View Full Version : Golden Dawn MP Fascist Kasidiaris throws water on SYRIZA MP and slaps KKE MP
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 08:24
On a morning news programme which hosts Giorgos Papapakis immigration was discussed. After ILIAS KASIDIARIS THE FUCKING SON OF ***** BASTARD MP of Golden Dawn got a little bit pissed, he called the Liana Kanelli KKE MP "fucking commie" and Liana Kanelli called him "Fascist". Afterwards the fascist thug Kasidiaris throws water on the SYRIZA R.Doyroy MP and stands up and gives some slaps to Kanelli. The programme then takes an advertising break. Now let me tell you, despite KKE being my party, a man NEVER BUT NEVER beats a woman! It would be still bad if this was done to a PASOK MP which was a woman yes! Whatever a woman says you should never act like this. And that actually shows the truly antifeminist character of Golden Dawn. I hope they lose some votes now. Fucking bastards. Now Kasidiaris is even hiding, and the cops are searching him to arrest him.
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I was about to post this because this is what accurately describes just how messed up the society has become.
A nazi MP on live TV attacking those he considers traitors (and who surprisingly are not those that governed Greece the past decades like Golden Dawn would proclaim) and I'm telling you, there are people who are going to be happy about it. Maybe not that many, certainly not everyone who voted for them but a lot.
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 08:42
I'm telling you, there are people who are going to be happy about it. Maybe not that many, certainly not everyone who voted for them but a lot.
That's for sure, because idiot voters of GD think that the "Parliament needs some punches and slaps".
Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
7th June 2012, 09:55
That's for sure, because idiot voters of GD think that the "Parliament needs some punches and slaps".
Part of me has always favoured the idea of hitting a few MPs, but not by these guys and not on behalf of their beliefs / ideas.
Such a contrast from here in the UK when Nick Griffin (leader of British National Party) was on Question Time on BBC a few years ago...he just sat there being smug about how 'hated' he was, like a mouldy cat that enjoys the smell of it's own farts
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 10:08
Part of me has always favoured the idea of hitting a few MPs, but not by these guys and not on behalf of their beliefs / ideas.
Such a contrast from here in the UK when Nick Griffin (leader of British National Party) was on Question Time on BBC a few years ago...he just sat there being smug about how 'hated' he was, like a mouldy cat that enjoys the smell of it's own farts
Agree comrade, I wanna fuck up Pangalos you know I will never do it though! But MPs beating between themselves especially men MPs slapping women MPs, is totally not showing that someone is worth to be called a man.
Krano
7th June 2012, 11:19
Someone should throw some acid in his face.
Permanent Revolutionary
7th June 2012, 12:21
Someone should throw some acid in his face.
You may of course be joking, but that's fucked up. After seeing parts of the documentary on pakistani women who have had acid thrown on their faces, I wouldn't wish that for my worst enemy.
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 12:34
Most of Greeks are of course against the action of kasidiaris to Kanelli, but some of them congratulate him for doing so. How fucked up you have to be to support such actions?
ВАЛТЕР
7th June 2012, 12:35
This just how how frustrated the right is and their violence will only become more and more common until it boils over and we have direct conflict in the streets.
Now for the obligatory hateful antifascist rant:
Fuck him and everything he loves and holds dear.
Our enemies have to be ruthlessly eliminated with extreme prejudice. As they would do the same to us given the chance.
I hope he gets run over by a bus, lays in the hospital for weeks, then dies of internal bleeding, and I wish the same to every single fascist supporter out there.
Sir Comradical
7th June 2012, 12:47
Kanelli was holding back for sure. If she wanted to, she'd put that fascist Kasidiari in a wheelchair.
ВАЛТЕР
7th June 2012, 13:54
Saw a comment on a Facebook post by Radio Sarajevo about the incident which made laugh.
"te bolesnike koji su mu dali svoj glas treba poslati na minska polja"
Translate to: "The sick people who gave their votes to him need to be sent to walk on minefields."
lol :laugh:
Sinister Cultural Marxist
7th June 2012, 16:33
People have their criticisms of both the KKE and SYRIZA but it goes without saying that my sympathy goes out to the victims of this violent fascist.
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 16:38
Forgot to mention this, after the break was given, kasidiaris(yes we should write his surname with a small k) continued to attack the crew staff of the programme. Afterwards, they locked him on a room where he broke down the door and escaped. His exact location now is unknown but cops are still searching for him. They said that while he was on the room, he talked to his phone and said " I am on ANT1 channel, bring me about 100 people from Golden Dawn."
Althusser
7th June 2012, 17:19
That was a hard slap, and he just kept going at it. She has to press assault charges on him because this is just ridiculous. You can't have people doing this during a debate...
Think about the reverse of this. If a communist did what he did during a televised debate, he would lose all our respect and support. I wonder how his supporters are responding to this...
ВАЛТЕР
7th June 2012, 18:00
Think about the reverse of this. If a communist did what he did during a televised debate, he would lose all our respect and support. I wonder how his supporters are responding to this...
To be fair, I would probably cheer him on if a communist attacked a fascist. Yeah I have double standards, I don't care.
pastradamus
7th June 2012, 18:03
You are all looking at this as a bad thing. Its a great result for the left. This moron dosent have an ounce of public credability after this.
Kornilios Sunshine
7th June 2012, 18:08
You are all looking at this as a bad thing. Its a great result for the left. This moron dosent have an ounce of public credability after this.
Comrade that is unfortunatelly not true at all. Many many Greeks are congratulating Kasidiaris for the thing he did because they eventually saw a politician being beat up. I hope the KKE get some votes about this, but at the same time I am afraid Golden Dawn will increase its votes. Though it is not so certain Golden Dawn will maintain its high numbers
That was a hard slap, and he just kept going at it. She has to press assault charges on him because this is just ridiculous. You can't have people doing this during a debate...
Think about the reverse of this. If a communist did what he did during a televised debate, he would lose all our respect and support. I wonder how his supporters are responding to this...
If you mean GD supporters my guess is by doing the "victory salute". The fascist scum needs to be fought back, politically, in the streets, in the neigbourhoods, workplace, universities. Anywhere they show their pig faces. And when I say politically I don't just mean leafletting or holding meetings. Self-defence is a right and should be democratically and actively organized to push them back into to the dirty sewers from where they came. Here's to hoping they fall below 3%. But we need more than just hoping.
Geiseric
7th June 2012, 19:07
So here is a situation where a united front would be obviously a good idea against the Fascists, after this kind of thing, a united front would easilly be able to form.
The fascists show their true colours.
NewLeft
7th June 2012, 21:03
She should have went berserk on him.
LuĂs Henrique
7th June 2012, 23:08
Well, nothing like a fascist to unite the left...
Luís Henrique
Salyut
7th June 2012, 23:33
I'm assuming this was the work of the Golden Dawn folks too? (http://www.jpost.com/Headlines/Article.aspx?id=273100)
RedHal
7th June 2012, 23:56
what a cowardly pos, hope there's some sort of payback
Permanent Revolutionary
8th June 2012, 00:25
Sadly, this will be seen as a victory for the Golden Dawn. Just wait, Kasidiaris will get a massive amount of votes come election day.
pastradamus
8th June 2012, 14:22
Comrade that is unfortunatelly not true at all. Many many Greeks are congratulating Kasidiaris for the thing he did because they eventually saw a politician being beat up. I hope the KKE get some votes about this, but at the same time I am afraid Golden Dawn will increase its votes. Though it is not so certain Golden Dawn will maintain its high numbers
I understand that you have more knowledge on the subject than myself, but I find it amazing that people think this is a good thing. The man should be prosecuted for assault and battery and to do this to a woman makes its all the more disgraceful. Im not sure how big golden dawn's support base is but if that was Ireland he'd never get elected again.
Sasha
8th June 2012, 14:26
not suprisingly the police are refusing direct orders to arrest him:
Ilias Kasidiaris is currently hiding in the Golden Dawn HQ in Athens following assault on two female left-wing reporters — witnesses (http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2012/06/07/ilias-kasidiaris-is-in-the-golden-dawn-hq-in-athens-following-assault-on-two-female-left-wing-reporters-witnesses/)
Thursday, June 7, 2012
Ilias Kasidiaris, the Nazi who physically attacked two left-wing MPs on air in the morning of June 7th (see video below) is currently hiding in the HQ of his party, Golden Dawn. Witnesses saw him entering the building, cheered on by approximately 50 members of his criminal gang. Kasidiaris is believed to be trying to buy himself time and to allow the 24-h deadline for the so-called autoforo (where the perpetrator of a crime is arrested on the scene). The deadline for his immediate arrest would be at midnight tomorrow.
It is known that Kasidiaris is currently in the Golden Dawn HQ (source, greek (https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1405296#1405370)) and the police are currently defying the attorney’s orders for his immediate arrest.
Nazi thug MP Kasidiaris still on the loose as anti-nazi demonstrations are called around Greece (http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2012/06/08/nazi-thug-mp-kasidiaris/)
Friday, June 8, 2012
Ilias Kasidiaris, the Nazi MP for Golden Dawn who physically assaulted two female MPs on air last morning (http://blog.occupiedlondon.org/2012/06/07/ilias-kasidiaris-is-in-the-golden-dawn-hq-in-athens-following-assault-on-two-female-left-wing-reporters-witnesses/) is still on the loose, waiting for the expiration of the deadline of the so-called autoforo (where the perpetrator of a crime is arrested on the scene).
The police claim to have been “unable” to trace the thug, despite the fact that tens of witnesses confirm he entered the Golden Dawn HQ minutes after the attack and stayed there.
Meanwhile, leftist organisations are calling for anti-nazi and anti-fascist gatherings in cities across Greece:
In Athens, 7pm at Omonoia square.
In Thessaloniki, 6pm at the Venizelos statue.
In Patras, 7pm at Georgiou Square.
In Heraclion, 6.30pm at the Lions Square
In Rethimnon, 7pm at the town hall
In Gianenna, 6pm at the Academy
In Alexandroupolis, 7pm at the town hall
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/1.jpgNeither in the Parliament, nor anywhere: Fascists out of every neighbourhood. Demonstration against the nazi attacks, Friday 8th of June @7pm
http://www.occupiedlondon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2.jpg10 years of Evangelismos squat (Heraclion, Crete) - demonstration against the contemporary totalitarianism
Kornilios Sunshine
8th June 2012, 15:55
I understand that you have more knowledge on the subject than myself, but I find it amazing that people think this is a good thing. The man should be prosecuted for assault and battery and to do this to a woman makes its all the more disgraceful. Im not sure how big golden dawn's support base is but if that was Ireland he'd never get elected again.
Τhe thing is that about this thug is that he must appear before 11/5 on Monday, because he is on another trial and blamed for subscribtion on robbery, illegal weapon use and weapon carrying! The Greek idiots put this criminal on the Parliament! For fucking's sake!
Kornilios Sunshine
8th June 2012, 15:57
By the way, the Nazi leader had done something similar to what Kasidiaris did on the MP of SYRIZA(throw water on her). What Michaloliakos did, back in 1998 on the Zougla TV Programme, was to throw a nut on a director called Kollatos.
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It's on 1:45.
not suprisingly the police are refusing direct orders to arrest him:
I think this calls for somebody to make a citizens arrest.
Zealot
8th June 2012, 17:44
These Fascists keep acting like children. Who the fuck would even want to vote for these goons I don't even...
Peoples' War
8th June 2012, 18:04
I felt like jumping through my monitor to strangle him.
Fucking fascist prick. I hope he's beaten on the streets.
ВАЛТЕР
8th June 2012, 20:05
Someone needs to deal with this prick RAF style.
TheAltruist
8th June 2012, 21:03
What Michaloliakos did, back in 1998 on the Zougla TV Programme, was to throw a nut on a director called Kollatos.
Ironic that he threw a nut, because he is a nut.
Someone needs to deal with this prick RAF style.
And may I ask what R.A.F. style is?:crying:
A Marxist Historian
8th June 2012, 21:07
I think this calls for somebody to make a citizens arrest.
More like a "citizens arrest" by say a well armed mass mobilization of thousands of trade unionists and other anti-fascists. If he happens to trip and fall in the process, and somehow ends up in a hospital instead of prison, that would be even better.
Any single "citizen" walking up to him and trying to arrest him would end up six feet under, murdered either by Golden Dawn or by the Greek police, half of whom voted Golden Dawn according to some claims.
-M.H.-
Manic Impressive
8th June 2012, 21:38
And may I ask what R.A.F. style is?:crying:
Red Army Faction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_army_faction)
rednordman
8th June 2012, 21:50
What an exemplary demonstration of self control:laugh: But seriously, you can clearly see the smiles on both women's faces the moment he looses his self control in probably the worst way possible. They knew that his actions will have done a lot of damage to his cause and frankly make him look like a kid. What really is funny, if perplexing is how some people are trying to propagate it as a good/funny thing that the women/and or leftists got "***** slapped". People nowadays.....:rolleyes:
Peoples' War
8th June 2012, 21:53
More like a "citizens arrest" by say a well armed mass mobilization of thousands of trade unionists and other anti-fascists. If he happens to trip and fall in the process, and somehow ends up in a hospital instead of prison, that would be even better.
Any single "citizen" walking up to him and trying to arrest him would end up six feet under, murdered either by Golden Dawn or by the Greek police, half of whom voted Golden Dawn according to some claims.
-M.H.-
Considering that guy was also an ex special forces type, the person would have to had been prepared.
He obviously got his ass-kicked in the debate so that was the only way this vile beast could react.He lost the debate,and now they will also lose votes. I just hope he doesn't become a hero for the people . (He already is though, probably.)
jookyle
9th June 2012, 00:04
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pastradamus
9th June 2012, 02:04
And may I ask what R.A.F. style is?:crying:
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Die Neue Zeit
10th June 2012, 17:50
I understand that you have more knowledge on the subject than myself, but I find it amazing that people think this is a good thing. The man should be prosecuted for assault and battery and to do this to a woman makes its all the more disgraceful. Im not sure how big golden dawn's support base is but if that was Ireland he'd never get elected again.
Either (non-life-threatening) vigilante action should be organized against him or he should be "kidnapped" and dropped by non-fascist sympathizing elements of the authorities.
Rafiq
10th June 2012, 20:55
You may of course be joking, but that's fucked up. After seeing parts of the documentary on pakistani women who have had acid thrown on their faces, I wouldn't wish that for my worst enemy.
Alright, what about a bucket of boiling piss?
REDSOX
11th June 2012, 11:01
Golden Dawn Neo Nazis's are a threat to immigrants and leftists alike. As to whether the ruling class will let them anywhere near power is an open question. They tried that with Hitler and Mussolini and frankenstein monster turned on their creators. If syriza are elected prepare for a military take over rather than fascism in its golden dawn form. Thats what the working class should fear in Greece
LuĂs Henrique
11th June 2012, 12:36
Someone needs to deal with this prick RAF style.
Considering the RAF was such a failure, I hope we find a way to deal with this guy that actually functions.
A huge mass demo outside of GD headquarters would probably do the trick. Siege them until they deliver Kasidiaris or they starve. And if enough momentum is acquired, storm the place, capture the fasho and deliver him to a court.
And let's see what the police does...
Luís Henrique
ВАЛТЕР
11th June 2012, 12:39
Considering the RAF was such a failure, I hope we find a way to deal with this guy that actually functions.
A huge mass demo outside of GD headquarters would probably do the trick. Siege them until they deliver Kasidiaris or they starve. And if enough momentum is acquired, storm the place, capture the fasho and deliver him to a court.
And let's see what the police does...
Luís Henrique
By "RAF style" I mean kidnap him and shoot him in the back of the head.
Don't complicate things lol
LuĂs Henrique
11th June 2012, 13:06
By "RAF style" I mean kidnap him and shoot him in the back of the head.
Don't complicate things lol
Things are complicated by themselves.
Shooting this idiot in the back of the head in RAF's secretive style would do absolutely no good for our cause. On the contrary, it would give Golden Dawn quite a gift: a new martyr to inscribe in their banners, a fresh talking point that diverts from the increasingly dire economic situation, etc.
I have no problem with this thug being killed in the process, as long as the masses of the ruled classes can feel themselves as the subjects of such revenge. But having a bunch of self-appointed "defenders of the people" doing it goes directly contrary to everything we believe and need.
Luís Henrique
marl
11th June 2012, 14:07
Things are complicated by themselves.
Shooting this idiot in the back of the head in RAF's secretive style would do absolutely no good for our cause. On the contrary, it would give Golden Dawn quite a gift: a new martyr to inscribe in their banners, a fresh talking point that diverts from the increasingly dire economic situation, etc.
I have no problem with this thug being killed in the process, as long as the masses of the ruled classes can feel themselves as the subjects of such revenge. But having a bunch of self-appointed "defenders of the people" doing it goes directly contrary to everything we believe and need.
Luís Henrique
Indeed, for an example, there was that one Nazi (whose name has slipped past my memory) that was charasmatic and young, but was murdered. As a result, he became a a martyr to the NSDAP. His name was in the anthem of Nazi Germany, but I'd rather not look up his name in school.
LuĂs Henrique
11th June 2012, 16:39
Indeed, for an example, there was that one Nazi (whose name has slipped past my memory) that was charasmatic and young, but was murdered. As a result, he became a a martyr to the NSDAP. His name was in the anthem of Nazi Germany, but I'd rather not look up his name in school.
Horst Wessel.
Luís Henrique
Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant'
11th June 2012, 16:47
HAVE YOU HEARD THIS SHIT??
The spokesman for Greece's far-right Golden Dawn, who slapped a left-wing politician and threw water over another on a TV debate, is suing his victims.
Ilias Kasidiaris went to an Athens court to announce he would sue the women for defamation.
Mr Kasidiaris is also suing the TV station, Antenna, for illegal detention after staff tried to stop him leaving following the incident last Thursday.
Golden Dawn will be contesting a critical Greek election this Sunday.
Mr Kasidiaris avoided an arrest warrant for the attack, lying low until it expired.
Under Greek law, the arrest warrant for a minor crime must be carried out by midnight the day after the incident took place for an immediate trial - otherwise it goes to judicial procedure and a much later trial date is set.
A court date to hear the assault charges has not been set yet.
(More at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18398603)
marl
11th June 2012, 16:57
Horst Wessel.
Luís Henrique
Aye. :cool:
Rafiq
11th June 2012, 22:46
Considering the RAF was such a failure, I hope we find a way to deal with this guy that actually functions.
A huge mass demo outside of GD headquarters would probably do the trick. Siege them until they deliver Kasidiaris or they starve. And if enough momentum is acquired, storm the place, capture the fasho and deliver him to a court.
And let's see what the police does...
Luís Henrique
I don't think anyone would suggest that in regards to revolutionary strategy, the RAF would ever become anything but a failure.
But in the sense that they exposed to us the true nature of the West German state, and the all the Fascists they rehabilitated, the feelings of the German youth, and so on, they were a success and there legacy is not a bad one. At one point, around 14% of West Germans said outwardly in a poll that they would provide supplies and house the members of the RAF. That's fucking crazy, if you ask me.
A Marxist Historian
13th June 2012, 00:23
Things are complicated by themselves.
Shooting this idiot in the back of the head in RAF's secretive style would do absolutely no good for our cause. On the contrary, it would give Golden Dawn quite a gift: a new martyr to inscribe in their banners, a fresh talking point that diverts from the increasingly dire economic situation, etc.
I have no problem with this thug being killed in the process, as long as the masses of the ruled classes can feel themselves as the subjects of such revenge. But having a bunch of self-appointed "defenders of the people" doing it goes directly contrary to everything we believe and need.
Luís Henrique
That's right. Fascist movements love having martyrs. INdeed let's not create another Horst Wessel.
No, the best way to deal with this character would be for a band of revolutionary workers to beat down his Golden Dawn goon squad at some moment when the cops aren't around, strip him naked, paint a yellow stripe down his back, and chase him out of town while hooting and laughing at him all the way to whatever hole he would want to crawl into.
Humiliate the macho pig in a way he deserves.
-M.H.-
LuĂs Henrique
13th June 2012, 01:44
strip him naked, paint a yellow stripe down his back, and chase him out of town while hooting and laughing at him all the way to whatever hole he would want to crawl into.
Humiliate the macho pig in a way he deserves.
Better even, force a bottle of whisky or other distilled beverage down his throat and make him dance while making his way out of Athens. Not because it is fun, or because it is a revenge, but because it would deeply harm the mythology these guys rely on to build their "movement".
Luís Henrique
pastradamus
17th June 2012, 03:58
Either (non-life-threatening) vigilante action should be organized against him or he should be "kidnapped" and dropped by non-fascist sympathizing elements of the authorities.
But what will that do in a democratic society? I mean thats just going to make a martyr and an idol for fascists world-wide. In my own opinion you must let this man resign himself to his own poor intellect. We dont have to kill this guy because he's already doing that. Facism is the immoral believe of the self-proven idiot.
pastradamus
17th June 2012, 03:59
Better even, force a bottle of whisky or other distilled beverage down his throat and make him dance while making his way out of Athens. Not because it is fun, or because it is a revenge, but because it would deeply harm the mythology these guys rely on to build their "movement".
Luís Henrique
Thats does sound link fun. Better yet, put a good whiskey in front of him and I and see who wins! ....bet on the Irishman everytime! :D
pastradamus
17th June 2012, 04:19
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Sorry now for shiting on lads and quoting myself. But I love that quote at the end of this video " I will never resign myself to doing nothing"....sums it all up really, life that is.
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