protestwarriors

[peaccenicked]

What do these bastards know? Nothing.
I ve just read one of their Webpages and it is just sick. The Left are branded as one collosal stereotype.
They seem to want to turn up at protest marches and spread their hatred and ignorance.

[Blue_Max]

And from what I've read here, the Right is branded as Fascist. :(

Both parties are guilty......so, what now? Healthy debate or continue throwing mud? :huh:

[The Children of the Revolution]

Shut it, Nazi. :lol:

Only kidding, you raise a valid point. Although I must admit, I find the Right-wingers to be far more directly insulting - and less willing to debate. Some enterprising soul could set up an Internet Forum with both "leftists" and "scumbags". (lol :P ) And a moderator or twenty to ban spammers and mindless cretins bent on insulting others and not debating.

Debate is a good thing; it reduces ignorance, and forces people to THINK about issues rather than relying on foolish stereotypes.

Join the Revolution comrade, it's not too late!

[RedCeltic]

I was fooled by their website the first time I looked at it. At first glance I thought that it was just directed against the anti-war movement, in a subversive way. However when I went back and looked through some of the images they have on the website I came across one that I find extremely offensive and racist.

[Exploited Class]

Personally I wouldn't argue with people that use the following statements.

it's pretty hypocritical for a Transfan to be anti-freedom.
I love the glide of saying that communsim is ant-freedom.
( on the website forum, they were saying that that trans-fans were liberal/communist so they replace communist with anti-freedom, say it enough and you might believe)

We feel that the left has a monopoly on the flow of information in this country
Yah those communists that own ABC, NBC, CNN, FOX, CBS, Comedy Channel, MSNBC..ect. Not wealthy fucking billionaires mind you but LEFTISTS!

I can't argue with somebody that is that far into la la land. If CNN was liberal, they wouldn't say defense budget or Defense Department. They would call them what they are, Department of War and Military Spending. Besides the point, billionaire americans and the shareholders they answer to are not leftists. That doesn't even make sense.

The left is very skillful when it comes to hiding their true beliefs.
Yes we are, we all went to hiding true beliefs class 101 in liberal college.

They know they can't compete in the marketplace of ideas, so instead they like to work in secret.
If they work in secret it is only because of fascist operations like COINTELPRO that forced them to.

These people claim to have a monopoly on what is good, their entire self-esteem depends on it.
I believe that is actually religions, don't get the left confused with the "Moral Majority" of america.

For example, take our sign "Saddam only kills his own people. It's none of our business." A sign like that strikes at their ill-conceived mental constructs, because it's pointing out that their anti-war view on Iraq is very selfish and isolationist. And when this is pointed out to them, it forces them to acknowledge that they are really not for what's good, but that their ideology is based on something far less noble - that in fact they have a hatred of what's good.

So where was all the protestwarriors at when he comitted these crimes? Reagan didn't go over and immediatly stop it, neither did Bush? Talk about hypocrits. Where were they at to protest our intervention when the killing of innocent people actually happened?
It isn't isolationists to not want to go over and bomb and kill people. What a spin. How is it selfish to not want people killed on both sides? Well Reagan didn't do anything to stop Saddam, so I guess he has a hatred for what's good.

Some leftists may be genuine about wanting to help people, they just have bad data.
Talk about sounding like a Christian. Oh they want to do go things but they are just confused... Nice way to save face in an political way by saying, "They aren't all really bad people, some of them are good and want to do good but they just have bad information".

With them, it is a pleasure to educate them and help them, it's like bringing someone out of darkness into the light of truth -- akin to saving souls.
More religious babble.

But the other kind, the hard-core emotional based leftists, the kind where you look into their eyes and see confusion, anger, hatred, we just feel sorry for them, and all you can do is work to create a society where they have no power.
FASCISM

And the way to do that is to reduce the role of the State in human affairs as much as possible. Evil is impotent on its own, and we want to do everything we can to cordon them off from decent society.
Belittle your opponent with subjective terms like Evil! More religious babble.

National Security
Now due to a successful campaign in Afghanistan, the Taliban is no more, and Al-Qaeda was largely disrupted. However, it is not enough to simply go after the terrorists themselves, we must also change the conditions that breed them.

Oh and to just go from one of their posters quotes on this board.

Then you need to find a cause that people can agree with, and eventually, people who will agree with blindly.

This is beyond fascism, this is changing other countries and taking them over and then rebuilding them in your own image. This is because people like them use blanket terms like EVIL and GOOD and BAD. it is an excuse to weild the power and as everybody since the time Iraq has been taken over knows, it was not about security, it was about sending in American Companies to recieve tax dollars to setup permenant buisnesses over there, and to shut out foreign competition to do so. What a beutiful way to get that arm of the empire stretched, not only do we have to attack them, but change them to resemble us.

The reality is that Muslims are no different than any other group of people, in that when a society is run by tyranny, when there is no economic, social or civil liberty, this breeds frustration, poverty, alienation, and fear. The people in these countries, rather than look to themselves as the cause of their problems, instead need a scapegoat, an enemy, which the dictator is always happy to provide.
Man these guys over there should read and learn this. Maybe when they figure out that capitalism creates poverty, removes social and civil liberty, america props up countries ran by tyranical dictactors.. they will figure out why the rest of the world hates them. Instead of admiting that it is their foreign policies that create this and companies abusing 3rd world nations, they use scapegoats like "Jealousy" "Religous Fanatics", "Axis of Evils"....

For the last 50 years, Israel has been the shock absorbers for Western Civilization, taking the blows, fighting the fight.
I guess that is what happens when the rest of the world just creates a country out of thin air. I wonder how well Americans would take to the UN declaring Washington, Oregon and California only allowed for Full Blooded Native Americans?

It's similar to the Cold War in that it is Freedom vs. Statism, but what makes it even more dangerous is that Islamic terrorists are so utterly irrational, so willing to kill just for the sake of killing.
There you go, make your enemy more inhuman... take away all the human qualities so it is easier to hate.
When I see Islamic people remove two cities full of people from the face of the planet then I will be ready to accept that "They Kill Just For The Sake Of Killing".

What a fucking hypocrit.
It is about the moral duty of the greatest country in the history of this planet, the United States of America, to bring freedom to all corners of the globe.

We must admit we get a certain high from puncturing the moral self-righteousness of leftists. These people claim to have a monopoly on what is good, their entire self-esteem depends on it.

Greatest Country in history of this planet? Jesus fucking christ, is that fucking Hitler speaking? Seriously, where does somebody get off on being that nationalistic? To put their value systems above everybody elses. You can like it and enjoy but to say it is the best, that is down right scary, and then to believe you have a duty to change the world by military means... That is a nationalist fascist belief system right there.

We are the only ones capable of doing it.
They even put themselves on holy pedastals... Not only is their value the system the only one, all others be damned, but they will enact this belief system, based on something like national security fears, and they will do because they are the only ones that can.

Manifest Destiny...

First you wipe out the indians then wipe out the rest of the world.

So to all the Iraqi men, women and children who at this moment are being tortured in Saddam's prisons, we have one thing to say to you: The cavalry is on its way.

Where were you 15 fuckings years ago? Why did you help support him? Hypocrits.

[Exploited Class]

They could give their Palestinian brothers a state tomorrow, and with one day's oil profits give every one of them a bar of gold. Instead, the Arab dictators prop up Arafat and his loathsome gang of oppressors, and brainwash their people to be pure monsters.
I especially like this because he says, "They could be socialists and solve the problems."

The richest people in the world could give one bar of gold to everyperson as well and that would solve poverty. Well of course not because then gold would be worthless, and if they did it with money inflation would kick in and make it worthless, something that they don't talk about much over there. The flaws of capitalism, capitalism requires people to be in poverty to work. Anyhow, the web admin suggest that they should use socialsim to solve the problem.

He uses the term monsters again, it helps dehumanize your enemy so it is easier to dislike them. And not just monsters mind you, but PURE MONSTERS. Meaning 100% monster 0% human.

They Arab dictators prop up Arafat and his loathsome gang of oppressors...

I wonder how S. America views the United States and Pinochet???

[Invader Zim]

Although I saulte youfor single handedly destroying their entire ideology, EC.I have to ask... how long did that post take!

[peaccenicked]

Well done EC. I was too irrate to go into detail. Still am.

[maderic]

Why is that you people can't tolerate our [ProtestWarrior's] views? You hate us that bad? We're not Nazis....We're not fascists...

Are we conservative? Yes, most of us our...

Are we Republicans? Very few of us....the majority of us are Libertarians, Constitutionalists, "Neo-Cons"--as you guys would call us, and Madericans, like myself....

Do we hate the left? Not necessarly...I do hate certain leaders in the Left... but I would never simply generalize the entire ideology as bad...I don't agree with most of what you believe, but I don't care if you are like that...

On your "Guerilla Posting" thread, (which has been seemingly deleted), I noticed that your "guerilla posting" tactics included: spamming, trolling, flaming, and even suggesting to hack our site....

You hate us so much you want to damage our personal property? ProtestWarrior is private property, even though you people don't believe in such things...It's owned by the people who made the site....

How would one of you feel if I came to your house and walked off with your computer? Would you stop me? Since it's your private property....

Hacking a site because you don't agree with their ideology is akin to setting a house on fire because you don't like the people who live there....granted, I'm sure some of you aren't above committing arson to a conservative's household....

Maderic......

[Exploited Class]

Why is that you people can't tolerate our [ProtestWarrior's] views? You hate us that bad? We're not Nazis....We're not fascists...

You are right, my friend called from the National Socialist Party and said "please don't call them Nazis it makes us look bad"

Are we conservative? Yes, most of us our...
Really Jesus, thanks for clearing that up, I thought you were all Liberal college Proffesor that worked for CNN.

Are we Republicans? Very few of us....the majority of us are Libertarians, Constitutionalists, "Neo-Cons"--as you guys would call us, and Madericans, like myself....
What the fuck is the point of this? Great so you are more insane than Republicans, great. Thanks for clearing all the up for us. Considering we don't even like the democratic party, what makes you think we care that you are in a third party split from Republicans?

Do we hate the left? Not necessarly...I do hate certain leaders in the Left... but I would never simply generalize the entire ideology as bad...I don't agree with most of what you believe, but I don't care if you are like that...
Man this statement is going to come back to bite you in the ass in a few more sentences. And since when did you speak for everybody at your board? I read it, I posted the F.A.Q. here, and yes most of you hate the left.

You hate us so much you want to damage our personal property? I would never simply generalize the entire ideology as bad
No, not damage, we are communist, we will just take your personal property.

ProtestWarrior is private property
What? Seriously? I thought it was public property, like a swimming pool. Jesus again, you are just clearing so much up with this post.

even though you people don't believe in such things...It's owned by the people who made the site....
Damn straight we don't believe in those things. I walk into any house I want and just sleep there if I want.

How would one of you feel if I came to your house and walked off with your computer?
Man these are deep questions. Do you take philosphy in college?

Would you stop me?
Maybe, If I was in the middle of doing something on the computer, otherwise, eh you probably need it more than myself.

Since it's your private property....
But wait, you said earlier we don't believe in private property... hey, we have private property???

Hacking a site because you don't agree with their ideology is akin to setting a house on fire because you don't like the people who live there
Only if the people aren't home and live in 0's and 1's.

I'm sure some of you aren't above committing arson to a conservative's household....I would never simply generalize the entire ideology as badIt's true, communist do set fires to homes everyday. But only, and only if, there are children or disabled people inside, else it just isn't worth it for our evil, evil house setting fire hearts.

Maderic......
Dipshiteric

[Hawker]

Damn EC!You just killed the guy,resurrected him,then killed him again.Nice dude!

[Xvall]

Everyone should calm down. This isn't a very big issue. I'm not all that conscerned about the protestwarriors being here. We were at a lack of capitalists/right-wingers as it was. As a matter of fact, they are the only non-leftists I can think of one the board. And be a little nicer EC. No need to call him 'dipshiterik'; doesn't exactly paint the image of a professional argument.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 12 2003, 11:14 PM
Everyone should calm down. This isn't a very big issue. I'm not all that conscerned about the protestwarriors being here. We were at a lack of capitalists/right-wingers as it was. As a matter of fact, they are the only non-leftists I can think of one the board. And be a little nicer EC. No need to call him 'dipshiterik'; doesn't exactly paint the image of a professional argument.
Sorry, but I don't think somebody coming onto a message board, painting themselves as the nice, middle ground kind of person that doesn't hate or generalize but ends up saying we are the types that wouldn't mind burning downs houses in sly undertones as proffesional.

I'm a mirror, I reflect back that which is thrown at me. Talk like I dipshit and I will call you on it. Look at my other posts where people weren't being that obnoxiously hypoctrical and you will notice my lack of uncouthness.

[Romulus]

Protest Warriors dont seek to slander the left, they simply seek to expose post-humanitarian leftist fundamentalists for what they are. When exposed the left slanders itself.

[dopediana]

just one word for EC:

touché

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 02:15 AM
Protest Warriors dont seek to slander the left, they simply seek to expose post-humanitarian leftist fundamentalists for what they are. When exposed the left slanders itself.
I know of some people that don't think before they open their mouth, they just talk without even thinking. Now I know people who type without thought.

Do you even put any type of thought prior to typing? Or do you just lie automatically?

Protest Warriors dont seek to slander the left
The whole freaking website is nothing but slandering and mud throwing at the left. It serves no other purpose. And just because the website says 'most leftist', doesn't mean it isn't trying to say 'all leftist'. I like that little protective shield of using the word most, to protect oneself from being called a generalizer and stereotypist.

Most leftist anti-war protesters and pundits don't understand this. They state that this use of force is always unnecessary -- that war, ANY war, is never good. Some of them, born into the luxury of American freedom, believe that liberty can exist passively, that somehow the world's natural state will always settle into utopian harmony. Others, in an attempt to absolve themselves from the unearned guilt they harbor living in a nation of prosperity and wealth, try to buy morality on the cheap by pronouncing themselves for the 'good'. To them, the derivation of the 'good' is based on a simple, yet peculiar standard: the powerful and competent are wicked, while the feeble and impotent are innocent - regardless of the context. That is why they defend Iraq instead of America, and the Palestinian "resistance" instead of Israel.
Yah that isn't slander at all.

These leftists usually carry the loudest megaphones. And left unchallenged, their voices are heard disproportionately, demoralizing our troops, and emboldening dictators around the world
Nope no slander yet.

However, their self-righteous messages go silent quickly when the truth of history and reality is thrown back in their face.

Nope no slander.

The left is very skillful when it comes to hiding their true beliefs.

These people claim to have a monopoly on what is good, their entire self-esteem depends on it.

moral self-righteousness of leftists.

Evil is impotent on its own, and we want to do everything we can to cordon them off from decent society.

Not one bit of ill-will, generalizations, de-humanizations, muddslinging, slandering, twisting or spinning going on over there at all.

[CommieKiller]

Ah.....poetic justice. So tell me. How does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot?

[Don't Change Your Name]

Look at some quotes I took yesterday from their forums and I saved in my pc because it prooves that they are very stupid.


Liberty means that you have the liberty to crack someone upside the head and eat him. Obviously not my bag, but that's what they advocate.

Here someone is talking about "Libertarian Socialism" (Anarchism). They were discussing if "socialism" and "libertarianism" are compatible. Of course they think that "socialism = commanded economy by a tyrant totalitarian state" and that "libertarianism = capitalist without the state or reducing its functions to the minimal", so they see it impossible and unexistant. It seems they never heard from leftist anarchism, and the fact that this guy pointed out something like that shows that he is one of those who would commit such atrocities. of course they have no idea of what anarchism stands for.


The rest of Hitler's mainfesto was aimed mainly at the Jews but in Hitler's day it was very common for Leftists to be antisemitic. And the increasingly pervasive anti-Israel sentiment among the modern-day Left -- including the Canadian government -- shows that modern-day Leftists are not even very different from Hitler in that regard. Modern-day anti-Israel protestors still seem to think that dead Jews are a good thing.

This post was one of the many right wing attemps to explain why hitler was a leftist (sic). This cappie bastard confuses a country (Israel) with a "race"/religion, trying to say its the same thing.

I will check later to see more stupid things they post, but this 2 already show enough about their reactionary ideals.

[Exploited Class]

Originally posted by [email protected] 13 2003, 01:51 PM
Ah.....poetic justice. So tell me. How does it feel to have the shoe on the other foot?
I just showed hands down that your boy is a liar, or he is disillusioned with the motives of that website, and that is all you can say?

But of course that is what you would say, you aren't going to own up to being hypocrits or liars, you would just rather derail the facts and say some smart ass little remark.

Just keep playing the "We are innocent of such allegations... we are good people" card.

Just say the truth and be honest, "Yes we hate the left, we slander the left, we will use any dirty tactic to discredit them, we are closed minded and will lie and say anything no matter how dishonest to make ourselves look good and everyone else that we disagree with bad."

[Bolshevika]

Really, why do we give two fucks about these Protest warrior wankers?

How many protest warrior counter-demonstrations happened in Europe? Asia? South America? Were they even that big here in America?

Of course not. They are a small minority who nobody listens to anyway. Millions of anti-imperialists marched, whilst a few hundred of the fascists went out of their way to demonstrate. They are a minority of infiltrators we must certainly look out for, but shouldn't pay much mind to.