone since Tokyo is biggest city in world.
Mr. Natural
1st July 2012, 16:39
Welcome! I've already come across one of your posts, and it was informative. I appreciate your informed energy!
Prometeo liberado
1st July 2012, 19:24
Welcome Comrade! Just finished a book on Emperor Hirohito, strange and interesting to say the least.
Tim Cornelis
1st July 2012, 21:57
Actually most people are not voting. It's kind of joke here. But these people are joining for actual membership in JCP.
Mayors of Tokyo and Osaka do not say like "I am fascist" but their policies speak for themselves. Mayor of Osaka is currently doing purge of people with tattoo and says democracy is not right system for Japanese people.
Well, fascism is not synonymous with generic authoritarian measures.
Mayor of Japan is obsessed with discussing who is even and isn't "real Japanese race." You can guess his intention for people who are not "real Japanese race."
East Asian countries like China, the two Koreas, Japan, and Taiwan strike me as deeply racist. White/European English teachers in South Korea are more or less harassed, immigration rules are incredibly strict. Japan also has strict migration policies and the Prime Minister proudly said "Japan is a one-race nation" or something. I know of anecdotes from Taiwan of racism in Taiwanese media and government. And China had racist anti-African protests in 1988 against African students. (All these countries have immigration policies, the European far-right envies, I imagine).
Is there any opposition to this racist sentiment from the left in Japan?
EDIT:
Actually most people are not voting. It's kind of joke here. But these people are joining for actual membership in JCP.
What is the motivation for so little people voting? Are they dissatisfied with the political system, or perhaps too satisfied that they don't care?
Sperm-Doll Setsuna
1st July 2012, 22:00
Actually most people are not voting. It's kind of joke here. But these people are joining for actual membership in JCP.
Mayors of Tokyo and Osaka do not say like "I am fascist" but their policies speak for themselves. Mayor of Osaka is currently doing purge of people with tattoo and says democracy is not right system for Japanese people. Mayor of Japan is obsessed with discussing who is even and isn't "real Japanese race." You can guess his intention for people who are not "real Japanese race."
This is important for everyone since Tokyo is biggest city in world.
Isn't the Mayor of Nagoya also some kind of right-wing nutter?
shinjuku dori
1st July 2012, 23:48
Welcome Comrade! Just finished a book on Emperor Hirohito, strange and interesting to say the least.
Strange thing is that here no one knows he is called Hirohito. If you try to talk about "Hirohito" they don't know who you are talking :lol: We don't call emperor by his name.
shinjuku dori
1st July 2012, 23:53
Well, fascism is not synonymous with generic authoritarian measures.
I know meaning of fascism. We had good experience with it here if you remember. I can see these mayors are belonging to same path.
East Asian countries like China, the two Koreas, Japan, and Taiwan strike me as deeply racist. White/European English teachers in South Korea are more or less harassed, immigration rules are incredibly strict. Japan also has strict migration policies and the Prime Minister proudly said "Japan is a one-race nation" or something. I know of anecdotes from Taiwan of racism in Taiwanese media and government. And China had racist anti-African protests in 1988 against African students. (All these countries have immigration policies, the European far-right envies, I imagine).
Is there any opposition to this racist sentiment from the left in Japan?
What left in Japan?
Crazy Stalin lover get excited about North Korea and they love Korean if you mean that.
Real problem is kind of racism against Ainu, Korean and half person. So usually they don't say they are anything but Japanese.
And I don't really think "racism" is problem against white Americans. You are talking about English teacher. They come to Korea or Japan just like temporary job to make lot of money. They don't care about education or student. They don't care about country. They don't learn local language or even try. They get drunk and do a lot of generally bad thing. That is why they are not liked.
If Japanese say no foreigner in some place it's because they are afraid of explaining the system to people who don't speak Japanese. Not because they hate foreigner or want to punish them.
Most Japanese worship western ideal of beauty and what is cool.
Also citizen here is based on ethnicity, not civil. Japan and Korea has long history. We do not have many immigrant. Even till now. We do not have bourgeois revolution. Even till now. That's why.
Sixiang
1st July 2012, 23:58
Some 1920s Japanese anarchist also wanted to preserve the Emperor for some obscure reason. I think it was Hatta Shuzo, not sure about that though.
That's probably linked to the deep cultural influence of Shinto upon Japan. In Shinto religion, the emperor is a descendant of the first warlord to unify Japan and thus is a descendant of the sun goddess, Amaterasu, who is like "god of gods" in it. When Japan industrialized and there was the Meiji Revolution, the Tokugawa Shogunate was quickly dissolved because lower ranking samurai and military officers thought the Shogun and upper samurai were capitulating to the Westerners. Their battle cry was "Death to the Westerners, long live the Emperor." And during the WWII-era of Fascist imperialism, the military leaders (the real rulers of Japan, at that point the emperor was a figurehead) always claimed that what they were doing was in the interests of the Emperor, and thus in the interests of all Japanese, the emperor's "children." It's not too surprising that an anarchist form the 1920's would say something like that. The Japanese emperor had for centuries held no political power and was merely a figurative ruler while the daimyo samurai and the shogun held all de facto power.
Actually most people are not voting. It's kind of joke here. But these people are joining for actual membership in JCP.
Mayors of Tokyo and Osaka do not say like "I am fascist" but their policies speak for themselves. Mayor of Osaka is currently doing purge of people with tattoo and says democracy is not right system for Japanese people. Mayor of Japan is obsessed with discussing who is even and isn't "real Japanese race." You can guess his intention for people who are not "real Japanese race."
This is important for everyone since Tokyo is biggest city in world.
I've read and heard extensively about the ongoing persecution of Koreans, Taiwanese, Ainu, and Ryukyu peoples in Japan. The Japanese government had been proclaiming for over a century that it is an ethnically homogeneous state, despite importing laborers from neighboring East Asian countries extensively. Of course, none of these people can become Japanese citizens unless they renounce their old culture, take on a Japanese name and become culturally "Japanese."
Prometeo liberado
2nd July 2012, 00:02
Strange thing is that here no one knows he is called Hirohito. If you try to talk about "Hirohito" they don't know who you are talking :lol: We don't call emperor by his name.
We kinda go back a bit so it's cool that I do it. Maybe y'all should start as it would de-mystify his persona. A man is just a man. And his thievery is still thievery, willed by the Gods or not.
Raúl Duke
2nd July 2012, 00:13
Konnichiwa
Yokoso to revleft.
How are things in Japan?
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 00:29
Lately it is rainy.
PC LOAD LETTER
2nd July 2012, 05:17
Welcome! :)
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 07:42
どこに住んでいるのですか?
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 15:16
I have too many correspondence here already, so soon! I must keep up!
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 15:19
Siembra: I am 連合. I'm sure you are aware.
I visited with Occupy Tokyo but it was not success.
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 15:45
I think you know 連合 is pretty fake union. There is not really a union in Japan nowadays in traditional sense for communist. After all, can we admit it was actually brought about from Americans during occupation as a way to migrate workers? How can we expect something from kind of "workers organization" introduced by America of all place!! haha
No one in my job cares about. Really.
Nukes are clearly the only choice for human society in this time. I think it's clear for anyone who is not insane. Unfortunately, they have scared everyone because they put profit first. People confused nuclear power for profit. It would be okay under workers rule. I don't make this conversation usually, because so many people are really insane about it. They are telling me about how much they hate this electricity while using phone, player, hair dryer and more.
So, the plants are back up. Two at least I hear. They need to light up the signs to sell their commodities! :rolleyes:
shinjuku dori
2nd July 2012, 15:53
このような公共の場でわたしのプライベートなことをあまり話したくはありません。少し不用心な気がします。 Please understand.
Tim Cornelis
2nd July 2012, 18:57
I know meaning of fascism. We had good experience with it here if you remember. I can see these mayors are belonging to same path.
Just because your country was ruled by a fascist government does not make you an authority on fascism though. Half the world was ruled by a fascist government for some time, including 'mine'.
And I don't really think "racism" is problem against white Americans. You are talking about English teacher. They come to Korea or Japan just like temporary job to make lot of money. They don't care about education or student. They don't care about country. They don't learn local language or even try. They get drunk and do a lot of generally bad thing. That is why they are not liked.
This sound like xenophobic prejudice to be honest.
Kotze
2nd July 2012, 20:05
^
It's not xenophobic prejudice to avoid talking with people you don't share a language with.
Tim Cornelis
2nd July 2012, 20:53
^
It's not xenophobic prejudice to avoid talking with people you don't share a language with.
Don't be so childish, you know about what I'm talking about.
You are talking about English teacher. They come to Korea or Japan just like temporary job to make lot of money. They don't care about education or student. They don't care about country. They don't learn local language or even try. They get drunk and do a lot of generally bad thing.
If someone said this about Mexican, Moroccan, or Polish foreign workers, it would undoubtedly be considered xenophobic.
From wikipedia:
Koreans tend to equate nationality or citizenship with membership in a single, homogeneous ethnic group or "race" (minjok, in Korean). Discrimination and ostracism of biracial children is ubiquitous in Korean society.[42] A common language and culture also are viewed as important elements in Korean identity. Both North Korea and South Korea are among the world's most ethnically homogeneous nations. South Korean schools have been criticised for hiring only white teachers who apply to teach English, because Koreans regard fair skin color as representative of "American" or "English"-ness.[43] ...
South Korea has only granted refugee status to 60 people in its entire history. In comparison, South Africa has accepted over 35,000 refugees.[44]
Racism and hostility towards English teachers is a central theme of David S. Wills' controversial 2011 novel, The Dog Farm.[45]
citizen of industry
2nd July 2012, 21:01
Actually the English teachers in Japan are often Asian, Russian, etc. and not only from western countries. If you think they make a lot of money you are fooled. They are usually on crap gyomu itaku or haken contracts so their employers can avoid labor standards law and fire them easily. I'd say they make on average 220,000¥/month and that's two jobs. They are forbidden from speaking Japnese in the workplace so they don't have a lot of opportunity to speak the language. The whole drunk en western English teacher making a lot of money and not respecting the culture is a racist stereotype. We organize a lot of foreign workers in the language industry. They have awful working conditions and make a lot of money for Japanese companies. Many of them speak the language and have family in Japan. Good god, you sound like Ishihara. If we are going to put them to a Marxian analysis:
Marx A schoolmaster is a productive labourer, when, in addition to belabouring the heads of his scholars, he works like a horse to enrich the school proprieter. That the latter has laid out his capital in a teaching factory, instead of a sausage factory, does not alter the relation.
xenophobia only divides the working class.
citizen of industry
2nd July 2012, 21:12
How about provisional release for refugees, if we're talking about immigrant rights? Have you seen the detebtion center in Shinagawa. It's a prison. If they do let them out while they are reviewing their status they don't allow them working visas. How are they supposed to eat?
What do you think of the new zairyu card system, where you have to report to immigration within 14 days of a job dismissal? It takes years to fight a dismissal in the labor commission. What do you think of the clause that immigrants can lose their visa and be deported if tey don't "do their spousal duties" for 6 months?
I know a black guy who was bike checked by the cops 14 times in one month. How many times have you been stopped and had your bike checked?
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 00:13
Boo hoo, white Americans are suffering "racism". It's so bad, they cannot even enter sexual massage shop!:crying: Excuse me while I clean my eyes.
America is racist hellfire. No white people here was lynched. No white people was made to pick cotton. They can use same water fountain, hotel room and subway. Oh no, maybe girl don't want to date drunken teacher because he cannot speak a word of Japanese.
Please get over.
Actual problem here is mostly for people like Korean, Ainu. They may even look same as Japanese, so they don't even say real reality sometime.
Few American teacher is nothing like Mehican going to America. There is no mass campaign, no desperation. These are some few kids trying to make quick buck. They don't care.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 00:14
How many times have you been stopped and had your bike checked?
I don't have a bike. I am an adult.
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 00:41
Boo hoo, white Americans are suffering "racism". It's so bad, they cannot even enter sexual massage shop!:crying: Excuse me while I clean my eyes.
America is racist hellfire. No white people here was lynched. No white people was made to pick cotton. They can use same water fountain, hotel room and subway. Oh no, maybe girl don't want to date drunken teacher because he cannot speak a word of Japanese.
Please get over.
Actual problem here is mostly for people like Korean, Ainu. They may even look same as Japanese, so they don't even say real reality sometime.
Few American teacher is nothing like Mehican going to America. There is no mass campaign, no desperation. These are some few kids trying to make quick buck. They don't care.
Are you a troll, dude? Kids trying to make a quick buck? Most of them are parents trying to feed their kids. Did you hear about the 2008 Berlitz strikes? They launched over 1,000 strikes before the company sued the union leaders. The company claimed the strikes hurt business because the strikers didn't give enough notice. Fortunately, Tokyo District court ruled in favor of the union this year. If they had ruled in favor of Berlitz, all unions in Japan would have had to give long notices of when they would strike, giving the companies time to prepare scabs.
The problem isn't racism against whites in Japan. It's your odd blend of xenophobia and nationalism which is un-Marxist.
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 00:44
I don't have a bike. I am an adult.
It's Japan bro. Everyone has a bike. Either you aren't living in Tokyo or your petit-bourgeoisie ass is wealthy enough to have an apartment close to the station or a car with the hefty inspection payments.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 00:48
Are you crazy?
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 01:32
Are you crazy?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlitz_Japan_2007%E2%80%932008_Strike
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 01:36
http://en.internationalism.org/2008/09/japan-1968
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 04:28
http://en.internationalism.org/2008/09/japan-1968
What is your point with the article? How does this reinforce your stereotype that English teachers are making lots of money and having a bunch of drunken fun?
I can easily demonstrate that many of them have families in Japan and speak the language, are here to stay, work long hours at substandard pay, are irregular workers with no job security, no paid vacations, no health insurance etc.
The rhetoric you are spouting is the same as the uyoku dantai fascist crap and the mayors of Tokyo and Osaka.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 04:32
お前は日本人なのか?何言ってんだよ。お前の立場じゃ何も言えないだろ。
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 04:38
お前は日本人なのか?何言ってんだよ。お前の立場じゃ何も言えないだろ。
So because I'm not Japanese, therefore I'm a second-class citizen in your eyes and don't have rights and can't talk? That is a nationalist position.
I'm not saying foreigners have it worse than Japanese workers. Half the damn workforce is irregularly employed. But they certainly don't have it any better.
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 04:45
We do not have bourgeois revolution.So which class is the ruling class in Japan these days?
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 04:48
もしあなたが自分の言っていることを理解しているなら発言してもいいけど、もしそうでないなら何も言うべき ではないでしょう。何も言わない方が賢いと思います。
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 04:55
何も言わない方が賢いと思います。I think that we'd all be smarter if you didn't say anything:laugh:
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:04
黙ってもらえますか?:confused:
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:09
So which class is the ruling class in Japan these days?
We have bourgeoisie, but there was no revolution. It was too late. It was kind of formation in group with emperor and warrior who saw that feudalism was doomed.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:10
スターリンの写真が家に何枚ありますか?
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 05:19
スターリンの写真が家に何枚ありますか?
Silly, silly, silly. Don't result to childish accusations. Refute the argument. Stalin pics on my walls, bro? Seriously...
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:24
革新主義の. 一緒にピンサロに行ってリラックスして、話し合おうよ。なんで僕達はケンカしてんの?こんなのばかげてるよ 。:cool:
Danielle Ni Dhighe
3rd July 2012, 05:26
shinjuku dori seems to be trolling every thread he posts to, even his introductory thread.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:28
So how I made many friend?
citizen of industry
3rd July 2012, 05:28
革新主義の. 一緒にピンサロに行ってリラックスして、話し合おうよ。なんで僕達はケンカしてんの?こんなのばかげてるよ 。:cool:
Who's angry? Just killing time on my commute. Don't read too much into it. Just pointing out where your class analysis and racial stereotype is wrong.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:34
You're replying long time. Where you commuting too? Hawaii? Long distance.:)
Danielle Ni Dhighe
3rd July 2012, 05:40
So how I made many friend?
What, all two of them? :rolleyes:
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:43
Not large enough to enter your gang in Ireland? How is your policing going? Kill any criminals lately?
Danielle Ni Dhighe
3rd July 2012, 05:48
Not large enough to enter your gang in Ireland? How is your policing going? Kill any criminals lately?
Maybe your two friends can help you come up with better jibes. :laugh:
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 05:52
http://www.cleavelin.net/archives001/GoBehindYourBack.jpg
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 14:48
We have bourgeoisie, but there was no revolution. It was too late. It was kind of formation in group with emperor and warrior who saw that feudalism was doomed.I was under the impression that the warrior caste was 'modernized' (regimented and subordinated more directly to the state) during the Meiji period. Such policies (Peter in Russia for example) are generally implemented by a state operating from another sort of power base. A warrior nobility doesn't just go and 'modernize' itself, now does it?
In fact to my eye, the Meiji era reforms look a great deal like the sorts of measures that were prerequisite towards remaking a feudal state into a bourgeois state.
I mean England didn't have a 'bourgeois revolution' per se either, right? What fundamental difference between British and say... French capitalism arises from this? What exactly is the big deal here?
Jimmie Higgins
3rd July 2012, 14:54
I was under the impression that the warrior caste was 'modernized' (regimented and subordinated more directly to the state) during the Meiji period. Such policies (Peter in Russia for example) are generally implemented by a state operating from another sort of power base. A warrior nobility doesn't just go and 'modernize' itself, now does it?I'm not too familiar with this history, but my understanding was that they did "modernize themselves" but this is in the context of emerging Industrial capitalism in the world and European/US imperialism in the Pacific. They modernized themselves as opposed to the negative lesson of what happened in China. Can't beat em, join em.
Other countries had similar processes after capitalism had taken root and become successful in parts of Europe.
I mean England didn't have a 'bourgeois revolution' per se either, right? What fundamental difference between British and say... French capitalism arises from this? What exactly is the big deal here?Sure they had a revolution - it just wasn't as "mature" as the French revolution and took place over a longer period of time.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 16:37
Better English to explain from Jinnie. Thanks.
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 16:42
In my view, the Meiji period constituted the beginning of a bourgeois revolution that is now quite complete.
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 16:59
Please show me where was revolution. And explain what revolution is.
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 17:15
As I understand it, the political process that established the bourgeoisie as the ruling class (or in other words, 'bourgeois revolution') of Japan began with the Meiji Restoration, which began the social, political and economic upheavals that forged Japan as an industrial economy and imperialist power in the 19th century.
In fact, I dare say that Japan's bourgeois revolution might be even easier to pinpoint and categorize than England's.
What is then your definition of a bourgeois revolution?
shinjuku dori
3rd July 2012, 17:33
I am living here, so take my words. Bud: Meiji Ishin was carried on by warriors working with emperor to step up to challenge of western imperialism. Vanquished feudal lords into the ocean. But wasn't bourgeoisie who does this.
Comrade Trollface
3rd July 2012, 17:37
What is then your definition of a bourgeois revolution? The Meiji Restoration created the material conditions for the bourgeoisie to become the ruling class of Japan.
shinjuku dori
4th July 2012, 01:35
Bourgeois revolution not carried out by bourgeois? Where was bourgeois reform? There wasn't. Feudal land was cut up by American occupation. Family of power became owner of corporation. No democracy.
Lenina Rosenweg
4th July 2012, 01:45
Wasn't the Meiji Restoration a sort of halfway bourgeois revolution carried out by elements of the landed aristocracy by using the warrior nobility? There were stages in The MR when the old samurais rebelled against the new semi-bourgeois ruling class they had helped bring to power.
Japan was also an odd (but maybe not unique) feudal/capitalist hybrid and, as shinjuku said, remained so until the US occupation.
What sort of bourgeois state culminates in worshiping their essentially figurehead emperor as a god, converts a nature worshiping religion into a militaristic death cult, and treated much of the peasantry not too different from serfs?
shinjuku dori
4th July 2012, 01:54
Good English sir.
magicme
4th July 2012, 01:57
Hello from England. I got like three replies when i introduced myself, you is super popular.
shinjuku dori
4th July 2012, 02:00
Imperialist running dogs chase bones! :)
Comrade Trollface
4th July 2012, 17:01
and treated much of the peasantry not too different from serfs?Sort of like slavery in the US? Not to mention the systems of social/economic control imposed on the 'free' black sharecropper population after emancipation. Early capitalism is far from incompatible with slavery/serfdom, and though Japan was far from a bourgeois republic, slavery/serfdom has been shown to not be wholly incompatible with bourgeois representative government.
Mind you, I'm not saying a fully-formed factory-sealed bourgeois state emerged from the Meiji period. I'm simply stating that the Meiji reforms might be said to constitute the beginnings of a series of upheavals that culminated in a bourgeois state. Or the beginnings of a bourgeois revolution. That revolution is now obviously complete, with the bourgeois firmly established as the ruling class of Japan.
TheRedJew
4th July 2012, 17:04
welcome
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