Nazi war criminal, Klaas Faber, dies at 93 safe in Germany

[Princess Luna]

BERLIN (Reuters) - A Nazi war criminal who escaped from a Dutch jail and lived as a fugitive in Germany for 60 years has died at the age of 90, the Simon Wiesenthal Center said on Monday.
Klaas Carel Faber, number two on the Center's list of most wanted Nazi criminals, was sentenced to death in 1947 in the Netherlands for the killings of at least 11 people at a staging post for Dutch Jews being taken to concentration camps.
His sentence was commuted to life imprisonment but he escaped in 1952 and fled to Germany, where he became a citizen and had lived since 1961 in the Bavarian town of Ingolstadt.
He had long resisted attempts by his native Netherlands to extradite him and died shortly before prosecutors in Ingolstadt were preparing to detain him, said Efraim Zuroff, head of the Israel office of the Simon Wiesenthal Nazi-hunting group.
"The decision was imminent. We know the state prosecutors in Ingolstadt supported sending Faber to jail to serve the rest of his life sentence," Zuroff told Reuters.
It was the second death this year of a top Nazi criminal. John Demjanjuk, a retired U.S. engine mechanic, died in March aged 91 in Germany. A Munich court convicted him in 2011 for his role in the killing of 28,000 Jews as a Nazi death camp guard.
Zuroff said Faber, a member of the Dutch SS, had killed at least 24 people, many of them at the Westerbork transit camp, from where Dutch Jews were taken to concentration camps in the Netherlands, Poland and Germany.
Victims included Jews and Dutch citizens who had tried to hide and protect them, he said.
Faber's older brother Piet, also a member of the SS, was shot by a firing squad after the war.
Dutch efforts to extradite Faber were frustrated by a German law from 1943 that prevented extradition of German nationals for war crimes.
A state court in Duesseldorf ruled in 1957 that it had insufficient evidence to try Faber. But following the high-profile Demjanjuk trial, German prosecutors reopened investigations of Nazi-era crimes.
Local media reported that Faber died in a hospital in Ingolstadt on Thursday.
The Simon Wiesenthal Center's most wanted Nazi war criminal is Hungarian Laszlo Csatary, 95, who is accused of helping organise the deportation of more than 15,000 Jews to the Auschwitz concentration camp from the Slovakian city of Kosice in 1944.
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/dutch-nazi-fugitive-faber-dies-germany-90-152010520.html
I hope what ever killed him was extremely painful....

[TheAltruist]

My only question is how long these Nazi War Criminals have managed to evade capture for so long. You would think that the authorities could have caught them sooner, maybe when they were in their 60's?

[Sasha]

Any SS volunteer got german citizenship, Germany doesn't extradite citizens, all his crimes where perpetrate in the Netherlands and he was already convicted for them so they couldn't prosecute him in Germany either.
Fucked up (inter)national law in short..

[Sten]

(1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution. (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations. And yet, for decades Germany has openly given protection to war criminals (who are responsible of acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the UN), in spite of agreements to the contrary.
My only question is how long these Nazi War Criminals have managed to evade capture for so long. You would think that the authorities could have caught them sooner, maybe when they were in their 60's? Other than the previously mentioned position of the German government (who refused to prosecute several Nazi officers as part of a policy of national pacification) war criminals were also given asylum, albeit covertly, in South America or in the Arab countries. And even when captured, they often managed to escape with little difficulty. Herbert Kappler, SS senior officer responsible for the massacre of 335 civilians during the occupation of Italy left the hospital where he was detained, at the age of 70, in a large suitcase.

[Igor]

Good, death sentence is fucked up. Even for Nazi war criminals.

edit: Ok I didn't see it was changed into imprisonment for life. Which still would've been useless and has only the purpose of revenge, which should be no basis for justice. Fuck the jails.

[Sasha]

technically faber wasnt given asylum, he was just a german citizen so under german constitution he couldnt be extradited.
if the dutch government moved fast enough he could have been forced to sit out the remainder of his dutch sentence in germany but until a few years ago they never couldnt be bothered to fill in the papers...

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Pity he wasn't murdered.

[Igor]

Pity he wasn't murdered.

Yeah that'd bring everyone who was killed back

[Sten]

Ah, right, former SS member. For a moment I was assuming he wasn't a German citizen since he was born in the Netherlands. I do wonder if there are technical limitations on the ability of nations to prevent the extradition of individuals wanted for crimes against the international law. Otherwise, it seems seriously screwed up.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Yeah that'd bring everyone who was killed back

I didn't say it would, it's what any Nazi war criminal deserves.

[Sasha]

Good, death sentence is fucked up. Even for Nazi war criminals.

dont run you mouth on shit you do not know the facts about, his death sentence was already in 1948 changed to life without parole before he escaped prison in 1952.
of the tens of thousands prosecuted for war crimes only 154 got an death sentence of which only 39 got actually excecuted, the nazi's killed more in a good weekend.
(besides, outside of military law the deathpenalty was already ended in 1870 in the netherlands)

[Sasha]

Ah, right, former SS member. For a moment I was assuming he wasn't a German citizen since he was born in the Netherlands. I do wonder if there are technical limitations on the ability of nations to prevent the extradition of individuals wanted for crimes against the international law. Otherwise, it seems seriously screwed up.

if they signed the ICC treaty not anymore (unless an independent commison rules that the warcriminal in question will get an fair and satisfying trial in his home country) but they can only prosecute crimes perpatrated after the 1st of july 2002

[wsg1991]

no i am for more extreme measures , it's hard to find human subject to do scientific and medical experiences , i am for even vivisection without anesthesia . and don't worry they are totally OK with it , as they did it to others

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

no i am for more extreme measures , it's hard to find human subject to do scientific and medical experiences , i am for even vivisection without anesthesia . and don't worry they are totally OK with it , as they did it to others

We are not the enemy nor should allow ourselves to become them, comrade, while I do understand the sentiment as my people were murdered in droves at the hands of the Nazis. A simple shot to the back of the head or hanging should suffice. I would even settle for a fatal mugging.

[dodger]

dont run you mouth on shit you do not know the facts about, his death sentence was already in 1948 changed to life without parole before he escaped prison in 1952.
of the tens of thousands prosecuted for war crimes only 154 got an death sentence of which only 39 got actually excecuted, the nazi's killed more in a good weekend.
(besides, outside of military law the deathpenalty was already ended in 1870 in the netherlands)

Not for Indonesians, I'll wager. never the less, 1870, I am impressed, psycho. All credit to the Dutch. A full century before us in UK---1969--last execution 1964.

[Princess Luna]

Not for Indonesians, I'll wager. never the less, 1870, I am impressed, psycho. All credit to the Dutch. A full century before us in UK---1969--last execution 1964.
They are still behind San Marino which executed it's last person in 1468

[wsg1991]

We are not the enemy nor should allow ourselves to become them, comrade, while I do understand the sentiment as my people were murdered in droves at the hands of the Nazis. A simple shot to the back of the head or hanging should suffice. I would even settle for a fatal mugging.

, i am merely applying their own set of value against them , it has nothing to do with me


BTW each world power has done it's share on human testing
Britain , France , USA , Japan , and Nazi Germany . USSR and China has very likely done the same

here is few examples : MK-ultra (psychology \ psychiatry) \ twins organs transplant (Immunology ) \ Algerian Sahara human testing ( biophysics ) \ unit 731 ... and the list goes on

it would be prudent to regulate such thing .

[Sasha]

Not for Indonesians, I'll wager. never the less, 1870, I am impressed, psycho. All credit to the Dutch. A full century before us in UK---1969--last execution 1964.

Obviously, although as the dutch still considerd Indonesia dutch and called the war there a "police" action and not a military one officially no one could and therefore no one officially got executed, hence that the courtcases Indonesian widows are now waging against the state start to look quite successful...