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Austri Surget
19th May 2012, 04:17
Hi folks, after searching the web for places to discuss socialism and other related topics I stumbled upon this site. It seems to be a very great community!

My political ideology can be described as somewhat complex, but I can be boiled down to being called a "Southern Nationalist". I believe that the southern United States needs to succeed from the country. The North has been oppressing the farmers and workers of the South ever since the end of the Civil War. Only through socialism will we be able to stand up to the bourgeois. Also please do not think I am a racist just because I believe in succession. African-Americans are an integral part of the South and it's culture. They are welcomed in the class struggle against the fascist policies of northern politicians and capitalists. We can both overthrow our opressors and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat in the southern US.

Anyway, I hope I can have some interesting discussions with my fellow comrades.

honest john's firing squad
19th May 2012, 12:36
oh so here's what you meant to say:

the south shall rise again!:rolleyes:

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 14:51
Oh my god.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
19th May 2012, 14:53
This is gonna be fun.

The Douche
19th May 2012, 14:54
You mean, secession, dipshit.

Koba Junior
19th May 2012, 14:55
This is interesting, to say the least. But welcome.

Brosip Tito
19th May 2012, 14:59
You mean, secession, dipshit.
This is very unbecoming of an Admin..

Go infract yourself for flaming, and derailing.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:01
This is very unbecoming of an Admin..

Go infract yourself for flaming, and derailing.
Are you defending a nationalist?

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:03
This is very unbecoming of an Admin..

Go infract yourself for flaming, and derailing.

If I don't, do you promise to secede from this website?

Koba Junior
19th May 2012, 15:04
Are you defending a nationalist?

Wow. Just wow.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:04
This is gonna be fun.

It's going to be nothing because the second he posts anything in support of his OP hes going off to the gulags.

Railyon
19th May 2012, 15:05
Are you defending a nationalist?

Quite an interesting question considering this forum is brimming with all kinds of looney nationalists dressed in red.

Brosip Tito
19th May 2012, 15:05
Are you defending a nationalist?I believe there are many "left nationalists" on this website.

I am defending the rules of this forum and this particular introduction forum.

Are you defending him, by not banning him? Indeed, you are. You are also NOT defending the rules, because Cmoney should be infracted.

Oh, and CMoney, wouldn't give you the satisfaction. Someone has to be adept in Marxist/political theory around here.

I forgot though, only the plebeian users are subject to the rules of this site...admins can flame, derail, etc. and not be punished. Hypocrites.

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:06
Quite an interesting question considering this forum is brimming with all kinds of looney nationalists dressed in red.

You can't please everybody all the time...

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:06
Quite an interesting question considering this forum is brimming with all kinds of looney nationalists dressed in red.

Interesting indeed. Don't think I havent notice it.

Igor
19th May 2012, 15:07
Are you defending a nationalist?

This forum is already full of nationalists, why is suddenly a Southern nationalist so much worse? In my eyes, the issues is in no way different from issues like Scottish or Catalan independence, both being cases of "acceptable" nationalism in the left. US South isn't inherently worse than any other region in the world.

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:10
I believe there are many "left nationalists" on this website.

I am defending the rules of this forum and this particular introduction forum.

Are you defending him, by not banning him? Indeed, you are.

Oh, and CMoney, wouldn't give you the satisfaction. Someone has to be inept in Marxist/political theory around here.

Well I definitely thought you were joking, now I just think you're a douche. Maybe you just don't understand the dynamics of being a "southern nationalist" in the US, and all that it implies and entails.

While I despise the so-called "left-nationalists" on this board, to actually identify as a "southern nationalist" in respect to the US has a certain connotation which this poster is no doubt familiar with.

Koba Junior
19th May 2012, 15:10
It occurs to me that this post may have been made to get a reaction out of us. I'd say the O.P. seceded ... I mean, succeeded.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:10
Also please do not think I am a racist just because I believe in succession. African-Americans are an integral part of the South and it's culture.

Most KKKers denounce racism too. So just where in this secession Do AAs belong? Feeding the mules and swine, toting water, and bailing hay?

honest john's firing squad
19th May 2012, 15:12
Quite an interesting question considering this forum is brimming with all kinds of looney nationalists dressed in red.
and generally i'd agree, but, given what sort of political movements are aligned with southern nationalism and secession, this dude is either a white supremacist, or will eventually become a white supremacist. although he could also just be a complete moron who has terrible politics like all left-nationalists, and doesn't understand the terrible connotations that come with ideas like southern secession.

Railyon
19th May 2012, 15:12
You can't please everybody all the time...
Of course not, but that was something that just jumped in my face literally.

Maybe I'm just on this dialectical hammer-and-sickle shit and see contradictions everywhere though.

To an ultra-left troll like me all nationalisms are boo-boo though so I don't quite understand the screaming now. Maybe I should call into question the legitimacy of Democratic Korea to make this a nice round package?

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:12
I believe there are many "left nationalists" on this website.

I am defending the rules of this forum and this particular introduction forum.

Are you defending him, by not banning him? Indeed, you are. You are also NOT defending the rules, because Cmoney should be infracted.

Oh, and CMoney, wouldn't give you the satisfaction. Someone has to be adept in Marxist/political theory around here.

I forgot though, only the plebeian users are subject to the rules of this site...admins can flame, derail, etc. and not be punished. Hypocrites.

Go be useful, read a book, or a drive in the country, Bro. I will ban him when he does something bannable. Thats why people like us are admins here and well, you arent. And the way I see it, you are derailing this thread, which is a form of trolling. So stop. Now. Verbally warned.

Brosip Tito
19th May 2012, 15:14
Well I definitely thought you were joking, now I just think you're a douche. Maybe you just don't understand the dynamics of being a "southern nationalist" in the US, and all that it implies and entails.

While I despise the so-called "left-nationalists" on this board, to actually identify as a "southern nationalist" in respect to the US has a certain connotation which this poster is no doubt familiar with.
Oh, indeed, he may very well be ignorant.

Douche...why does that feel like sexist language...

However, the benefit of the doubt should be given, and questions asked in regards to the nature of "southern nationalism".

Not knee jerk rule breaking.

Bostana
19th May 2012, 15:14
Can't We All Just Ge Along?!
~Rodney King

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:14
This forum is already full of nationalists, why is suddenly a Southern nationalist so much worse? In my eyes, the issues is in no way different from issues like Scottish or Catalan independence, both being cases of "acceptable" nationalism in the left. US South isn't inherently worse than any other region in the world.

Allow me to preface this by saying that I am opposed to concept of national liberation, and do not believe that national identity has anything to do with communism, and is in fact, an impediment to it.

That said, the tendency of individuals to adopt the so-called "southron" view, and advocate things like secession for the southern US is an entirely reactionary political movement with its roots in racism, neo-feudalist economics, and generally shitty things. I don't have a problem with the south, in fact, I prefer it, but this does not make me a "southern nationalist".

Those who support secession:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Confederate

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:15
Of course not, but that was something that just jumped in my face literally.

Maybe I'm just on this dialectical hammer-and-sickle shit and see contradictions everywhere though.

To an ultra-left troll like me all nationalisms are boo-boo though so I don't quite understand the screaming now. Maybe I should call into question the legitimacy of Democratic Korea to make this a nice round package?

I suggest you stop derailing this thread as well.

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:18
Oh, indeed, he may very well be ignorant.

Douche...why does that feel like sexist language...

However, the benefit of the doubt should be given, and questions asked in regards to the nature of "southern nationalism".

Not knee jerk rule breaking.

I don't do the "benefit of the doubt", thing.

The only reason I haven't banned this user is cause I'm hoping this thread brings some laughs.

Hit The North
19th May 2012, 15:21
Well I definitely thought you were joking, now I just think you're a douche.

Hey, potty mouth. I got infracted by CotR for calling 20/20 Hindsight a douche (at least I think it was Hindsight).

I see you just get her thanks :rolleyes:.

To the OP:

You are surely living in a state of delusion if you think that there is no bourgeoisie in the Southern states. Please pull your head out of your hole.

The Douche
19th May 2012, 15:23
Hey, potty mouth. I got infracted by CotR for calling 20/20 Hindsight a douche (at least I think it was Hindsight).

I see you just get her thanks :rolleyes:.

To the OP:

You are surely living in a state of delusion if you think that there is no bourgeoisie in the Southern states. Please pull your head out of your hole.

Well I would've argued against an infraction for that language. I'm not sure how a piece of shit item which is a terrible idea and marketed as helpful, but is actually quite dangerous and destructive is sexist.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:25
Hey, potty mouth. I got infracted by CotR for calling 20/20 Hindsight a douche (at least I think it was Hindsight).

I see you just get her thanks :rolleyes:.

To the OP:

You are surely living in a state of delusion if you think that there is no bourgeoisie in the Southern states. Please pull your head out of your hole.

That is such a simplification of the truth. You did a hell of a lot more than call him a douche. You almost got banned for your tough guy rant.

Brosip Tito
19th May 2012, 15:26
Well I would've argued against an infraction for that language. I'm not sure how a piece of shit item which is a terrible idea and marketed as helpful, but is actually quite dangerous and destructive is sexist.
I guess you'd have to ask COTR, who's yet to answer why you haven't been warned or infracted for:

Sexist language/Flaming (debatable as sexist language - it is flaming)
Derailing (thread is meant for hello's not correcting grammar)
Flaming (calling the user a dipshit).

Hmmmm.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:27
I'm going to be the nice guy I am and close this thread because if it continues there's going to be some infractions and heads rolling. And its just too pretty of a Saturday morning to be getting my hands all dirty.

Le Libérer
19th May 2012, 15:32
I guess you'd have to ask COTR, who's yet to answer why you haven't been warned or infracted for:

Sexist language/Flaming (debatable as sexist language - it is flaming)
Derailing (thread is meant for hello's not correcting grammar)
Flaming (calling the user a dipshit).

Hmmmm.

Infraction for spamming this thread after 2 warnings to stop.