Chris McCandless

[nomad05273k]

Chris (or Alex Supertramp) is someone who I greatly admire and respect. One day I would like to follow his journey from Atlanta to Alaska whilst passing through Arizona, California, South Dakota, Colorado, Mexico, Los Angeles, Slab City and Salton City along the way. Backpacking the whole time of course. By the way if you haven't seen the movie or read the book, Into the Wild, I'd highly recommend it. Chris will be someone who most of you on here will be able to relate with. He basically stuck his middle finger to his fancy lifestyle, his bourgeois parents and corrupted society in the pursuit of living independently

[Drosophila]

Pretty good movie with a really good soundtrack.

[nomad05273k]

Pretty good movie with a really good soundtrack.

Eddie Vedder + ukelele = epic

[Aurora]

That book was awful, it reminded me a lot of The Catcher in the Rye in how overrated it was and how unlikable the protagonist was. Pretentiousness embodied.

We all appreciate art differently though :p

[Rafiq]

I hate that romanticist, liberal scumbag. He was a petite bourgeois maniac who was just bored.

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[Ele'ill]

I hate that romanticist, liberal scumbag. He was a petite bourgeois maniac who was just bored.

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:lol:

[Raúl Duke]

While I liked the whole concept behind Supertramp in a way, to travel across a country and see and experience stuff that a tourist wouldn't I kinda find his whole world-view a little too idealist and too much "noble savage"-y. Plus he did seem to be quite pretentious at parts, from what I can gather from the movie.

Plus why fucking Alaska? That seems to be a harsh place for a survivalist. Also, why completely alone? (although perhaps there was a reason for Alaska; considering how you can't even find common land in most places anymore where you can roam and do such things) If I were to embark on a journey I would do it the hippie way with a bunch of other people and set up some outdoors commune that subsists by both hunting/gathering and farming.

[bcbm]

bring a map

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

The guy was a misguided and angry young man who died in the back of an abandoned bus after eating a poisoned plant. I don´t think that´s anything to glorify or romanticise. I don´t mean disrespect, but I honestly just feel sorry for the guy.

[Drosophila]

The guy was a misguided and angry young man who died in the back of an abandoned bus after eating a poisoned plant. I don´t think that´s anything to glorify or romanticise. I don´t mean disrespect, but I honestly just feel sorry for the guy.

I think he actually died from starvation, but yeah. To go out on an "adventure" with no experience whatsoever is suicide.

[Deicide]

Yeah, he died of starvation. According to wikipedia his body weighed 30kg when a hunter found it.

Plus.. he didn't bring any basic survival equipment with him, not even a compass.

Gotta agree with rafiq here, he was a romantic, liberal scumbag.

[Rafiq]

:lol:

Except I'm not Chris Mccandless who judges people for not choosing to run around naked in the woods.

And what, are Smartphones inherently petite bourgeois now?

[Ele'ill]

Except I'm not Chris Mccandless who judges people for not choosing to run around naked in the woods.

And what, are Smartphones inherently petite bourgeois now?

oh ya he was totally one of those running judgers


*He starved because the poisonous root he ate stops nutrient absorption.

[Deicide]

*

an article in Men's Journal stated that extensive laboratory testing showed there was no toxin present in McCandless's food supplies. Dr. Thomas Clausen, the chair of the chemistry and biochemistry department at UAF said "I tore that plant apart. There were no toxins. No alkaloids. I'd eat it myself." Analysis of the wild sweet pea, given as the cause of Chris’s death in Sean Penn's film, turned up no toxic compounds and there is not a single account in modern medical literature of anyone being poisoned by this species of plant. As one journalist put it: "He didn't find a way out of the bush, couldn't catch enough food to survive, and simply starved to death."

[Prometeo liberado]

I hate that romanticist, liberal scumbag. He was a petite bourgeois maniac who was just bored.

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You need to stop sugar-coating your feelings Rafiq. You make it hard to read between the lines. Remember that one positive thing you said a while back? Ya, me neither.

[Susurrus]

I once was in a swamp at midnight with alligators in a kayak, and my guide had heard about McCandless. He thought he was an idiot, and a horrible role model, in the sense that he was in no way prepared for the territory he was going into. Spend a good 10 minutes ranting about it. I agree with what he said, though I think the idea of going off grid is a fun one. Definitely prepare a lot more though, and don't be a pretentious idiot, as others have mentioned.

[Raúl Duke]

I heard Chris died by eating solely or mostly lean meats with little fat. The body needs fat and can't handle a solely protein based diet without other stuff like fats or carbs. They call it "rabbit starvation" or something.

[Prometeo liberado]

I once was in a swamp at midnight with alligators in a kayak, and my guide had heard about McCandless

Who/What is more stupid-scary, McCandless for doing what he did or Susurrus for hanging with 'gators in a kayak at midnight and bringing this subject up?:ohmy:

[Rafiq]

oh ya he was totally one of those running judgers


*He starved because the poisonous root he ate stops nutrient absorption.

Read his diaries.

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[Raúl Duke]

Who/What is more stupid-scary, McCandless for doing what he did or Susurrus for hanging with 'gators in a kayak at midnight and bringing this subject up?:ohmy:

Maybe he lives near the Everglades or in the bayou or something, just kayaking drinking some beer and seeing (maybe even hunting) some gator.

[Art Vandelay]

Read his diaries.

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Could you perhaps bring up something specific, with regard to McCandless, that you are referring to? Its been a while since I read the book, obviously the guy was an idealist and ridiculously unprepared for his adventure. Walking into the Alaskan wilderness without any supplies is tantamount to suicide, but I hardly see any reason for calling him a scumbag?

[Prometeo liberado]

Maybe he lives near the Everglades or in the bayou or something, just kayaking drinking some beer and seeing (maybe even hunting) some gator.

.....At midnight. :confused:

[Art Vandelay]

.....At midnight. :confused:

Indeed, it did seem like an odd setting to me as well....

[Ele'ill]

alligators are nocturnal

[Raúl Duke]

.....At midnight. :confused:

Outside of certain cities, life in Florida is really really boring.

I'm not surprised.

Although, it's an odd setting...like the kinda setting for a horror movie.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Could you perhaps bring up something specific, with regard to McCandless, that you are referring to? Its been a while since I read the book, obviously the guy was an idealist and ridiculously unprepared for his adventure. Walking into the Alaskan wilderness without any supplies is tantamount to suicide, but I hardly see any reason for calling him a scumbag?

People who choose to live by themselves seem to be maligned on this website. Offends some people's sensibilities or something.

Anyway, Alaska is probably the worst place in the world to just stroll out into the wilderness and try to live, with the possible exception of Death Valley or Antarctica. Being an idealist in Alaska sometimes doesn't end well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell).

[Susurrus]

Okefenokee swamp, actually. It was quite a fun time, 4 or 5 people in kayaks rowing around. The alligators were quite tame, apart from the occasional splash a couple feet away. One would not even know they were there without a flashlight, with which one can see all the gator eyes staring directly at you, surrounding your kayak.

http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/u/H6yMi6fUB_1JR964xxG8RxsYArlNNn1lR5PWutchJ4P5IbqMyf 3r62Dvhr9KqX1jQJS9OtArR_Io/

[Salyut]

You folks should watch Grizzly Man. That debate is even more entertaining.

[Os Cangaceiros]

I don't think there's any debate to be had there, lol. That guy was a big dummy, you should keep a respectful distance from massive wild animals.

[Art Vandelay]

I don't think there's any debate to be had there, lol. That guy was a big dummy, you should keep a respectful distance from massive wild animals.

No kidding. Not to mention that in his videos he dares to people to come out and try and live the way he does and says that if they try the bears will kill them. Then he contemplates on camera whether or not he is a great man. That dude was beyond pretentious; still not sure how McCandless was though.

[Crux]

Chris (or Alex Supertramp) is someone who I greatly admire and respect. One day I would like to follow his journey from Atlanta to Alaska whilst passing through Arizona, California, South Dakota, Colorado, Mexico, Los Angeles, Slab City and Salton City along the way. Backpacking the whole time of course. By the way if you haven't seen the movie or read the book, Into the Wild, I'd highly recommend it. Chris will be someone who most of you on here will be able to relate with. He basically stuck his middle finger to his fancy lifestyle, his bourgeois parents and corrupted society in the pursuit of living independently
You do remember how his story ended, don't you?