Is it a problem?

[Lolumad273]

I had asked a while ago how old everyone was, and I'm almost 18. I'm a senior in high school, and a vocal communist while in economics class. The issue is that people have begun to recognize me as a Communist, and I'm worried about my employer finding out. I work at a local garden center. Anyone in my age group have problems like this? Anyone of any age have issues with employers?

Thanks!

[Koba Junior]

I haven't had any such problem, but if you're afraid of losing your job, it'd be best to keep your communism under wraps. That isn't to say you must deny you who are, but the spread of that kind of information could pose potential obstacles that you may prefer to avoid rather than confront.

[Rafiq]

Don't be an annoying elitist high school shitbag who takes things seriously. Try to seperate your social life from your theoretical and political in the most efficient way (do not divorce them, i.e. Don't be a racist piss or a sexist asshole).

[Pretty Flaco]

i know that at where i work i could call myself a man eating werewolf vampire and as long as i did my job theyd be fine with it. however, as soon as i joined a union or took any sort of action against my employers theyd find some reason to get rid of me.

[MarxSchmarx]

i don't knw about new york specifically, op, but generally in most liberal democracies most employers cannot fire their workers for their political convictions. Of coruse they can get rid of you pretty summarily if you aren't a full time employee for any number of other silly reasons, but for your political beliefs per se, they can't fire you. If you can make a reasonable case that your politics are what cost you your job, firing you will be a risk your garden center bosses would be unlikely to take.

[Lolumad273]

The owners of the store are really cool, and are flexible with hours. So I'm not so worried about getting fired, more a respect thing. But I was more curious as to whether or not if effects anyone.

how about joining the IWW, or some other union? Do employers still look out for Union workers? (I know Walmart, and starbucks do, haha)

[Lolumad273]

Oh, and I try not to be an asshole about it. I only bring it up in Economics when my teacher says blatantly wrong things about Communism.

And in Humanities, but not often. We're doing a project where I have to answer some kind of core question. I had to come up with a book to read, that's related to it. I chose Kropotkin's The Conquest of Bread.

I only bring it up when it's relevant.

[ArrowLance]

Who cares if it is a problem. I'm a Communist, it's what I am. It is my primary identification, everything else comes after it.

[Magón]

I only bring it up when it's relevant.

There you go, problem solved. Only bring it up when it's relevant.

I don't know besides the classes you mentioned, when it'd be relevant for you to talk about it, but just be like anyone else on politics. Nobody wants to know who you vote for, or who you don't and why all the time.

[hatzel]

I'm a Communist, it's what I am. It is my primary identification, everything else comes after it.

Listen mate I'm sorry and all but this is such a stupid thing.

[Brosip Tito]

I used to bring the communist manifesto and speeches of Trotsky to read at work, as well as talk to co workers about unionizing. Safe to say, I don't work for Circle K anymore. Though, it is on record that I quit, which looks better when a future employer asks them if I quit or was fired.

Keep it for when it's relevant, as the person above said. Why do you care if people in your school think you are a commie, are they going to run and tell your employer? "Sir Sir, there's a red in the classroom! A COMMIE!"

Seriously, I lived in a town of 3000 people, and my art class in grade 12 I did all my work based around the hammer and sickle whilst listening to Proapgandhi with speakers...Nobody cared.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Well as long as you don't try to unionize the employees and oust the owners of the Garden Center you should be fine.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Good to see the unneccesary insults being supplied in earnest for no good reason..:mellow:
I'm not that vocal in work about my politics except to a few people I consider friends, and it's only ever if it comes up in conversation, so no problems there.
I would hope your emplyer would not use you politics against you in some way, but it's always best to be cautious (there were no mccarthy witch trials for fascists and cops only look out for leftist types at demos of any kind)

[Unclebananahead]

I think you guys need to stop being condescending jerks to the OP. Not sure if the word will travel that he's a red from his high school to his employer, but political firings are a real. Fucking. thing. This is especially the case in the united states, where there are zero civil rights protection for one's political beliefs. I live in California, where the dominant system of employment is based upon the 'at will' structure, in which an employer can fire you *at will* for whatever reason they want. They don't have to give a reason. If they say they're firing you because of your skin color, religious beliefs, country of origin, you can theoretically challenge this in court, but if they provide *no reason whatsoever* they really can't be challenged through the existing legal framework. Now just how favorably do you suppose most employers regard those who totally reject the so-called 'property rights' of the rich--i.e. *their property rights.* Just how will they react when they learn that you're a 'rabble rousing red'? It won't be favorable, I'll tell you that.

[Rafiq]

Who cares if it is a problem. I'm a Communist, it's what I am. It is my primary identification, everything else comes after it.

Indeed, this is ludicrous. What the hell does this even mean?

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Who cares if it is a problem. I'm a Communist, it's what I am. It is my primary identification, everything else comes after it.

What about being a human?

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

What about being a human?

Fuck that shit. Humans are counterrevolutionary.

[Rooster]

I don't think anyone would really care that much about what your politics are. The only time that problems have come up is when I brought them up with a union or went on strike, etc.


Indeed, this is ludicrous. What the hell does this even mean?

It means he's a part of the glorious vanguard and a professional revolutionary.

[Lolumad273]

Well, now I feel as if I'm being forced into closet Communism... only a little though.

I do post random thoughts on my facebook. I do post quotes. I don't suppose it really matters, I just try to warm people up to the idea, when applicable. Revolutions don't happen with a minority.

[ArrowLance]

What about being a human? Being a human comes after being a revolutionary. The world already has plenty of humans.

[NewLeft]

I work at a local garden center. Anyone in my age group have problems like this? Anyone of any age have issues with employers?
As long as you're not unionizing, they wont care.

[fabian]

Some time ago, I was working as a security guard and the manager of the club heard me talking with an employee there about how capitalism is exploatation and robbery and should be abolished, and I got fired x)

[NewLeft]

I wokered as a security guard and the manager of the joint heard me talking with an employee there about how capitalism is exploatation and robbery and should be abolished, and I got fired x)
Is that really the reason why you got fired? lol

[fabian]

The menager called the boss and told him that I was drunk on the job, and I don't even drink x)