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Workers-Control-Over-Prod
21st June 2012, 17:20
The University of Cambridge Massachusetts, which has educated many Nobel prize winner and prominent scholars, has brought forth this graph.

Notice: The estimated world Industrial Production collapse is similar to my estimates here for the USA (http://www.revleft.com/vb/failure-capitalist-production-t172018/index.html?t=172018) but taking in account the other developing nations like China, India etc. that need to first reach the productive force levels of the west; in all likelihood low wage, cheap products producing, developing countries are going to maybe hold on a few months after western capitalism collapses, but will also crash once they have reached western levels of productive forces. China will most likely see its housing bubble and banks fall around 2015, there is already a deflationary spiral in the Chinese housing market the last two months.

The reason for this global recession and inevitable collapse of western Imperialism and then global capitalism, is clear: the Falling Rate of Profit. As machines replace live exploitable labour, the rate of profit falls (as the source of profit is the worker) and the production process becomes unprofitable for capital to invest in. There are many empirical signs of this, here (http://www.revleft.com/vb/usa-industrial-production-t171981/index.html?t=171981) are some statistics from the Federal Reserve showing clearly that the economic sectors which use more machinery are less utilised than the crude economic sectors.

Catma
21st June 2012, 18:33
Do you have another link to the image? It's kinda blurry. Also the source material that it's produced from would be cool.

Mr. Natural
22nd June 2012, 16:36
Workers-Control-Over-Production, Thanks for an interesting thread. I see the Marxist theory of capitalism's Falling Rate of Profit is a major interest of yours, and I invite comrades to read the linked thread on this you provided.

I rely on comrades who are better informed than myself when it comes to Marxist economics. It seems clear to me, though, that capitalism is in its endgame and can no longer manufacture the relentlessly escalating profit necessary to its existence.

This becomes the human endgame, though, in the absence of any popular recognition that capitalism is the root problem or any revolutionary organizing theory from the left. So I would agree in a sense with La Comedie Noire in that previous thread: "I think what we are going to see is starvation in the third world and stagnation in the first world." However, I see this first world "stagnation" as being represented by some sort of horrific Orwellian 1984 scenario in which a thoroughly surveilled, controlled first world population engages in permanent war against a starving, "terrorist" third world.

This won't last long, though, for we will be headed into extinction or a New Stone Age on a devastated planet.

Whoooeee! It's time to learn to organize, isn't it? The new sciences of the organizational relations and "rules" of life and community show the way, but ....

My red-green best.

Workers-Control-Over-Prod
23rd June 2012, 22:45
Do you have another link to the image? It's kinda blurry. Also the source material that it's produced from would be cool.

Sorry, i don't, i get these statistics from a email-sharing membership of other comrades, so the pictures often just circulate with a short description of the source of the statistic and its relevance. This statistic is from the University of Cambridge Massachusetts, so i assume they got the picture from their website or video.