tradeunionsupporter
4th June 2012, 15:02
Non Marxists such as Black Nationalists and other types using the term Bourgeoisie ? What is your opinion of this ?
bourgeois blacks in european society. racism alive and well.
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Wed, January 4, 2012
bourgeois: a member of the middle class.a person whose political, economic and social opinions are believed to be determined mainly by concern for property values and conventional respectability. dominated or characterized by materialistic pursuits or concerns. so called booshe blacks who think they have arrived in european society are only fooling themselves. you have bought into classism, elitism and capitalism but are giving away whatever inner substance you might have because you cant put a value on it. what you represent is self-hatred, hatred of your own race and seek acceptance of european society because you believe that what you have makes you feel like you have made it. everything that you have job, education, money, house, car, clothing and other materialism everything you have gotten from white people so you cant possibly be equal to the producer being a consumer for it can be taken away without notice. and to believe racism is dead because you dont see black people lynched, hanging from trees, set on fire and beat by police racism is alive, well and even more dangerous because it is hidden.in the new year and years to come if we dont separate, get our own and turn to afrikan consciousness we are done as a race!!! black people still think they love you?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/01/05/facoli (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/01/05/facoli)
JEWS... BLOODSUCKERS OF THE POOR.
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in History (http://www.revleft.com/history)
Airdate: Tue, March 20, 2012
IN ORDER 4 A FEW PEOPLE 2 BE RICH A MAJORITY HAVE 2 BE POOR AND AT THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID THERE IS NONE OTHER BUT THE JEW. THESE PEOPLE R NOT GREAT THEY ARE JUST MORE SKILLED AT ERY WHICH IS WHY THEY R SOO HATED BY THEIR AMERIKKKAN EUROPEAN BROTHER. JEWS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SKILLED IN USURY I.E. INTEREST FROM THE AGES THANKS 2 MAYER AMSHEL ROTSCHILD THE HEAD OF A LEADING JEWISH BANKING FAMILY WHOSE ANCESTORS 2DAY CONTINUE 2 SUCK THE BLOOD OF THE POOR AND HAVE A SECRET RELATIONSHIP WITH BLACK PUPPET POLITICIANS, EDUCATORS, PREACHERS AND BUSINESSMEN. SO-CALLED HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES, BLACK ORGINIZATIONS, COMMUNITY CENTERS ALL FUNDED BY JEWS WHICH IS WHY WE STILL DONT BENEFIT FROM ANY OF THIS. JEWS CONTROL THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SUCKING THE BLOOD DRY OF BLACK TALENT AND ROBBING THE YOUTH FROM THE NEGATIVE MESSAGE THEIR INDUSTRY PUPPETS PUT OUT. GAS PRICES, THE ECONOMY, HIGH SALES TAXESANYTHING 2 KEEP POOR PEOPLE POOR AND MAKE OTHERS THE JEWS R RESPONSIBLE.IN ORDER 2 FIGHT AGAINST BEING PLAYED YOU MUST KNOW WHO IS PLAYING U.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/03/21/the-best-of-underground-hip-hop-with-j-rolls (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/03/21/the-best-of-underground-hip-hop-with-j-rolls)
The Birth Of Two Nations
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Sat, August 8, 2009
Special guest Tom Metzger. Tune in; the show will be very educational and enlightening.
http://ww2.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/09/logical-thinking-with-blackson (http://ww2.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/09/logical-thinking-with-blackson)
American Black Upper Class
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The American Black Upper Class consists of African American (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/African_American) professionals in fields such as law (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Law), medicine (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Medicine), business (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Business) and entertainment (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Entertainment) that have incomes that amount to $100,000 or more.[1] (http://www.revleft.com/vb//lcite_note-0) This class, sometimes referred to as the black upper-middle-class or The black elite (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/The_black_elite), represents less than 1 percent of the total black population in the United States.[2] (http://www.revleft.com/vb//lcite_note-1) This group of African Americans (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/African_Americans) has a history of organizations and activities that distinguish it from other classes within the black community as well as from the white upper class. Many of these traditions, which have persisted for several generations, are discussed in Lawrence Otis Graham (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Lawrence_Otis_Graham)’s 2000 book, Our Kind of People: Inside America’s Black Upper Class.
Scholarship on this class from a sociological perspective is generally traced to E. Franklin Frazier (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/E._Franklin_Frazier)'s Black Bourgeoisie (http://www.revleft.com/w/index.php?title=Black_Bourgeoisie&action=edit&redlink=1) ( first edition in English in 1957 translated from the 1955 French original).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Black_Upper_Class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Black_Upper_Class)
WHERE DOES RACISM COME FROM?
Racism is not natural or inevitable. It is rooted in class society.
Racism developed alongside capitalism and the modern State since these emerged 500 years ago. It justified the conquest, slaughter and enslavement of indigenous people in the Americas, Asia and Africa. Later racism was used to divide and rule the working class majority, and to super- exploit and repress sections of the working- class.
Racist arguments said colonialism, slavery and Black worker oppression were a "civilising mission". In truth, racism gave huge profits and power to the capitalist ruling- classes of Europe and Japan.
WORKING- CLASS REVOLUTION
All Black people are victims of racism. But the Black middle and upper class elite is shielded from the worst effects of racism by their privileged status in capitalism. They can live in the suburbs, go to private schools and earn big salaries- we can't.
We must fight racism wherever it exists. But we working and poor people must not build alliances with Black managers and capitalists, because they will always choose profits over socialism. They want to exploit us. But we, the workers and the poor, create all social wealth. Only we can build a free society because only we do not exploit.
A united multi-racial class struggle of all the workers of the world is the only road to freedom. A united struggle on a principled anti-racist platform is vital.
WHITE WORKERS AND RACISM
All races are fundamentally equal. There is as much difference within each "race" as there is between the "races". This means that there is no such thing as an inferior or superior race, or as an inherent racial characteristic like mathematical ability.
Obviously this means that we do not accept the bourgeois- nationalist argument that White people are always racists.
Another issue that always get raised is the question of whether White workers benefit from racism. In examining this issue we need to distinguish between different circumstances.
In South Africa, which was historically a colony of white settlement, the small White working class received massive and real gains from the racist system because of the bosses need to strengthen racial capitalism. With the fall of Apartheid, the racist privileges are rapidly eroding, opening up the possibility of sections of White workers joining with Black in large numbers as reliable allies.
In countries like Britain and Europe, where the white working class forms the majority of the population, the situation is more complex.
While White workers in these countries may receive some limited short- term benefits from racism, such as a slightly lower rate of unemployment, these benefits are limited. Whites still make up the majority of the poor and unemployed here. And racism has serious long - term effects which outweigh short- term gains- it seriously divides and weakens working class struggles. In all these countries there is a strong anti-racist working-class tradition, evident from large-scale White participation in riots against racial oppression. Racism is therefore not in the real interests of the Euro-American working- class.
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/africa/wsfws/2_2racism.html (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/africa/wsfws/2_2racism.html)
Myth: The criminal justice system is not biased against the poor.
Fact: Nearly everyone commits crime -- only the poor are generally punished for it.
Summary
All classes commit crime. However, the poor experience higher rates of arrest, criminal charges, convictions, long prison sentences and denial of parole. This winnowing process ensures that most rich criminals never see the inside of a prison, while overflowing them with the poor.
BIAS IN CONVICTIONS
The O.J. Simpson murder trial provided us with a snapshot of a system that is heavily biased towards money -- even more so than race.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-CJSpoor.htm (http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-CJSpoor.htm)
INTERVIEWER: Your mentor, Herbert Marcuse once back in '58, as I recall, said that one of the things that would happen as blacks made gains in the civil rights movement was that there would be the creation of a black bourgeoisie and that's certainly been one of the things that's happened as we look back from the vantage point of 1997. How do you see the role of the black bourgeoisie in the continuing struggle?
DAVIS: Actually we've had a black bourgeoisie or the makings of a black bourgeoisie for many more decades.... if we look at one of our great leaders, W.E.B. Du Bois, he was associated with a very minuscule black bourgeoisie in the 19th century so this is not something that is substantively new although the numbers of black people who now count themselves among the black bourgeoisie certainly does make an enormous difference.
In a sense the quest for the emancipation of black people in the US has always been a quest for economic liberation which means to a certain extent that the rise of black middle class would be inevitable. What I think is different today is the lack of political connection between the black middle class and the increasing numbers of black people who are more impoverished than ever before.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/interviews/davis.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/interviews/davis.html)
Tom Metzger guest of The Movement hosted Onyxdaughter
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in Podcasting (http://www.revleft.com/podcasting)
Airdate: Thu, August 19, 2010
White separatist stops by to tell us what he thinks. The discussion really gets heated listen in.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2010/08/20/the-movement-hosted-onyxdaughter (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2010/08/20/the-movement-hosted-onyxdaughter)
Do you have beef with the Arena? Bring it on!
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Sat, August 15, 2009
Many people have been calling and emailing Michelle and Blackson about last weeks show with Tom Metzger. Some many people now have so much to say. Well,this is your chance to address the issue. We say bring it on!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/16/logical-thinking-with-blackson (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/16/logical-thinking-with-blackson)
bourgeois blacks in european society. racism alive and well.
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Wed, January 4, 2012
bourgeois: a member of the middle class.a person whose political, economic and social opinions are believed to be determined mainly by concern for property values and conventional respectability. dominated or characterized by materialistic pursuits or concerns. so called booshe blacks who think they have arrived in european society are only fooling themselves. you have bought into classism, elitism and capitalism but are giving away whatever inner substance you might have because you cant put a value on it. what you represent is self-hatred, hatred of your own race and seek acceptance of european society because you believe that what you have makes you feel like you have made it. everything that you have job, education, money, house, car, clothing and other materialism everything you have gotten from white people so you cant possibly be equal to the producer being a consumer for it can be taken away without notice. and to believe racism is dead because you dont see black people lynched, hanging from trees, set on fire and beat by police racism is alive, well and even more dangerous because it is hidden.in the new year and years to come if we dont separate, get our own and turn to afrikan consciousness we are done as a race!!! black people still think they love you?
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/01/05/facoli (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/01/05/facoli)
JEWS... BLOODSUCKERS OF THE POOR.
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in History (http://www.revleft.com/history)
Airdate: Tue, March 20, 2012
IN ORDER 4 A FEW PEOPLE 2 BE RICH A MAJORITY HAVE 2 BE POOR AND AT THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID THERE IS NONE OTHER BUT THE JEW. THESE PEOPLE R NOT GREAT THEY ARE JUST MORE SKILLED AT ERY WHICH IS WHY THEY R SOO HATED BY THEIR AMERIKKKAN EUROPEAN BROTHER. JEWS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SKILLED IN USURY I.E. INTEREST FROM THE AGES THANKS 2 MAYER AMSHEL ROTSCHILD THE HEAD OF A LEADING JEWISH BANKING FAMILY WHOSE ANCESTORS 2DAY CONTINUE 2 SUCK THE BLOOD OF THE POOR AND HAVE A SECRET RELATIONSHIP WITH BLACK PUPPET POLITICIANS, EDUCATORS, PREACHERS AND BUSINESSMEN. SO-CALLED HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES, BLACK ORGINIZATIONS, COMMUNITY CENTERS ALL FUNDED BY JEWS WHICH IS WHY WE STILL DONT BENEFIT FROM ANY OF THIS. JEWS CONTROL THE MUSIC INDUSTRY SUCKING THE BLOOD DRY OF BLACK TALENT AND ROBBING THE YOUTH FROM THE NEGATIVE MESSAGE THEIR INDUSTRY PUPPETS PUT OUT. GAS PRICES, THE ECONOMY, HIGH SALES TAXESANYTHING 2 KEEP POOR PEOPLE POOR AND MAKE OTHERS THE JEWS R RESPONSIBLE.IN ORDER 2 FIGHT AGAINST BEING PLAYED YOU MUST KNOW WHO IS PLAYING U.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/03/21/the-best-of-underground-hip-hop-with-j-rolls (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2012/03/21/the-best-of-underground-hip-hop-with-j-rolls)
The Birth Of Two Nations
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Sat, August 8, 2009
Special guest Tom Metzger. Tune in; the show will be very educational and enlightening.
http://ww2.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/09/logical-thinking-with-blackson (http://ww2.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/09/logical-thinking-with-blackson)
American Black Upper Class
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The American Black Upper Class consists of African American (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/African_American) professionals in fields such as law (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Law), medicine (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Medicine), business (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Business) and entertainment (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Entertainment) that have incomes that amount to $100,000 or more.[1] (http://www.revleft.com/vb//lcite_note-0) This class, sometimes referred to as the black upper-middle-class or The black elite (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/The_black_elite), represents less than 1 percent of the total black population in the United States.[2] (http://www.revleft.com/vb//lcite_note-1) This group of African Americans (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/African_Americans) has a history of organizations and activities that distinguish it from other classes within the black community as well as from the white upper class. Many of these traditions, which have persisted for several generations, are discussed in Lawrence Otis Graham (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Lawrence_Otis_Graham)’s 2000 book, Our Kind of People: Inside America’s Black Upper Class.
Scholarship on this class from a sociological perspective is generally traced to E. Franklin Frazier (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/E._Franklin_Frazier)'s Black Bourgeoisie (http://www.revleft.com/w/index.php?title=Black_Bourgeoisie&action=edit&redlink=1) ( first edition in English in 1957 translated from the 1955 French original).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Black_Upper_Class (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Black_Upper_Class)
WHERE DOES RACISM COME FROM?
Racism is not natural or inevitable. It is rooted in class society.
Racism developed alongside capitalism and the modern State since these emerged 500 years ago. It justified the conquest, slaughter and enslavement of indigenous people in the Americas, Asia and Africa. Later racism was used to divide and rule the working class majority, and to super- exploit and repress sections of the working- class.
Racist arguments said colonialism, slavery and Black worker oppression were a "civilising mission". In truth, racism gave huge profits and power to the capitalist ruling- classes of Europe and Japan.
WORKING- CLASS REVOLUTION
All Black people are victims of racism. But the Black middle and upper class elite is shielded from the worst effects of racism by their privileged status in capitalism. They can live in the suburbs, go to private schools and earn big salaries- we can't.
We must fight racism wherever it exists. But we working and poor people must not build alliances with Black managers and capitalists, because they will always choose profits over socialism. They want to exploit us. But we, the workers and the poor, create all social wealth. Only we can build a free society because only we do not exploit.
A united multi-racial class struggle of all the workers of the world is the only road to freedom. A united struggle on a principled anti-racist platform is vital.
WHITE WORKERS AND RACISM
All races are fundamentally equal. There is as much difference within each "race" as there is between the "races". This means that there is no such thing as an inferior or superior race, or as an inherent racial characteristic like mathematical ability.
Obviously this means that we do not accept the bourgeois- nationalist argument that White people are always racists.
Another issue that always get raised is the question of whether White workers benefit from racism. In examining this issue we need to distinguish between different circumstances.
In South Africa, which was historically a colony of white settlement, the small White working class received massive and real gains from the racist system because of the bosses need to strengthen racial capitalism. With the fall of Apartheid, the racist privileges are rapidly eroding, opening up the possibility of sections of White workers joining with Black in large numbers as reliable allies.
In countries like Britain and Europe, where the white working class forms the majority of the population, the situation is more complex.
While White workers in these countries may receive some limited short- term benefits from racism, such as a slightly lower rate of unemployment, these benefits are limited. Whites still make up the majority of the poor and unemployed here. And racism has serious long - term effects which outweigh short- term gains- it seriously divides and weakens working class struggles. In all these countries there is a strong anti-racist working-class tradition, evident from large-scale White participation in riots against racial oppression. Racism is therefore not in the real interests of the Euro-American working- class.
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/africa/wsfws/2_2racism.html (http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/africa/wsfws/2_2racism.html)
Myth: The criminal justice system is not biased against the poor.
Fact: Nearly everyone commits crime -- only the poor are generally punished for it.
Summary
All classes commit crime. However, the poor experience higher rates of arrest, criminal charges, convictions, long prison sentences and denial of parole. This winnowing process ensures that most rich criminals never see the inside of a prison, while overflowing them with the poor.
BIAS IN CONVICTIONS
The O.J. Simpson murder trial provided us with a snapshot of a system that is heavily biased towards money -- even more so than race.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-CJSpoor.htm (http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-CJSpoor.htm)
INTERVIEWER: Your mentor, Herbert Marcuse once back in '58, as I recall, said that one of the things that would happen as blacks made gains in the civil rights movement was that there would be the creation of a black bourgeoisie and that's certainly been one of the things that's happened as we look back from the vantage point of 1997. How do you see the role of the black bourgeoisie in the continuing struggle?
DAVIS: Actually we've had a black bourgeoisie or the makings of a black bourgeoisie for many more decades.... if we look at one of our great leaders, W.E.B. Du Bois, he was associated with a very minuscule black bourgeoisie in the 19th century so this is not something that is substantively new although the numbers of black people who now count themselves among the black bourgeoisie certainly does make an enormous difference.
In a sense the quest for the emancipation of black people in the US has always been a quest for economic liberation which means to a certain extent that the rise of black middle class would be inevitable. What I think is different today is the lack of political connection between the black middle class and the increasing numbers of black people who are more impoverished than ever before.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/interviews/davis.html (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/race/interviews/davis.html)
Tom Metzger guest of The Movement hosted Onyxdaughter
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in Podcasting (http://www.revleft.com/podcasting)
Airdate: Thu, August 19, 2010
White separatist stops by to tell us what he thinks. The discussion really gets heated listen in.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2010/08/20/the-movement-hosted-onyxdaughter (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2010/08/20/the-movement-hosted-onyxdaughter)
Do you have beef with the Arena? Bring it on!
by THE ARENA (http://www.revleft.com/the_arena)
in News (http://www.revleft.com/news)
Airdate: Sat, August 15, 2009
Many people have been calling and emailing Michelle and Blackson about last weeks show with Tom Metzger. Some many people now have so much to say. Well,this is your chance to address the issue. We say bring it on!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/16/logical-thinking-with-blackson (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the_arena/2009/08/16/logical-thinking-with-blackson)