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Futility Personified
26th May 2012, 21:06
Just wanting an outline of their policies from any greek comrades?
In addition to the question, the question of whether they are reformists or revolutionary, shut the fuck up, revolution may not constitute bombing shit to bits, but it may as well do as the consensus of the definition seems to apply to normal people, revolutionary shit won't happen from parliament, bomb a sweet shop or shut the fuck up moaners.
KurtFF8
26th May 2012, 22:15
This article was helpful for me http://paulmasonnews.tumblr.com/post/22914870033/greece-trying-to-understand-syriza
Vladimir Innit Lenin
26th May 2012, 22:47
They're democratic (i.e. parliamentary) Socialists who oppose the conditions of the bailout fund (from Germany), but support continued EU membership for Greece.
I'm surprised they haven't brought up Germany and France's really, really dirty role in the whole debt crisis. It's surely a massive story waiting to explode...that Greece spent years buying a ridiculous amount of old weaponry from the two countries, and now Germany (amongst others) is bailing the Greeks out, even though it was the pressure exerted on Greece to keep up the military spending by Germany and France that was partially responsible for the Greek debt crisis as it is right now (or if not responsible, certainly exaggerated its ill effects!).
Agathor
26th May 2012, 23:34
They're proper socialists. There are Keynesians in there but in a minority.
However, they probably won't be able to abolish the Greek bourgeoisie if they take power.
piet11111
27th May 2012, 12:17
In addition to the question, the question of whether they are reformists or revolutionary, shut the fuck up, revolution may not constitute bombing shit to bits, but it may as well do as the consensus of the definition seems to apply to normal people, revolutionary shit won't happen from parliament, bomb a sweet shop or shut the fuck up moaners.
The question of what makes a party revolutionary or reformist is not the methods but their end goal.
A party that doesn't work towards the abolishment of capitalism is never going to be revolutionary.
That they publicly state that they desire to renegotiate the terms of the debt payments and that they will do everything they can to remain in the EU should be more then enough to tell anyone listening where they stand on revolution or reformism.
Imposter Marxist
27th May 2012, 16:06
They support state-capitalism in Greece.
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