Game of Thrones [Archive]

Os Cangaceiros

8th June 2012, 05:07

I hadn't seen this at all until about a week or so ago, when a friend of mine brought out the entire first season. I've watched seven or eight episodes so far, and it's a really good show, definitely one of the best TV series I've seen. And I usually don't like fantasy or "period" shows.

Lena Headey is awesome in that show with her permanently cocked eyebrow and ruthless determination. Oh, and incest.

Opinions on the show?

Jimmie Higgins

8th June 2012, 05:51

Yeah my partner read the books and was all excited about the show. I didn't have much expectations and watched it at first as a mildly interesting show with good acting and production values... but I was pretty hooked by the end of the first season.

The second year is much better still and I think it's become the show I most look forward to.

Thank you file sharing for Game of Thrones and The Wire and True Blood.:lol:

Igor

8th June 2012, 05:53

I'm pretty excited about when the third book hits TV, there's all kind of interesting shit going on. Done well, it could easily be the best season so far.

Ele'ill

8th June 2012, 05:55

The acting can be pretty flat at times and goes on to leave several of the characters holding the show up in my opinion- although it can be said that it was like this in the books too cause the chapters in the books are each character specific with some of these chapters being pretty boring or seemingly meaningless to the plot. The film/filters the director used can be bland but it's offset by the brutality of the scenes and offers a nice contrast. The books are extremely violent in an unrelenting kind of way and I'd like to see more of this anti high fantasy style get carried over into the TV series. Some of the characters are slightly different but I lucked out I guess cause my favorite characters so far are well acted and dead on to who they are in the books.

Deicide

8th June 2012, 06:00

It's great, I watched the second seasons finale not that long ago. It is quite different from the books.

The dwarf is the most interesting character by far.

jookyle

8th June 2012, 06:16

I don't think any show has ever made millions of people want to hit a child so bad.

Igor

8th June 2012, 06:24

I don't think any show has ever made millions of people want to hit a child so bad.

Fortunately, we get to see more than enough of this in the show.

pluckedflowers

8th June 2012, 07:17

Fortunately, we get to see more than enough of this in the show.

But is it really enough?

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bricolage

8th June 2012, 11:33

books and show are both great.
can't wait for the dornish to get on tv.

Sasha

8th June 2012, 13:14

GiantMonkeyMan

8th June 2012, 15:16

Love the series, love the books.. even though this is the best and most truthful review i have seen till now; http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/horse-jerky-and-sandcamels/Content?oid=9230088 (mild spoilery warning if you dint read all the books yet)
Lol, the opening paragraph of that review basically sums up a conversation I had with a mate about the books the other day. I fucking love books with maps at the beginning. :lol:

Permanent Revolutionary

8th June 2012, 15:36

I was a bit disappointed by the second season, to be honest. I felt like they left a lot out, and made some very silly changes.

But judgement should be reserved for until the series is over, i.e 6-7 years.

TheRedAnarchist23

8th June 2012, 15:58

A lot of people have told me it was good, I should try it out.

Also, remember to read comrade Stalin's speaches!:D

bricolage

8th June 2012, 16:06

I was a bit disappointed by the second season, to be honest. I felt like they left a lot out, and made some very silly changes.
I think in general the changes worked and you have to accept it as a TV adaptation and not a literal retelling, a lot of the stuff that is explained through character thoughts and such had to be done in another way and they had to shif things about to do that. I think the Danaerys and Jon Snow storylines were probably the worst done but I won't say too much in case people reading this haven't read the books. I would say that the Blackwater episode was probably the best of the two series, if only for "anyone dies with a clean sword and I'll rape their fucking corpse"!

28350

8th June 2012, 16:42

it's a bit like breaking bad in that everyone is a shit. personalities aside, what does everyone do? get their troops to kill and die. so i find it a little hard to "root for" anybody.

Bronco

8th June 2012, 17:10

Great series, the second to last episode in season 2 (the battle one) especially was amazing

Jimmie Higgins

10th June 2012, 13:34

it's a bit like breaking bad in that everyone is a shit. personalities aside, what does everyone do? get their troops to kill and die. so i find it a little hard to "root for" anybody.That's what I kind of enjoy about it. A feudal contest in a semi-feudal/fantasy world sort of creates some dissonance because everyone's claim to ruler-ship is based on some magic or bloodline high-math. These reasons are not relateable for modern "common sense" ideas about ruler-ship in capitalism. In this way, and in it's fantasy setting, it's able to sidestep the shitty national-myths tangled up in Arthurian fantasy or even Lord of the Rings.

I think this is why Tyrion is probably the most "rootable" person in the series. His "side" is the most obviously rotten one and so people root for him without wanting his house to keep ruling, so what is it? Tyrion in the series so far games the royal system and most often calls out how much it is just a deadly game played by a bunch of morons and (literally) spoiled children. Joffery really thinks that he has some kind of divine superiority and he's the biggest fool on the show because of it, actually Theon might be, why because he really believes things work by these abstract notions of heroism and blood-ties and shit - the people who know it's just a power game tend to get the upper hand for the most part (at least in the show so far). The Dragon queen seems to be the only one rewarded for her faith (not her family faith though) so far - then again her faith is in her real material dragons, so it's a little different than faith in royal superiority.

Os Cangaceiros

11th June 2012, 06:34

I finished the first season last night.

Sean Bean should've initiated a bloody purge in the throne room when he had the chance. Big opportunity lost there.

bcbm

11th June 2012, 07:57

bets on whether george rr martin will finish the books before the tv series catches up?

Yu Ming Zai

11th June 2012, 12:24

Great show, one of the few television series that I actually watch nowadays. I am in anticipation of the third season as I heard it is the best and most interesting part of the books so I am looking forward to it next year. If there is anyone that I could root for, it would be Stannis Baratheon and Ser Davos Seaworth of House Baratheon. Wish I could see how Stannis would deal with Joffrey if Stannis took the Iron Throne.

human strike

11th June 2012, 14:02

it's a bit like breaking bad in that everyone is a shit. personalities aside, what does everyone do? get their troops to kill and die. so i find it a little hard to "root for" anybody.

Root for the crusties, I mean wildlings.

Jimmie Higgins

11th June 2012, 14:12

Root for the crusties, I mean wildlings.Yeah that's my thought too - but who knows where they're going with that at this point in the TV show. Since my partner has read all the books I have to keep my hopes and predictions about the TV show close to the chest otherwise she'll accidentally spoil it or smugly laugh to herself as I root for people who turn out to be evil.

bcbm

11th June 2012, 14:28

i only root for arya

Jimmie Higgins

11th June 2012, 17:25

I take a shot of tequila each time Daenerys says "Khaleesi", so I root for her (at least to be in more scenes). But seriously, I want to know more about the free people and root for them right now. They're the ones closest to being the voice of the audience because they seem find the houses to be as crazy as we do.

Permanent Revolutionary

11th June 2012, 20:15

bricolage

12th June 2012, 16:55

Savant

17th June 2012, 23:05

It's definitely a great show. I haven't read the books, but I did accidentally stumble onto the wiki for the books & unfortunately spoiled myself. It's best not to develop any feelings for any character considering how no character is safe & many characters die.

Rafiq

2nd July 2012, 17:19

If you finish the second season you know that beyond the wall, the organized wildlings vote for their kong, and oppose hereditory rule, slavery, etc. So yeah

Also, Khal Drogo is a scum rapist but it would be entertaining to see him invade the seven kingdoms amdhave a chat with Joffrey

Rafiq

2nd July 2012, 17:21

i only root for arya

Arya, her swordsman, the watch guy who saved her, the badass assassin who grantrd her three deaths, are all badass imo. Arya seems to associate with the coolest mofos

bricolage

2nd July 2012, 17:30

If you finish the second season you know that beyond the wall, the organized wildlings vote for their kong, and oppose hereditory rule, slavery, etc. So yeah
they reject hereditary rule but they don't vote for the king beyond the wall, it's a temporary position that someone claims based on a series of carrots and sticks. sure you have to wise and strong to unite all the free folk under your rule but it's not from some kind of democratic mechanism.

electrostal

2nd July 2012, 17:59

This is actually one of the better threads here.
Interesting. I root for self-determination of the Northern peoples under Winterfell.
I also think that Braavos might be the most progressive entity.

Rafiq

2nd July 2012, 19:18

they reject hereditary rule but they don't vote for the king beyond the wall, it's a temporary position that someone claims based on a series of carrots and sticks. sure you have to wise and strong to unite all the free folk under your rule but it's not from some kind of democratic mechanism.

I recall the wildling girl who saved Jon Snow said they choose their leaders.

Anyway, Stannis Baratheon is also really awesome. Apparently, it said in the books that he didn't tolerate rape or murder when seiging a city.

eric922

2nd July 2012, 19:34

Arya, her swordsman, the watch guy who saved her, the badass assassin who grantrd her three deaths, are all badass imo. Arya seems to associate with the coolest mofos
Trust me later on Araya gets pretty badass herself. She's one of my favorite characters in the books and the show.

eric922

2nd July 2012, 19:37

This is actually one of the better threads here.
Interesting. I root for self-determination of the Northern peoples under Winterfell.
I also think that Braavos might be the most progressive entity.
Bravvos is the only one one of the Free Cities to ban slavery. They also don't appear to be ruled by the feudal system that plagues Westeros. Though, you will find later on that the Iron Bank has a lot of influence in Bravos.

eric922

2nd July 2012, 19:39

I love the show and the books. Araya, Tyrion, and Daenerys are my favorite characters. Trust me, show fans, I know Dany is kind of dull now, but she gets a lot more interesting later on and is actually fairly progressive. I'm rooting for her to take the Iron Throne. She seems like the only one who gives a damn about the actual people.

brigadista

2nd July 2012, 19:42

my favorites are also daenerys and arya and that assassin arya hooked up with

bricolage

2nd July 2012, 19:53

I recall the wildling girl who saved Jon Snow said they choose their leaders.
I don't remember that, but in the books they certainly don't.
EDIT: actually they might choose tribal leaders but in terms of the kind beyond the wall he has to fight to earn it.

Ele'ill

2nd July 2012, 19:57

i only root for arya

arya dies

electrostal

2nd July 2012, 19:59

She seems like the only one who gives a damn about the actual people.
She was about the preside over a slaughter and rape of epic proportions. Luckily her son and husband died.

eric922

2nd July 2012, 20:09

She was about the preside over a slaughter and rape of epic proportions. Luckily her son and husband died.
Where? I remember her trying to stop as much of the rape and enslaving as she could. Trust me, Daenrys becomes much more progressive later on. I don't want to post spoilers here, but she does a lot of good. Oh you are likely referring to the invasion of Westeros, well like I said based on what he later learn of Daernys when it comes to war, I doubt she would have let rape and slaughter stand. Viserys, yes, Daenrys, no.

Os Cangaceiros

3rd July 2012, 03:00

Arya, her swordsman, the watch guy who saved her, the badass assassin who grantrd her three deaths, are all badass imo. Arya seems to associate with the coolest mofos

I liked that dude who taught her how to swordfight. "And what do we say to death? NOT TODAY!"

Rafiq

3rd July 2012, 03:06

Ya, swordsman

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bcbm

3rd July 2012, 18:28

arya dies

pfft yeah right

brigadista

16th July 2012, 19:48

new cast in series 3

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pastradamus

18th July 2012, 10:23

Love the show and the books. Its nice to have the show just to give you an idea of what the characters look like in your mind set as the names can be very confusing if you're just reading the book.

Rafiq

24th July 2012, 03:34

Until season 3, breaking bad will do.

Tim Cornelis

28th June 2014, 18:47

I thought that bloke was named Karl Drogo. I thought, that's an odd name for someone clearly not Western-designed.

Ele'ill

28th June 2014, 18:55

The acting got a lot better since I posted in this thread last. I could do without the 2-3 minute intro. Some of the costumes are still off and kind of fake. A certain recent death scene was lackluster in comparison to the book. meh

Per Levy

28th June 2014, 20:31

Ele'ill

28th June 2014, 21:27

are there any new ironborn characters in yet, like victarion or euron greyjoy? i do want to see who they choose for these roles. other than that i dont watch the show, is the daenerys story as boring as in the books(i know that is a very subjective view but i do find daenerys to be very very boring)?

yes her story-line is just as boring as in the books, i found the ironborn story-line to be boring almost to the point of being unreadable I would skip entire chapters to get away from it

Os Cangaceiros

28th June 2014, 22:06

I just finished season 2 not that long ago, fell off on this series but I'm getting back into it. I kept waiting for Daenerys Targaryen to put foot to ass throughout all of season 2, but she only did in the last episode of the series. I think she only put foot to ass in the last episode of season 1, too. Not nearly enough of her putting foot to ass in this series.

Per Levy

28th June 2014, 22:09

yes her story-line is just as boring as in the books, i found the ironborn story-line to be boring almost to the point of being unreadable I would skip entire chapters to get away from it

see that is why i am the overwhelimg minority in all of this, i really liked the ironborn chapters, wich probally stems from the fact that they are cthulhu whorshipping vikings/irish and you got me hooked. actually the ironborn chapters were like the most fun i had reading feast and dance, ah well brienne was good, reek awsome and jamie pretty good too. i really want to see the confrontation between jamie and brynden tully at riverrun, that was like the best stuff in the books. anyway i skipped most of daenery chapters in the books from clash on, her chapters were so much in the way of the flow of what actually was going on in westeros.

so yeah, i just want to see clips from the show of stuff i loved in the books i guess, so im really not qualified on commenting on the show.

I just finished season 2 not that long ago, fell off on this series but I'm getting back into it. I kept waiting for Daenerys Targaryen to put foot to ass throughout all of season 2, but she only did in the last episode of the series. I think she only put foot to ass in the last episode of season 1, too. Not nearly enough of her putting foot to ass in this series.

danny isnt really putting foot to ass in general, others around her do that more often from what i've read/seen. maybe in winds of winter things will be better?

i still want to see victarion and euron and they probaly be just as blond and non black haired as theon is...

Tim Cornelis

28th June 2014, 22:14

are the books and series identical?

Ele'ill

28th June 2014, 22:28

are the books and series identical?

No, they changed a bunch and took characters out and stuff.

Os Cangaceiros

28th June 2014, 23:06

danny isnt really putting foot to ass in general, others around her do that more often from what i've read/seen. maybe in winds of winter things will be better?

i still want to see victarion and euron and they probaly be just as blond and non black haired as theon is...

Yeah I've noticed that. You'd think that because she's a Targaryan she'd be super ruthless like some of the other characters, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems like someone's head is always in jeopardy of being separated from someone's neck in that show...hence the Game of Thrones drinking game: take a shot whenever 1) nekkidness is shown, or 2) someone's head is separated from their neck and/or stabbed (or someone is threatened with getting their headed separated, stabbed, etc); finish the bottle whenever someone says "winter is coming"

bcbm

8th July 2014, 05:19

is the daenerys story as boring as in the books(i know that is a very subjective view but i do find daenerys to be very very boring)?

it isn't the most exciting, but it seems like they are giving it a very good trim for the show.

i am excited for the next season since i think they're going to do some major moving forward past the books

Hrafn

8th July 2014, 08:30

Yeah I've noticed that. You'd think that because she's a Targaryan she'd be super ruthless like some of the other characters, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It seems like someone's head is always in jeopardy of being separated from someone's neck in that show...hence the Game of Thrones drinking game: take a shot whenever 1) nekkidness is shown, or 2) someone's head is separated from their neck and/or stabbed (or someone is threatened with getting their headed separated, stabbed, etc); finish the bottle whenever someone says "winter is coming"

Pretty sure "Winter is coming" has been said like three times since Ned got whacked

Rafiq

8th July 2014, 15:38

I really like the allegory, Beric Dondarjan as florian Geyer and Thoros of myr as muntzer. Maybe Stannis is like muntzers ideal holy Roman emperor.

What I really liked is how dorne is portrayed as more sexually progressive, which is pretty unique as far as fantasy goes.

Slavoj Zizek's Balls

8th July 2014, 16:46

Can someone explain to me why Game of Thrones is enjoyable? What about it makes it unique etc. etc.

Rafiq

8th July 2014, 18:20

Can someone explain to me why Game of Thrones is enjoyable? What about it makes it unique etc. etc.

It's a very finely detailed, consistent fantasy world with incredibly likable characters, unapologetic realism as well as phenomenal visual effects and aesthetic appeal.

Personally I enjoyed HBO's Rome better, though. It was actually from Rome that Game of Thrones(as a show) was influenced, George Martin was a huge fan of it.

Slavoj Zizek's Balls

8th July 2014, 18:55

It's a very finely detailed, consistent fantasy world with incredibly likable characters, unapologetic realism as well as phenomenal visual effects and aesthetic appeal.

Personally I enjoyed HBO's Rome better, though. It was actually from Rome that Game of Thrones(as a show) was influenced, George Martin was a huge fan of it.

I enjoyed Rome too (NOT Rome II Total War, in case anyone thinks of that mess of a game), so I can appreciate Game of Thrones a little more now.