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ВАЛТЕР
26th June 2012, 13:10
What the fuck? How in the hell can anyone view this as being reasonable?

http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-alcohol-death-penalty/24625625.html


Two Iranians have been sentenced to death for drinking alcohol.

The ISNA news agency, in a report published in the "Donya-E-Eqtesad" daily, quotes Hassan Shariati, the judiciary chief of northeastern Khorasan-e Razavi Province, as saying the two people -- who are unidentified -- were repeat offenders.

They had previously been convicted of drinking alcohol twice and lashed 80 times each.

Shariati said the death penalty for the third conviction had been upheld by Iran's Supreme Court.

"We will not show mercy in alcoholic beverage offenses," he said, "and we will sentence the offenders to the harshest letter of the law.”

Executions for violations of Iran's alcohol laws are believed to be rare, however.

Iran's "Shargh" daily reports that the last time an execution was ordered for a repeat offender of the country's alcohol laws, in 2007, the sentence was overturned after the convict expressed contrition.

Since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, under Shari'a law, alcohol consumption has been strictly forbidden in Iran. That hasn't stopped the smuggling of a reported 60 million to 80 million liters of alcohol into the country each year, however.

Alcohol is readily available on the black market, despite the severe penalties.

Iran's police chief, Esmail Ahmadi Moghadam, is quoted as saying that Iran has some 200,000 alcoholics.

Only members of Iran's Christian minorities are exempt from alcohol laws, but they are required to drink behind closed doors.

As RFE/RL's Golnaz Esfandiari and Mohammad Zarghami reported last week (http://www.rferl.org/content/iran-alcohol-abuse-on-the-rise/24617070.html), consumption of alcohol is on the rise in Iran, with the amount of confiscated alcohol increasing by 69 percent in the past year:

Mostafa Eghlima, the head of Iran’s Social Work Society, suggests that drinking alcohol is a means of escape for some Iranians.

"Alcoholic drinks are just one type of tranquilizer," he says. "We live in a society where there is economic pressure, social problems, and high inflation. People escape with alcohol to alleviate the pain.”

The head of the Health Ministry's Policy Making Council, Bagher Larijani, warned last month about "worrying" reports from hospitals and physicians over high alcohol consumption in southern districts of Tehran where poorer families reside.

Other crimes punishable by death in Iran are murder, rape, armed robbery, and drugs trafficking (http://www.rferl.org/content/iran_executions_drug_traffickers/24572503.html).

According to Amnesty International, Iran executed at least 360 people in 2011, most of them for drug-related offenses.

Blanquist
26th June 2012, 13:28
I read some Sri-Lankan woman was given the death penalty for 'sorcery' in Saudi Arabia.

Some Saudi woman claimed she put a spell on her.

Crazy world we live in.

EDIT: why do you highlight drug trafficking? the death penalty applies for that in many countries, and a life sentence in most countries.

ВАЛТЕР
26th June 2012, 13:33
I read some Sri-Lankan woman was given the death penalty for 'sorcery' in Saudi Arabia.

Some Saudi woman claimed she put a spell on her.

Crazy world we live in.

EDIT: why do you highlight drug trafficking? the death penalty applies for that in many countries, and a life sentence in most countries.


I didn't highlight it, I just copied it from the source and it is a link to another story.

Blanquist
26th June 2012, 13:41
I didn't highlight it, I just copied it from the source and it is a link to another story.

I see.

MuscularTophFan
26th June 2012, 16:25
Hm hm hm got to love religioustards.

hashem
26th June 2012, 18:04
How in the hell can anyone view this as being reasonable?

it is "reasonable". there is an unwritten message from government of Iran in here which addresses ordinary Iranian people:

"see how brute i can be? i can easily kill anyone who violates islamic laws. so imagine what can i do to people who dare to struggle against my islamic rule."

same thing is true about mandatory hijab. police arrests any women who does not have proper islamic clothing (hijab), especially in summers.

wsg1991
26th June 2012, 18:39
it is "reasonable". there is an unwritten message from government of Iran in here which addresses ordinary Iranian people:

who violates islamic laws.

as far i remember , it's lashes penalty , not death


the best way to fight this shit , is to raise living standards , as people will no longer need their Metaphysical comfort ,

it's funny how can some religious bastards bend the original religion to serves their needs ,

Rafiq
26th June 2012, 19:48
Hang the clerics by their balls

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Princess Luna
27th June 2012, 00:04
I am surprised that Christians in Iran are allowed to drink alcohol

MuscularTophFan
27th June 2012, 00:17
I am surprised that Christians in Iran are allowed to drink alcohol
Yet for some reason all women are forced to wear hijabs all the fucking time regardless of whether they are part of Islam or not.

~Spectre
27th June 2012, 01:25
As I understand it, a large part of the Iranian youth drink in Tehran. Restaurants serve the alcohol mixed with soda to keep things from being too blatant.

Anarcho-Brocialist
27th June 2012, 01:38
Yet for some reason all women are forced to wear hijabs all the fucking time regardless of whether they are part of Islam or not.I see you responded to a post about Christians being able to drink. So, I'll give this quote about why Christian/Jewish women must cover their heads.

For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered. 1 Corinthians 11:6

The Red Hammer and Sickle
27th June 2012, 02:40
That Bible verse is out of context actually. That only applies to women who are profets.


But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. (1 Corinthians 11:5, 6 NIV)

Sir Comradical
27th June 2012, 10:17
This mullah problem can only be solved with guns, ammo, and excavators. Problem solved.

I thought it was legal to drink so long as it was at home?

hashem
27th June 2012, 14:05
I am surprised that Christians in Iran are allowed to drink alcohol

this is not true. there is no difference between a muslim and a non muslim who drinks alcohol in Iran.

hashem
27th June 2012, 14:17
as far i remember , it's lashes penalty , not death


the best way to fight this shit , is to raise living standards , as people will no longer need their Metaphysical comfort ,

it's funny how can some religious bastards bend the original religion to serves their needs ,

living standards cant automatically determine how religious people are. in Arabia living standards are much higher than Iran but people of Arabia are more religious.

Iranian people are not very religious, in fact they may be the most secular nation in middle east.

there is nothing funny about how the ruling class uses religion for its own purpose. that is what religion is for.

danyboy27
27th June 2012, 14:23
This mullah problem can only be solved with guns, ammo, and excavators. Problem solved.

I thought it was legal to drink so long as it was at home?

Sheer repression never did the trick to suppress religion.

Krano
27th June 2012, 14:54
Sheer repression never did the trick to suppress religion.
60% of the Soviet Union was Atheist so kind of, not in the long term of course now the Orthodox church has state power in Russia.

Rafiq
27th June 2012, 15:32
Sheer repression never did the trick to suppress religion.

It did in Russia. Repressing clerics is necessary.

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Sir Comradical
28th June 2012, 01:20
Sheer repression never did the trick to suppress religion.

Well the assembly that elects Iran's supreme leader is 80-90 mullahs so it wouldn't be a huge massacre.

ed miliband
28th June 2012, 01:31
alcoholics unite!

electrostal
28th June 2012, 01:33
There's be a thousand new mullahs to take their place, and ten thousand after them.... :rolleyes:

The Intransigent Faction
29th June 2012, 01:37
Hm hm hm got to love religioustards.

I'll drink to that!

Zostrianos
29th June 2012, 01:48
I am surprised that Christians in Iran are allowed to drink alcohol

I don't know about that, but religious minorities in Iran (Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians) do (surprisingly) have certain privileges, and they're allowed to formulate some of their own laws in their communities. Apparently, since Iran is preponderantly Muslim, the authorities don't view religious minorities as a threat and so have relaxed their control on them.

hashem
30th June 2012, 15:46
I don't know about that, but religious minorities in Iran (Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians) do (surprisingly) have certain privileges

no body (muslim or non muslim) is allowed to drink alcolic drinks in Iran.

religious minorities dont have any "privileges" either. on the contray, they are suppressed. they are not even allowed to marry with a muslim. they are banned from political posts and are not allowed to have more than one (2 for armenians) representative in Irans so called "parliament".

plus, only Jews, Christians and Zoroastrians are recognised by law as "minorities", others like Bahais have absolutely no right in Iran. they are forbidden from universities and the government provokes pogroms against them.