Anti-nationalism

[nomad05273k]

As many of you Brits out there know, showing your support for anti-nationalism during the 2012 Summer Olympics won't be as easy as it will be for the Americans (you hang your flag upside down, we do it, it looks the same as the right way up!). So...

[The Young Pioneer]

Ha! Never thought of that. I suppose Russia/Serbia have similar issues, considering if they flip theirs it just becomes the other's, respectively...:D

[nomad05273k]

Ha! Never thought of that. I suppose Russia/Serbia have similar issues, considering if they flip theirs it just becomes the other's, respectively...:D

Haha yes but hanging a Russian flag in Serbia may cause offence to Serbian Nationalists and vice versa. So really, job done

[honest john's firing squad]

ha imagine the japanese flag or that of the libyan jamahiriya

[Left Leanings]

As many of you Brits out there know, showing your support for anti-nationalism during the 2012 Summer Olympics won't be as easy as it will be for the Americans (you hang your flag upside down, we do it, it looks the same as the right way up!). So...

Nice one, comrade.

Sweet :) :star:

[Tim Cornelis]

I don't think flying the flag upside down is considered offensive anywhere but in the USA. At least, I've never heard of that.

[Comrade Dracula]

Haha yes but hanging a Russian flag in Serbia may cause offence to Serbian Nationalists and vice versa. So really, job done

From what I've seen of Serbian nationalists, they are quite commonly russophiles, so I doubt this would do the trick, at least as far as Serbia's considered.

[Omsk]

Haha yes but hanging a Russian flag in Serbia may cause offence to Serbian Nationalists and vice versa. So really, job done

The "relationship" between the Russian and Serbian nationalists is like that of a younger/older brother. They actually mix up the flags to create a 'Pan-Slavic flag' .

[nomad05273k]

From what I've seen of Serbian nationalists, they are quite commonly russophiles, so I doubt this would do the trick, at least as far as Serbia's considered.


The "relationship" between the Russian and Serbian nationalists is like that of a younger/older brother. They actually mix up the flags to create a 'Pan-Slavic flag' .

I was not aware of their relationship. Are they like the Tony Blair / George Bush of Eastern Europe? Haha

[honest john's firing squad]

I think burning is a much more effective and captivating technique of protest.

[Omsk]

I think burning is a much more effective and captivating technique of protest.


No.

[Misanthrope]

No.

why not?

[Omsk]

Some anarchists burned a flag here and got arrested. 9 months or so.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Slap a red star and/or a hammer and sickle on it and you'll cause much more butthurt to the nationalists.

[nomad05273k]

Some anarchists burned a flag here and got arrested. 9 months or so.

There's no law against flag desecrarion anywhere here in the UK. Where were these Anarchists who got arrested? The US?

[ВАЛТЕР]

There's no law against flag desecrarion anywhere here in the UK. Where were these Anarchists who got arrested? The US?

This was in Serbia.

Nothing but fucking nationalists and clerofascists here. :crying:

[nomad05273k]

This was in Serbia.

Nothing but fucking nationalists and clerofascists here. :crying:

Damn, I thought the UK was bad. We're getting more and more like the US everyday with people's growing support for the BNP, Conservarives etc. It won't be long before my 9 yr old cousin's standing at the front of the class pledging allegiance to a fucking flag

[ВАЛТЕР]

Our biggest hope for a revolution at the moment is if Russia has one first. The Serb nationalists/Russophiles will immediately turn into hardline Marxists...:laugh:

[The Idler]

I take it you know it actually is a little different upside down.

[nomad05273k]

I take it you know it actually is a little different upside down.

Not enough for people to actually notice

[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

Was it Submission Hold or I Spy who put it, "Flag + Flame = Fun"?
Just in case, you should probably listen to both bands. Best way to learn about Canada.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Burning has so many connotations...the popular press would be all over it making comparisons to jihadists that burn US flags, as well as denouncing 'trouble makers' or 'spoil sports' for ruining 'our' games...
Would probably use your nifty 'this way up' idea or just deface one with a suitable symbol.
*sigh* So sick of the chest thumping and flag waving and nothing's really started yet.

[Zav]

It won't be long before my nine year old cousin is standing at the front of the class pledging allegiance to a fucking flag.
Having grown up in America, that is a very strange statement. Even as politicized as I am, it is odd to know that another country's kids aren't doing that. That's how deep nationalist indoctrination goes.

[hatzel]

Burning has so many connotations...the popular press would be all over it making comparisons to jihadists

A great reason to do it, then...

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

There's no law against flag desecrarion anywhere here in the UK. Where were these Anarchists who got arrested? The US?

There's no laws against it in the US.

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

I don't think flying the flag upside down is considered offensive anywhere but in the USA. At least, I've never heard of that.

Flying it upside down was originally used to show a ship, and I think property too, was in danger, so it's a way of saying the country is in distress. If you don't know that, and you're patriotic, you would probably get butt-hurt.

[The Idler]

The observant notice.

[Rafiq]

Burning has so many connotations...the popular press would be all over it making comparisons to jihadists that burn US flags, as well as denouncing 'trouble makers' or 'spoil sports' for ruining 'our' games...
Would probably use your nifty 'this way up' idea or just deface one with a suitable symbol.
*sigh* So sick of the chest thumping and flag waving and nothing's really started yet.

"Jihadists" stole it from *us*, not the other way around.

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[Rottenfruit]

As many of you Brits out there know, showing your support for anti-nationalism during the 2012 Summer Olympics won't be as easy as it will be for the Americans (you hang your flag upside down, we do it, it looks the same as the right way up!). So...
ANti nationalism is a trivial issue to fight for and will only cause staur and anti communist sentiment in socity, alas i think things like anti nationalism is a typical thing what white privialdge communism is about.
Sorry but there are real issues people should focus on, povetry, classism, discrimination against mentally ill and racism

[Tim Finnegan]

And you don't think that nationalism plays a role in legitimising and reproducing those things?

[Rottenfruit]

And you don't think that nationalism plays a role in legitimising and reproducing those things?
Yes but burning flags and acting like a douchebag sure as hell is not goona help solving the issue of nationalism

[Psy]

Flying it upside down was originally used to show a ship, and I think property too, was in danger, so it's a way of saying the country is in distress. If you don't know that, and you're patriotic, you would probably get butt-hurt.

The upside down flags are not done anymore due to the international maritime signal flags that allow for better communications through signal flags.

[Blake's Baby]

Having grown up in America, that is a very strange statement. Even as politicized as I am, it is odd to know that another country's kids aren't doing that. That's how deep nationalist indoctrination goes.

This is something that Americans just don't seem to get.

There's a Simpsons episode where Lisa is dating an English guy. Homer puts a Union Flag on a flagpole in the garden but it gets tangled with the bugzapper and catches fire. Homer and Bart wind it down and stamp on it to try to put the fire out, then throw compost on it to smother the flames. And the English guy cries.

If that had happened in real life, the primary cause of embarrassment in the whole affair would be in wondering why Homer had flown a Union Flag in the first place. Kinda implies the Queen or possibly a GB athletics team is coming to tea. Really, honestly, no-one fucking cares. No-one would cry. The flag really isn't a symbol here in anything like the way it seems to be in the US. It just seems ridiculous to someone from Britain (OK, I haven't asked all 60 million UK residents but I really can't think anyone would give a shit).

[Clifford C Clavin]

In the Philippines, the flag is flown upside down in times of war.

In Japan, the Teachers Union has been battling the conservative party for years over the appearance of the national flag in classrooms.

[Clifford C Clavin]

Also, did you know that the American Pledge of Allegiance was created by socialist Francis Bellamy?

[aty]

In Sweden we have a classical piece of art from 1967 that is one of the more famous art pieces in our country. The nationalists goes crazy :) and when the piece was first put out in a gallery the police came and took it down.

"Betray your country, be anti-nationalist" and in the middle "kuken" which means "cock"....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_X6F4HnEqbd8/R0U7Q4eUjYI/AAAAAAAAARc/gsi9i0WMWWo/s400/de+geer+flagga

[Clifford C Clavin]

Is it famous or infamous?