Black armband with red star print

[nomad05273k]

What's your stance on this? I'd like to get one to wear at protests and shit but I don't want people getting the wrong idea, most people associate armbands with Nazis haha the only leftist who I've seen wearing one is Zack de la Rocha from RATM. I thought it looked pretty awesome. This is the one I want, tell me what you think http://www.vanessatreasure.co.uk/manufacturing/red_star_armband.htm or I'll make my own

[Zav]

Yeah don't do that. People will associate it with militarism and media 'Anarchism'.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Wear a red scarf around your neck like pioneers would in the USSR or Yugoslavia or other such nations.

Or since you are an Anarchist, get a red and black scarf.

like this one:

http://www.lacolumna.org.uk/lacolumna_files/buyers%20guide%20files/uniformes%20militares/6.jpg

[Misocratist]

My stance on this? My stance is that left anarchism shouldn't be reduced to a fashion statement you can steal from rock singers because it looks "pretty awesome".

EDIT:

By wearing such a symbol, anarchism is wearing you: I'm tired of people thinking of anarchism as a RATM-listening teenager kind of thing. By reducing ideology to fashion, you'd be contributing its discredit as a mere counter-cultural lifestyle, something you'll grow out of when you'll "get a haircut and get a real job". At best, I'd show up at the protest wearing a red and black necktie; better still, I'd show up dressed in my serious-if-casual clothing, with adequate flyers so as to explain my political stances.

[Luc]

arms bands are pretty cool though i wouldnt go for something like that prob just tie and red or black piece of cloth around my arm

[StalinInAScarf]

Black cod piece. Safe and cool looking.

[nomad05273k]

Black cod piece. Safe and cool looking.

Haha I was waiting for that to come up, there's always one...

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Bandannas to wear around your face is the general leftist fashion accessory... but yeah, never ask Rev-Left for fashion advice.

[Misanthrope]

Bandannas to wear around your face is the general leftist fashion accessory...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Marx_old.jpg/220px-Marx_old.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Bakunin.png/220px-Bakunin.png


http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/kropotkin/kropotkin2a.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Emma_Goldman_seated.jpg/220px-Emma_Goldman_seated.jpg

nope no bandannas there

OP: seriously if you generally care about worker's position in society, idt that what you wear matters. If anything you are wasting money that could go towards a leftist cause.

[Misocratist]

nope no bandannas there

OP: seriously if you generally care about worker's position in society, idt that what you wear matters. If anything you are wasting money that could go towards a leftist cause.


Not bandanna, but a beard: even Emma Goldman had a beard.

[Misanthrope]

Not bandanna, but a beard: even Emma Goldman had a beard.

yeah op if you want to look "revolutionary" or "leftist" grow a beard and get a god damn suit

[Luc]

Clearly yall have never heard of rednecks, young pioneers (as Valter said) or black bloc if you think bandanas arent much to the left (historically) :/

bandanas ftw!

[Rafiq]

Don't do it...

On an unrelated note, armbands originate with Leftists.. Bolsheviks had them, Spanish Civil War-esque people had them, and in may 68 both Anarchists and "Marxians" wore them..

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[Rafiq]

The classic "fashian" of Western Leftists were leather jackats, a beret, and a Red armband. If you dress like that now you're a clown, but it did look cool for it's time.

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[Ele'ill]

This is a weird conversation. Dress to fit the type of demo. Ninja or don't. Want lots of nice colors for either situation? Banners, shields and flags.

[Prometeo liberado]

I would let show off my politics by my ability to persuade as well as my actions. Be an innovator and leave the past where it died. At least make up your won design if you really feel the need to go all "tankie".

p.s. On secod thought I know your gonna order it anyway so have fun marching around your room playing Bolshi.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

My stance on this? My stance is that left anarchism shouldn't be reduced to a fashion statement you can steal from rock singers because it looks pretty awesome.

EDIT:

By wearing such a symbol, anarchism is wearing you: I'm tired of people thinking of anarchism as a RATM-listening teenager kind of thing. By reducing ideology to fashion, you'd be contributing to the discredit of it as a mere counter-cultural lifestyle, something you'll grow out of when you'll "get a haircut, real clothes and a real job". At best, I'd show up at the protest wearing a red and black necktie; better still, I'd show up dressed in my serious-if-casual clothing, with adequate flyers so as to explain my political stances.

Couldn't agree more.

At most I wear a Keffiyeh at a demo so that I can stop my picture getting taken easily, but that's about it. Politics isn't about fashion statements and it's not about flag, scarf, bandanna or indeed armband-waving!

[StalinFanboy]

Why would you want to make yourself that much more easily recognizable?

[Ele'ill]

Couldn't agree more.

At most I wear a Keffiyeh at a demo so that I can stop my picture getting taken easily, but that's about it. Politics isn't about fashion statements and it's not about flag, scarf, bandanna or indeed armband-waving!

Perhaps, but during May Day marches I mean come on, all that red and black looks so pretty.

[Pretty Flaco]

youd look silly with the armband if you ask me. and youd really pay 16 pounds (google says thats $25) for that shit? damn just make your own or some shit if you want one so bad.

[Ocean Seal]

Make statement about leftist fashion, instant stream of replies regarding the detriment that wearing leftist stuff causes the left lol.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I myself prefer the bandannas around my face... though I only wear them when I feel like a revolutionary fashionistia. I have occupy to blame for that; some guy brought a ton of them and I couldn't resist.So now I have one when I want to be reminded of starving (occupy).

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Perhaps, but during May Day marches I mean come on, all that red and black looks so pretty.

Well, i'm not an anarchist myself, but I will agree that out of all those on the left, anarchist sub-culture does tend to produce the 'coolest'/'prettiest' fashion, yes! :cool:

[o well this is ok I guess]

nope no bandannas there Hey man if they wanna get identified by the cops that's their business
I mean like shit pretty sure they'd all have been arrested less if they'd been into bandanas

[StalinFanboy]

Hey man if they wanna get identified by the cops that's their business
I mean like shit pretty sure they'd all have been arrested less if they'd been into bandanas
They can still be identified by the police. I mean its more general than their face, but as soon as someone puts on a mask at a protest, they immediately become recognizable as "radical."


just something that should be thought about

[homegrown terror]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Marx_old.jpg/220px-Marx_old.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9b/Bakunin.png/220px-Bakunin.png


http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/anarchist_archives/kropotkin/kropotkin2a.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Emma_Goldman_seated.jpg/220px-Emma_Goldman_seated.jpg

nope no bandannas there

OP: seriously if you generally care about worker's position in society, idt that what you wear matters. If anything you are wasting money that could go towards a leftist cause.

three out of four are wearing bandanas, they just happen to be made of fur.

as for "fashion and the art of leftism": yes, wearing something leftist because it "looks cool" is bollocks, but solidarity through sartorial unity (as in a black bloc) can be a powerful tool. look at how the bourg put their militaries in uniforms, it causes the individuals to put aside personal feelings in favor of their common goal, and it's a tool we can use as well.

i'm not telling anyone "we must all dress alike" but our mode of dress can give us a boost in confidence with strength in numbers, what's so bad about that?

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

This is a weird conversation. Dress to fit the type of demo. Ninja or don't. Want lots of nice colors for either situation? Banners, shields and flags.

Dressing up like a ninja for protest is the best<3

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

In all seriousness, wear one if you want to, it might look interesting, but don't pay too much for it. Anything anarchist being sold for over 20 is suspicious.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

..and if you must actually buy something ensure that it is from a leftist store.

[homegrown terror]

..and if you must actually buy something ensure that it is from a leftist store.

preferrably one that doesn't get its merch made by asian children making pennies a day.

[bcbm]

but yeah, never ask Rev-Left for fashion advice.

yeah just send me a pm ill put you on the right track

[TheGodlessUtopian]

preferrably one that doesn't get its merch made by asian children making pennies a day.

That is going to be hard to find. Incidentally, someone with suitable knowledge should make a thread on how to discover where a online retailer produces their products' what conditions their laborers are in, if they are union, socialist, etc.

[homegrown terror]

or....if you want to not contribute ANY money to sweatshops in pursuit of your armband, do this:

go to a thrift store and buy any old black t-shirt (the shirt is probably sweatshop labor, but has already been paid for so your money won't go to them)

cut off one sleeve, then cut down the seam of the sleeve and spread it out flat

use a ruler to cut a straight like across, and remove the curved fabric where it attaches to the shoulder

fold half an inch of fabric down at the top and sew it up to create a second hem

cut a star shape out of a piece of cardboard. place the cardboard over the band and paint it with red spraypaint

re-sew the connecting seam and attach it to whatever item of clothing you prefer.

[black magick hustla]

yeah just send me a pm ill put you on the right track

k was surprised when she saw you cuz' she said damn he is such a fashionista lol

[PC LOAD LETTER]

That is going to be hard to find. Incidentally, someone with suitable knowledge should make a thread on how to discover where a online retailer produces their products' what conditions their laborers are in, if they are union, socialist, etc.
A little google-fu, really ... as long as it's been publicly announced at some point (even accidentally or by someone else) you can find it ...

maybe a whois query on the domain name if you're unsure of the business's actual name. they could be Widgets Inc d/b/a Omahgawd Clothing but it may not say that anywhere on the web site, just in the domain reg info, or not at all ... if you find it, then a call to their secretary of state's office (if in the US) will glean more publicly-available info on the biz that could help, including names and addresses that could be linked to another more visible company that announces, I dunno, factories in Vietnam or something in an obscure press release

there's not really one single way to do it and a lot of companies keep this shit under wraps. I know for a fact that you can get away with slapping "Made in USA" on shit with little in the way of actually making something here ... and those companies don't announce that the widget was made in a sweatshop somewhere (like Vietnam or Thailand), then modified slightly here, then slapped with a Made in USA tag, it's usually kept under wraps even though it's legal

Now that you mention it I might do a Mutual Aid thread later on a beginner's tutorial for finding public-but-not-so-obvious information on businesses

[Os Cangaceiros]

Just wear tight pants and a keffiyeh, you'll fit right in.

[o well this is ok I guess]

They can still be identified by the police. I mean its more general than their face, but as soon as someone puts on a mask at a protest, they immediately become recognizable as "radical."


just something that should be thought about It's ok to be identified as a radical, so long as you're not identified as yourself. Know what I'm sayin?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Also, in regards to the companies getting away with being able to say "Made in the USA" many companies put a tag on a product which says that when the product isn't actually made here;the reason they can do that legally is because the tag which says,"Made in the USA" was actually made in the USA (with the product itself being made in a sweatshop thousands of miles away).

[homegrown terror]

Also, in regards to the companies getting away with being able to say "Made in the USA" many companies put a tag on a product which says that when the product isn't actually made here;the reason they can do that legally is because the tag which says,"Made in the USA" was actually made in the USA (with the product itself being made in a sweatshop thousands of miles away).

used to work for a company assembling electronics, we'd get every component from mexico, but since we put three pieces together (or sometimes just put em in the same box with a different label) they'd be tagged "MADE IN USA")

[TheAltruist]

How about you dress like a 19th Century classical radical (Suit, beard, tie, etc) AND wear an armband with a handkerchief around your face? That way you'd look like Lenin at a black bloc riot. :thumbup1:

[bcbm]

k was surprised when she saw you cuz' she said damn he is such a fashionista lol

nothin wrong with lookin good


Just wear tight pants and a keffiyeh, you'll fit right in.

keffiyehs are so 2007 dude

[wunks]

anarchist subculture has actually managed to be even more aggravating than standard leftist subculture. it's more impressive than anything else.

[wunks]

Perhaps, but during May Day marches I mean come on, all that red and black looks so pretty.it's nice to know that pro-revolutionaries look nice and pretty. really I'm basically just in it for the tumblr pictures.

[Ele'ill]

it's nice to know that pro-revolutionaries look nice and pretty. really I'm basically just in it for the tumblr pictures.


lol you're still upset


I don't really care how people dress but if you're going to make a banner just make sure everyone can read it. I don't think it matters much if you buy material for a flag to make your own or buy a flag from somewhere.

[Red_Morg98]

Seems a bit expensive, probably be better to make one yourself. As for the fashion thing, as long as you're wearing it to show people what you believe in and what you stand for and not because it looks 'cool', I don't what the problem is.

[Ele'ill]

oh yeah this thread. tumblr/instagram/friends/drink is the best part of ritualized protest

[PhoenixAsh]

don't wear any identifying items to protests.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Black cod piece. Safe and cool looking.

Savini's Sex Machine cod piece from Dusk till Dawn.

http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/fd/FDTD-COD-2.jpg/600px-FDTD-COD-2.jpg

I want like a Red Guard armband. Seems pretty cool. Fuck what anyone says. It looks neat. Fuck em.


keffiyehs are so 2007 dude

Cute never expires bruh

[Ele'ill]

don't wear any identifying items to protests.


especially your own face make sure to leave that at home

[PhoenixAsh]

especially your own face make sure to leave that at home

In some cases that would be wise ;)

But otherwise...when you don't feel like going all in a Face Off kind of way...then wearing non distinct glasses, and a hoodie will do wonders

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

In some cases that would be wise ;)

But otherwise...when you don't feel like going all in a Face Off kind of way...then wearing non distinct glasses, and a hoodie will do wonders

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