Why is this site a .com?

[Skyhilist]

Seems kind of ironic that a site called "revleft" would be a .com sight and allow advertising by large corporations. Does this seem a little hypocritical to anyone else? I don't know, maybe they just need funding or whatever. Just seems a little odd to me.

[Deicide]

Does this seem a little hypocritical

Being a communist/anarchist/etc is not a lifestyle.

Look at Engels, he was big bourgeois.

[X5N]

.com stands for communism. :D

[Krano]

Last i checked we were still living in a Capitalist system, im pretty sure if enough donations came from the users the ads would be pulled.

[Sasha]

If it makes you feel better you can also use revleft.org

[Skyhilist]

@Krano That makes sense to some extent. It just seems odd... I mean there are plenty of strictly non-commercial .org sites with a lot less financial support that are able to stay up and running with no problem despite their large size. I mean if they're going to advertise, seems like they could at least allow small business advertising rather than advertising from large exploitative corporations like the makers of Bounty and providers of Nationwide Insurance, both of which I've seen advertised on this site.

[Prometeo liberado]

Wow! I never noticed it! For real? I thought that these sites just paid for themselves through sheer knowledge,wits and my good looks. Good lookin out comrade I'll get on this ASAP.

[Igor]

Wow! I never noticed it! For real? I thought that these sites just paid for themselves through sheer knowledge,wits and my good looks. Good lookin out comrade I'll get on this ASAP.

yeah amateur porn site consisting of left-wing activists would mean pretty mad cash

[Skyhilist]

Look, I'm not saying sites like this will "pay for themselves." I'm saying advertising from some of the largest, most exploitative corporations on a site that claims to represent the revolutionary left shouldn't be acceptable. I understand we live in a capital world. Having said that, if they absolutely need to advertise and have no way around it, then why do they do it with some of the more exploitative companies that they seem to be against. This site may be better than most, but that shouldn't make it above questioning.

[Althusser]

Eh, who cares? I don't think anyone here is going to buy whatever the ads advertise anyway. If the people running this site are getting paid... so what. If any "large corporation" is dumb enough to advertise its product here, let it.

[Sasha]

A site this big and with so much traffic needs substanial funds every month, both running on pure donations and "leftist" advertising have been tried repeatedly and always after about a month edelweiss, cotr and 1 or 2 other admins got stuck with donating cash for 99% of the bill.
If you don't like it you can somewhere else (or install a certain ad-on) but the adverts are staying.
And note, the ads here are placed by Google we have almost no controll over who advertises so go ***** at google for their faulty algorithemes if banks or the Israeli government starts advertising here.

[Skyhilist]

Eh, who cares? I don't think anyone here is going to buy whatever the ads advertise anyway. If the people running this site are getting paid... so what. If any "large corporation" is dumb enough to advertise its product here, let it.

I mean... I'm not majorly pissed off about it or anything. It just seems kind of peculiar to me.

[Skyhilist]

A site this big and with so much traffic needs substanial funds every month, both running on pure donations and "leftist" advertising have been tried repeatedly and always after about a month edelweiss, cotr and 1 or 2 other admins got stuck with donating cash for 99% of the bill.
If you don't like it you can somewhere else (or install a certain ad-on) but the adverts are staying.
And note, the ads here are placed by Google we have almost no controll over who advertises so go ***** at google for their faulty algorithemes if banks or the Israeli government starts advertising here.

Sorry, I didn't know you couldn't control who the advertisers are. Wasn't really trying to "*****" as much as I was simply trying to question the way things are is all.

[Althusser]

I mean... I'm not majorly pissed off about it or anything. It just seems kind of peculiar to me.

That's fair.

[Althusser]

If I use that certain "ad-on" here, will it reduce the amount of money this site gets for its advertising? I'd be glad to disable it for this website. I mostly only use it to skip youtube adverts.

I was on another forum site, and the admin said not to use ad-block, so I'm wondering if it matters at all here.

[RedCloud]

I mean... I'm not majorly pissed off about it or anything. It just seems kind of peculiar to me.

Haha, yeah I got the same irony out of it.
Probably because .com is more common and most people just type .com out of habit even if they know subconsciously that a site is a .net or .org.

... Revleft has sold out to the capitalists! :O :laugh:
JK, JK. :D

[Sasha]

If I use that certain "ad-on" here, will it reduce the amount of money this site gets for its advertising? I'd be glad to disable it for this website. I mostly only use it to skip youtube adverts.

I was on another forum site, and the admin said not to use ad-block, so I'm wondering if it matters at all here.

Technically it does but funny enough I believe it is so that the amount of unique ip's is what brings in ad revenue, our amount of active users is dwarfed by one time guests ending up here on a Google search so using the ad-on or not will probably have a insignificant impact

[Althusser]

Makes sense. After ending up on this website on three different unrelated occasions, I decided to join.

[Comrade Samuel]

yeah amateur porn site consisting of left-wing activists would mean pretty mad cash

Oh yeah and we can call it "red tube" :D

[Permanent Revolutionary]

Ba-dum-tsss.

No seriously, what we have to accept is, that we are working in a capitalist system, which means that we sometimes have to work under the capitalist rules. No biggie.

[PC LOAD LETTER]

Look, I'm not saying sites like this will "pay for themselves." I'm saying advertising from some of the largest, most exploitative corporations on a site that claims to represent the revolutionary left shouldn't be acceptable. I understand we live in a capital world. Having said that, if they absolutely need to advertise and have no way around it, then why do they do it with some of the more exploitative companies that they seem to be against. This site may be better than most, but that shouldn't make it above questioning.
Unless you're running a massive web site with tens of thousands of visitors a day at the very least who can attract advertisers to pay you to run specific ads, you generally join an ad network. Google is the most popular at this point in time.

Advertisers join an ad network as well; they pay the central authority X amount to run an ad X times on X web sites. They don't choose what web sites the ads are placed on.

In ad networks, like Google Adsense, you have essentially no control over the content of the ads or who they're from. Google will try to use keywords and categories you provided and analyze the web site content to deliver targeted advertising, but this is really just guesswork. Either way, the site owners have no control.

In the past we've seen entertaining ads such as from the Tea Party. Take solace in the idea that these people who you hate so much are paying for the operation of this web site. It's like you're stealing from them, a few dollars at a time. I can imagine what the reactions of the people funding the Tea Party's ads would be if they found out they were funding a communist forum...

Google uses both Cost-Per-Click (CPC) and Cost-Per-1000-Impressions (CPM), so you get paid even if there are no clicks. But clicks are generally worth more.

[edit]
Also, nobody has cared about the specific uses of ".com" ".net" and ".org" for the last 15 years. It's not legally binding for a .com domain name to be for-profit, and it never has. It's advantageous to use a ".com" because that's the first domain most people try.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

.com ......
Big fucking Deal :rolleyes:

[RedCloud]

Ba-dum-tsss.

No seriously, what we have to accept is, that we are working in a capitalist system, which means that we sometimes have to work under the capitalist rules. No biggie.

Though we don't need to have a .com. It could easily be transferred to a .net domain or a .org or something.
As I said earlier, .com are supposed to be a commercial TLD extension, but who really follows that anymore? They seem to just be most memorable and common TLDs. Really nothing to worry over.

[Prometeo liberado]

Oh! However you feel about the situation fork over some cash. :)

[Firebrand]

I think its fantastic that we have suceeded in conning big business into paying for its own destruction. Re-distribution of wealth my friends, they are paying for us to plot against them.

[Lucretia]

Seems kind of ironic that a site called "revleft" would be a .com sight and allow advertising by large corporations. Does this seem a little hypocritical to anyone else? I don't know, maybe they just need funding or whatever. Just seems a little odd to me.

Yes. After all, the only way to be a consistent communist is not to shop at for-profit businesses for anything, to live off the land in a state of bucolic bliss, having single-handedly eliminated the social division of labor for yourself (you sew your own clothes, raise and cook all your own food/livestock, generate your own heat, etc.).