Do you have any leftist familly members?

[TheRedAnarchist23]

I have thought up a theory that advocates that some people are hereditarily more receptive to leftist theories.

My grandfather is a communist.

Do you have any leftist familly members?

I need to know this to prove my theory.

[Blake's Baby]

So what you're saying is, you're more likely to be a communist if 75% of your grandparents aren't? That doesn't seem very likely.

What is more likely is that you were bought up in an environment where being a communist wasn't seen as all that unusual. Nothing to do with heredity, everything to do with environment.

[Azraella]

My family is liberal with some Strasserites on my Dad's side of the family. So no not really.

[Bronco]

Pretty sure that I don't have any

[Lobotomy]

Hahahaha no.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

I was not raised in such a system, my grandfather never spoke to me about communism.

I was relating heredity to the fact that some people are more receptive to leftist tendencies than others.

Anyways, do you have any leftist familly members.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

3 to 1.

This is not looking good to my theory

[Misanthrope]

Nah, they're all either apolitical or knee jerk right wing.

[Zav]

I suspect that my uncle is a Lolbertarian. That's as Leftist as my family gets. Seriously, it's really bad.:(

[Ele'ill]

I have no family.

[Luc]

3 to 1.

This is not looking good to my theory

its a terrible theory thats why sorry mate :/

oh yeah i got none either came to leftism via music and reading wikipedia

[TheRedAnarchist23]

6 to 1.

Maybe the people with leftist family members are not saying anything just so my theory is considered false.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

its a terrible theory thats why sorry mate :/

There are no terrible theories (except political theories), all must be tested through !!!!SCIENCE!!!!

[wsg1991]

my father identify himself as a Maoist ,

my uncle from my my mother side was a communist assassinated by Bourguiba political police in 1983

i am not a communist neither did my father influences me in my political studies , but he got me interested in politics since i was young

[RedAnarchist]

Most of my family are your typical working class, mildly left-leaning Labour supporters. One of my brothers is further to the left, but not revolutionary, whilst another brother is similar, but more typically liberal. He lives in Spain with his Spanish girlfriend, who seems to be a supporter of the PSOE.

[Caj]

My family is largely apolitical.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

6 to 3 now.

@RedAnarchist

If most of your familly is left-leaning it can either be hereditary or conditioning. Iwill count it as hereditary.

[RedAnarchist]

6 to 3 now.

@RedAnarchist

If most of your familly is left-leaning it can either be hereditary or conditioning. Iwill count it as hereditary.

I wouldn't call most of them them left-leaning, I would say they were more centrist than anything.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

I wouldn't call most of them them left-leaning, I would say they were more centrist than anything.

Then it is conditioning so

7 to 2

[Luc]

10 bucks says its conditioning come on guys i need this for a pair of boots :crying:

[Bronco]

I fully support theRedAnarchist's theory

[TheRedAnarchist23]

10 bucks says its conditioning come on guys i need this for a pair of boots :crying:

OK you win my theory has been proven wrong through !!!SCIENCE!!!

How come I have not been subjected to conditioning yet I am an anarchist, maybe I conditioned myself when I begun thinking this system is not good and it should be replaced for a better one.

So through this experiment we can conclude that heredity has nothing to do with receptivity towards leftist ideologies.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

or maybe

heredity does have a role but it is rare.

[The Young Pioneer]

They'd probably buy it if you convince them leftism (leftivism? leftistism? leftisticistism?) is the recessive gene. :rolleyes:


Everyone in my family is right wing 'cept my mom and her brother, who are Obama-worshippers.

And if my dad actually takes the time to vote it's for Ron Paul.

So, no. :closedeyes:

[Tenka]

Everyone in my family is right-wing to varying extents. I'm glad I'm not near most of them.

[Blake's Baby]

...

Maybe the people with leftist family members are not saying anything just so my theory is considered false.

Yeah, that's it. Those of us who know we were genetically predisposed to being communists have decided not to mention it so that we can't find THE TRUTH (that we should only breed with other communists) because actually we want the bourgeoisie to win; which means that really we're not communists, which means that the theory doesn't work.

[Nox]

Nope. I have quite a few far-right family members though.

[Sasha]

here is an intresting one for your theory; most family members on my mums side where indeed communists, but i never knew any of them as they where all killed by the nazi's. i would say they where a big influence on me becoming a leftist yet i would still say thats more nurture than nature.
my mum is an former greens councilmember, my dad is a social-dem btw

[Pretty Flaco]

nobody in my family has really ever said anything political but most are active in unions.

[Lev Bronsteinovich]

Ah, the old nature vs. nurture argument. Well, my father was in the right wing of the Socialist Party in the late 1930s and early 40s. My oldest sister was something of a Marxist. I got interested through reading some of her books starting when I was about 16. There could be some genetic aspects to openness to ideas that run contrary to accepted wisdom -- probably it is a combination of environment and genes -- and my guess is that environment plays a far larger role than genes.

[El Oso Rojo]

I have ex revolutionary leaning people in my family, and I have a bunch of fudies who politics can be progressive when it comes to economics, but not they are socially conservative.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

No, my family is either liberal or conservative centrist. I am the only revolutionary.

[Rafiq]

Ideology and "Belief" and so on have nothing to do with genetics. Fuck, just look at Marx's parents. Darwin's parents.

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[Pretty Flaco]

because a persons beliefs are similar to their parents doesnt suggest a genetic cause. beliefs are all the result of socialization + a persons circumstances.

[Manifesto]

Hahahaha no, they're all white supremacists.

[Fawkes]

Most of my family's vaguely leftist to varying degrees. My dad is probably best described as a social democrat. I think my mom was largely apolitical, but she died years ago, so I'm not sure. My one sister has described herself as an anarchist, though her actions lead me to believe she is also more aptly described as a social democrat. My other sister is largely apolitical, though her brain works in very unusual ways, leading her to have surprisingly intelligent insights that seemingly come out of nowhere. She's the type of person that, while relatively ignorant of political theory, could still hold her own in a debate if she wanted to just by using her very unique yet impressive logic.

I have no idea about my grandparents on my mom's side. My dad's parents were both liberal, though I give my grandpa credit for being an outspoken critic of the Vietnam War from the time it started (a very risky move given his status as a prominent nuclear scientist whose job required extensive governmental clearance). My grandma is deeply religious, leading her to have many reactionary social views, but is perhaps the most generous and caring person I've ever met.




oh, and the whole genetics thing? nahhhh

[#FF0000]

nah my familys mostly apolitical

they just taught me to read books and ask questions while i was growing up and later went like "OH WAIT RESPECT AUTHORITY TOO FUCK WAIT SHIT" but it was too late

[Landsharks eat metal]

Not at all. My dad keeps telling me about how he went through a communist phase when he was my age, but ultimately stopped when he realized that it's against human nature. (I'm doubting he was too far into it if he was so easily defeated by the bullshit human nature argument. That, and, before I was a leftist, he told me it was because he was scared of the way people would think of him if they knew he was a communist. I just don't care nearly as much about my image, so that argument wouldn't work with me.

My mother and sister are liberals, my father is somewhat conservative, my grandparents were supporting Rick Santorum until he dropped out of the race. I don't know about the rest of my family, but they're from conservative areas, so it seems unlikely that they'd be too leftist.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

So, my theory has just been destroyed/proved wrong by !!!SCIENCE!!!


It amazes me how there are so many people here who don't have any leftist family members.


Yeah, that's it. Those of us who know we were genetically predisposed to being communists have decided not to mention it so that we can't find THE TRUTH (that we should only breed with other communists) because actually we want the bourgeoisie to win; which means that really we're not communists, which means that the theory doesn't work.


You should have read post #52, it explains everything.

[Firebrand]

New theory, what if radicalism has a genetic aspect. The beliefs themselves are based on random factors but the strength with which they are held has a genetic componant. It would explain how hardline conservatives can produce radical lefties :D

[Goblin]

My mom is a social democrat and my dad is a conservative (norwegian conservative. if he lived in the us he would be a democrat/liberal).

I have a marxist-leninist uncle but im not really in contact with him. Probably see him once every 2nd year.

[Permanent Revolutionary]

All my mother's family are Social-Democrats, but she is what I would like to call a closeted marxist. You get hints from her, but not more than that, but she has instrumental in helping me (indirectly) forming my politics.

[Yugo45]

Well, I don't really belive in your theory, but both of my real grandfathers and one grandmother were communists when they were alive. My mother holds some leftist beliefs.

[DasFapital]

my dad's a godless lefty. That's why the rest of my relatives have always hated him.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

A few republican uncles, super liberal uncle, pretty liberal grandma, mom is a moderate liberal, dad is a fiscal republican/ social democrat, older brother and sister are moderates/mixed. I also have relatives in Texas, so.....

My younger sister is a super liberal, and says she might be a communist, although she doesn't know much about it. There may still be hope for her.

[homegrown terror]

my brother used to wear a h&s belt buckle just to piss off my parents, but that's the closest anyone else in my family comes to being left.

[Tim Cornelis]

My grandparents were, to my knowledge, all centre-right Catholics. All my parents, uncles, aunts, cousins, and siblings are all non-religious, atheistic, centre-leftists. Possible exception being my mother who briefly supported a revolutionary anticapitalist party, but withdrew her support because it was too left. (More recently, I re-convinced her of the feasibility and desirability of socialist workers' councils democracy).

Looking at my family alone, I would say there is absolutely no hereditary aspect to it. Both theories in the bin.

[MotherCossack]

my little boy is a raving marxist-leninist...... he is called colonel cossack..... you might know him.....

[I.Drink.Your.Milkshake]

I'd consider my Grandad to be of the left, but he would never have joined a party or political group. He was a contrarian, whatever people were for he was against. If people tried to push their views onto him he would automatically react against it, but if you got him to open up of his own accord he would reveal himself to be left wing.

[Positivist]

Well my grandpa opposes gay marriage and calls blacks spooks, and my other grandpa was a leading figure in the development of New Jersey so no, not at all. They were both nice (well I've never met the developer but I'll trust my dad.) I really don't see how a theory like this could possibly work. Like there's a Dna sequence that codes for Marxism? Yea I don't think so.

[Igor]

My grandparents were fairly left but never discussed it themselves (got to hear about their activist stuff in the 50's much after they had died) and some of my older relatives even fought on the red side of the civil war. My both parents are slightly center-left liberals though, but my other siblings are all either apolitical or pretty left-wing.

[Regicollis]

My mother used to be a member of the Communist Party of Denmark back in her youth and my father has always had left-leaning sympathies without ever being a member of a party (although he has become more conservative on cultural issues).

[Ostrinski]

I come from a conservative military family, no leftists to my knowledge.

[Red Rabbit]

My mom, dad and brother are all Lolbertarians. The rest of my family are conservative as fuck and incredibly annoying.