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The Children of the Revolution
12th December 2003, 02:14
[I didn't know which forum to put this in; if a 'mod' wants to move it then please do...]

"I hate Bush."

A common enough phrase round here; there's even a chap with it as his username. But I am going to promote a highly controversial theory - Bush is not to blame!

I suggest the unthinkable, that Bush himself is being exploited - whether knowingly or not I couldn't possibly say. I do not wish to defend him; he has led a ridiculously corrupt life, cheating at every turn. But consider this. Who was branded a Warmonger before Iraq? Who is blamed for its failure? Who is blamed for the failure of the US economy? For the tax breaks to the rich and the cuts in public spending? Who is presented as a moron in the World's press? Bush.

And just what does he stand to gain from an unpopular War in Iraq? From some unpopular fiscal management? Another term? Is worldwide vilification worth this? He has plenty of money as it is.

I think the REAL culprits are the businessmen, the shady oil tycoons... They are the ones who will benefit from the reconstruction contracts, the lucrative Iraqi "black gold", the defence contracts at home, and the corporate tax breaks... Meanwhile it is Bush that stands up front and gets egg on his face. And has a likeness of himself pulled down in the streets on his visit to the UK.

It is his face on the posters; they proudly proclaim "Stop Bu$h!" But the public don't seem to understand - if Bush goes, it'll only be a different face on the election posters... A different gentleman (or indeed, lady) reading speeches he (or she) couldn't possibly have written him (or her) self... A different name in the news - basically, another scapegoat.

And the unseen CEO's, Chief Execs and business interests will continue to run the country, laughing as they do... (Can a business interest laugh? Hmmm...) I know Bush, as the President, is seen as a spokesman for the US - but the current situation is a little too extreme...

Am I the only one that thinks this?

MysticArcher
12th December 2003, 02:23
yeah, it seems to be a good theory, but one thing: Bush was one of those "shady oil tycoons" he held some sort of position in at least one oil company before being elected

other than that you seem to have a good arguement, but the thing is to even begin change it's necessary to as you say "stop Bu$h" it's harder to educate the public about the unseen businessmen than it is to just point out Bush and his stupid policies

The Children of the Revolution
12th December 2003, 02:32
Bush was one of those "shady oil tycoons" he held some sort of position in at least one oil company before being elected


If what I read is correct, all his "business ventures" failed! :lol: The tit.
He kept on having to be bailed out by his rich family!



... it's harder to educate the public about the unseen businessmen than it is to just point out Bush and his stupid policies.


This is the problem... (It's not as fun either!) I'll start here, on this forum.
Next step: the World!

MysticArcher
12th December 2003, 02:39
yeah, I didn't say he was a success, just that he was one,

good luck with educating people

Kez
12th December 2003, 14:42
well, Bush isnt the main enemy, he is merely a puppet of our enemy, the capitalist class. IT is therefore silly although understandable to channel hate to the prick, when we should channel is to all the pricks

Intifada
12th December 2003, 16:21
there's even a chap with it as his username.

hi!

good point, but he is an imperialist fuckwit. he is the person people think of when talking about war mongering fascists.

SonofRage
12th December 2003, 21:28
I always say "Don't hate the player, hate the game." It seems appropriate.

The Children of the Revolution
12th December 2003, 23:25
"well, Bush isnt the main enemy, he is merely a puppet of our enemy, the capitalist class. IT is therefore silly although understandable to channel hate to the prick, when we should channel is to all the pricks"

"good point, but he is an imperialist fuckwit. he is the person people think of when talking about war mongering fascists."

"I always say "Don't hate the player, hate the game." It seems appropriate."


It seems there is some kind of consensus... What, then, do you think should be done about this? Bush may indeed be the symbol of worldwide imperialism - but if this continues, the public outrage at American (and British) international behaviour will cease when he loses power. Only to increase again when the next President makes an unpopular move...

Surely the anger directed at Bu$h would be better focussed on World Capitalism and Imperialism?

ComradeRobertRiley
12th December 2003, 23:43
Bullshit!

Bush IS to blame.


Congress majority deceided that the trade ban on Cuba should be ended but Bush threatened to VETO it, no one is pulling G W Bush's strings, he's doing it.

Kill Bush!

The Children of the Revolution
12th December 2003, 23:50
Congress majority deceided that the trade ban on Cuba should be ended but Bush threatened to VETO it, no one is pulling G W Bush's strings, he's doing it.


Ah, yes - Bush has a REAL interest in annihilating Cuba economically... Come on! Who else was going to veto the move? There are undoubtedly people "pulling his strings" because of the potential power he can wield. You have been taken in, comrade! You direct your anger towards Bush, not the hidden forces influencing him!

Intifada
13th December 2003, 16:12
Surely the anger directed at Bu$h would be better focussed on World Capitalism and Imperialism?

but he is the face of international capitalism and imperialism, i hate the fucking bastard, but i also hate the fuckers behind the monstrous machine like rumsfeld, cheney, rice and wolfowitz.

Kez
13th December 2003, 16:36
Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 12:43 AM
Bullshit!

Bush IS to blame.


Congress majority deceided that the trade ban on Cuba should be ended but Bush threatened to VETO it, no one is pulling G W Bush's strings, he's doing it.

Kill Bush!
a clear lack of understanding of the bourgeoise system.

the fact that he did this shows that power, as you seem to believe, is in Congress....its in the hands of the capitalists...according to you Congress is the real representation of the workers will huh?

silly boy

ComradeRobertRiley
13th December 2003, 20:28
Kamo where the hell did you derive that dribble from?

I never said nor do i beleive that anyone other than bush is a working class exploited person, what planet are you on?

I am mearly emphasising that Bush is in alot of power and DOES make big desisions on his own, yes congress has alot of power too and yes bush has advisors. BUT bush is more that a puppet, his on views/opinions VETO congress.

not every time, just sometimes.

Kez
13th December 2003, 21:06
you sedd "no one is pulling G W Bush's strings, he's doing it."

This shows the inadequacy of your knowledge and the belief u have that you can simply blagg your way to the revolution...on your little island or wherever...

Bush has no viewpoint of his own, his viewpoints are derived of what the capitlaists demand of him, as they are the ones that put and maintain his reigns on power