View Full Version : Police pass out NATO flyers in my town.
Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
15th May 2012, 01:44
This may be the wrong thread.
Police were passing these out/hangin these around my town. My mom works in the hospital area, so she brought one home.
"The Nato Summit is planned for the City of Chicago from May 19-21, 2012. It is unknown at this time the impact that the Summit will have in our city. Please be assured that the Police and Fire Departments are well aware of the coming event and have been involved in regional planning for the last 7 months. There is no information suggesting that significant incidents will occur in our city during the Summit. Our Public Safety officials are planning to respond to all contingencies and continue to ensure that our community receives the same level of expected security and protective services.
In addition to anticipated delays in commuting time, transportation detours, and congestion at several Summit meeting events, it is probable that hotels and other residential areas in and around Chicago will experience full occupancy. This means that surrounding communities may be used by Summit participants and protestors for hotel and dining needs. We are also expecting representatives of the international media.
Given the size of the event, we are in need of your help! You are out in the community and have the opportunity to make observations of potential problems or suspicious activity. If you come upon anything of suspicious nature you are encouraged to notify 9-11. Basic indicators that extremist groups may be active in a city or town is the presence of graffiti or posted flyers.
Examples of graffiti to keep an eye out for include:
From left to right, the pictures were: anarcho punk circle-a, squatter symbol, black flag, anti facist arrows, anonymous, circle-a with fist, red and black flag, and black cross.
Although peaceful protest is a valued right and protected by the First Amendment, there may be those that advocate "direct actions" or seek to incite criminal activity and violence. It is imperative that the Police Department be made aware of any suspicious activities and if certain symbolism is found in your community.
Other things to be mindful of AND report include:
Vacant/Foreclosed properties and buildings that were once vacant and now appear occupied
Person(s) taking pictures of public buildings, transportation facilities, churches or structures, etc.
Continuous questions regarding your business place, hours of operations, and security measures
Squatting or people camping in parks, forest preserves, or on other public properties, etc.
Anti-Government/Anti-Military/Anarchist Flyers
Suspicious and/or abandoned packages
Abandoned/unusual vehicles
The above information is not intended to associate constitutionally protected activities with criminality or infer that such activity represents a threat to public safety. However, based upon accumulated intelligence and historical observations, it is possible that select individuals or groups may choose to participate in violent actions or incediary events during the NATO Summit. The information and circumstances described in this bulletin are provided for ?the? limited purposes of crime reporting, prevention and awareness.
IF YOU SEE SOMETHING OR IF SOMETHING DOES NOT "FEEL" RIGHT PLEASE REPORT IT TO 9-1-1
I could begin to list the reasons, but I'll leave that to you guys.
Ele'ill
15th May 2012, 01:49
Hand out counter agitprop fliers explaining why daily insurrections are desirable, social rupture etc..
Koba Junior
15th May 2012, 01:49
It's interesting how they specifically target anti-fascist symbolism, but they don't mention any pro-fascist or Nazi symbolism.
gorillafuck
15th May 2012, 02:50
It's interesting how they specifically target anti-fascist symbolism, but they don't mention any pro-fascist or Nazi symbolism.why would they? that will not be anywhere close to as prevalent as leftist symbolism at these upcoming events.
Trap Queen Voxxy
15th May 2012, 02:52
Hand out counter agitprop fliers explaining why daily insurrections are desirable, social rupture etc..
^This, to put it quit simply, fuck NATO.
Koba Junior
15th May 2012, 02:58
why would they? that will not be anywhere close to as prevalent as leftist symbolism at these upcoming events.
Fascists tend to oppose what they believe promotes multiculturalism and globalism, at least in word.
gorillafuck
15th May 2012, 03:04
Fascists tend to oppose what they believe promotes multiculturalism and globalism, at least in word.they don't really show up to these protests though, and if they ever do it is not even close to the amount of leftists to show up. the cops aren't collaborating with nazis.
anyway, this sucks so bad. report anything that doesn't "feel" right? jesus, talk about giving permission to call over nothing.
Comrade Samuel
15th May 2012, 03:06
It's interesting how they specifically target anti-fascist symbolism, but they don't mention any pro-fascist or Nazi symbolism.
Fascists don't really have a tendency to try and stop the spread of fascism my friend...
They best keep their eyes out for those idiots committing acts of terrorism and giving the left a bad name.
Workers-Control-Over-Prod
15th May 2012, 03:20
The NATO Conference was here in (was it January?...) i think January. There were snipers all in the inner city of Munich, streets closed off, police everywhere, it's quite a crazy thing and it sucks being there and being unable to do anything against these war mongering pieces of shit.
This note is though quite a significant thing...
Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
15th May 2012, 16:10
I like how they say it's such a valued right, but we have to monitor everyones beliefs.
ForgedConscience
15th May 2012, 16:18
I like how they say it's such a valued right, but we have to monitor everyones beliefs.
Doublethink. You are 'free' to speak your mind... certain restrictions apply.
:rolleyes:
No doubt people will lap this shit up.
Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
16th May 2012, 01:59
Hand out counter agitprop fliers explaining why daily insurrections are desirable, social rupture etc..
That's a good idea. What do you think it should say?
TheGodlessUtopian
16th May 2012, 02:02
Thread moved to politics.
Ocean Seal
16th May 2012, 05:46
they don't really show up to these protests though, and if they ever do it is not even close to the amount of leftists to show up. the cops aren't collaborating with nazis.
anyway, this sucks so bad. report anything that doesn't "feel" right? jesus, talk about giving permission to call over nothing.
You're welcome.
For all activists and organizers you have a green light. You have the ability to call and divert police attention at whim. Learn about your enemies, when they're paranoid they're paranoid. Use their paranoia against them.
Anarcho-Brocialist
16th May 2012, 06:00
Red and Black flag, Anarchism symbols... so now I'm an extremist? Being class-conscious, aware of exploitation, and the use excessive military force to bombard, murder, imprison, and torture innocent individuals is the makings of an extremist?
You know, I'm not surprised, but to use the word "extremist" ticks me off. You have these right-wing conservatives going around wanting war, outlawing non Judeo-Christian religions, spying on Muslims, destroying civil rights, let the poor suffer, the sick go untreated, and roaming the streets with weaponry makes them patriotic.... what a fucking joke.
A Revolutionary Tool
16th May 2012, 07:51
I'd just call in on a bunch of random shit just to annoy them. "911, you guys handed me a flyer that said call whenever I see suspicious things. Well there was a kid walking around with a hoodie sweatshirt and red shoes! I also saw someone park outside of my neighbors house, wait there for a few minutes, and then drive away when my neighbor got in the car!"
Delenda Carthago
16th May 2012, 09:51
It's interesting how they specifically target anti-fascist symbolism, but they don't mention any pro-fascist or Nazi symbolism.
NATO+ Nazis= LOVE FOR EVER! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio)
(not that Russia is any better...)
thriller
16th May 2012, 10:04
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/15/us-nato-summit-security-idUSBRE84E1KR20120515
Police said they will be keeping a watchful eye out for anarchists bent on more provocative actions, and have ordered about $1 million worth of new riot gear, including face shields that attach to helmets and fit over gas masks.
They have also ordered armor for police horses and acquired two long-range acoustic devices that can be used as "sound cannon" to disperse crowds.
Critics say these devices can cause hearing damage. A police spokeswoman said they would be used to deliver messages to crowds.
"What I want to do is extract the people who need to be extracted," Chicago Police Chief Garry McCarthy said of the strategy for handling protesters.
Police would not use their new riot gear unless it was necessary to control the crowds, he said in an interview broadcast on local radio on Tuesday
No really, it's the flyers you need to fear!
Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
16th May 2012, 13:30
Can we riot yet?
TheRedAnarchist23
16th May 2012, 15:19
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
OHumanista
16th May 2012, 15:59
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
Yeah...right...
:rolleyes:
(Trolling ftw yeah?)
Ocean Seal
16th May 2012, 16:16
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
What the fuck is your problem? Please tell me how the police have never targeted authoritarians. I'm sure the Black Panther Party had a really nice time during the sixties and seventies. Oh and surely the capitalist powers treated Bolshevik Russia like a tiny distraction from their plot.
Dire Helix
16th May 2012, 19:00
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
Radicalized working class is a threat to capitalism. People of your intellectual capacity, however, aren`t.
Lobotomy
16th May 2012, 19:06
I like how they say it's such a valued right, but we have to monitor everyones beliefs.
it's almost too ridiculous; I'm sure many apolitical people will see right through it.
thriller
16th May 2012, 19:09
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
Left-communism is anti-authoritarian, hence it's massive differences with Leninism (not that Leninism is specifically authoritarian either).
A Revolutionary Tool
16th May 2012, 19:16
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
I think it has more to do with the fact that anarchists like to make total destroy at protests while a lot of communists are content with just peacefully marching around.
Leftsolidarity
16th May 2012, 19:50
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
trolling. flamebaiting. sectarianism.
You're a complete idiot.
TheGodlessUtopian
16th May 2012, 19:53
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))
Verbal warning for trolling and sectarian baiting.
gorillafuck
16th May 2012, 20:17
I love when the target the anarchists...
This must mean that anarchism is a bigger threat to them than socialism (please do not answer this by saying that anarchism is socialism, you know very well i am talking about authoritarian socialism (leninism, lef-communism...))that doesn't mean that.
Left-communism is anti-authoritarian, hence it's massive differences with Leninism (not that Leninism is specifically authoritarian either).no, left communism doesn't draw an authoritarian-libertarian dichotomy at all.
thriller
16th May 2012, 21:40
no, left communism doesn't draw an authoritarian-libertarian dichotomy at all.
Right. But Leninism draws on the 'authority' of a vangaurd where as left communism doesn't. That was the 'authoritarian' difference I was trying to point out. Prolly meaningless though.
Yazman
17th May 2012, 18:30
Moderator action:
Radicalized working class is a threat to capitalism. People of your intellectual capacity, however, aren`t.
trolling. flamebaiting. sectarianism.
You're a complete idiot.
It strikes me as funny that somebody with the username "Leftsolidarity" would so quickly resort to flaming another leftist.
Guys, somebody else breaking the rules doesn't give you license to do so as well. You're NOT allowed to insult other users here. If I see either of you doing it again I'm infracting you. This is a warning.
Welshy
17th May 2012, 18:44
Right. But Leninism draws on the 'authority' of a vangaurd where as left communism doesn't. That was the 'authoritarian' difference I was trying to point out. Prolly meaningless though.
I know this topic has been cover else where (just check out the threads on Left communism in learning), but left communism isn't anti-lenin and there are view that would identify as leninists. Also left communism doesn't reject the idea of a vanguard.
Prometeo liberado
17th May 2012, 20:11
Hand out counter agitprop fliers explaining why daily insurrections are desirable, social rupture etc..
Close but I would post flyers stating that protests will be held in fake locations outside of the city. Keep 'em running around the whole weekend chasing ghosts.
Mather
22nd May 2012, 06:15
and if certain symbolism is found in your community
So symbols are now suspect and criminal, how very Orwellian.
TheRedAnarchist23
30th May 2012, 20:04
trolling. flamebaiting. sectarianism.
You're a complete idiot.
Was it something I said?:D
I don't understand how you all managed to take that completly out of context.
I was mocking the fact that they were targetting only anarchists.(no trolling)
I had to specify that they were not targeting authoritarians
(no flamebaiting)
I had to separate two completely diferent theories (no sectarianism).
When you say anarchism you are not accused of sectarianism are you, then why am I accused of sectarianism by saying authoritarian socialism?
TheRedAnarchist23
30th May 2012, 20:11
You're a complete idiot.
Am I, the one who had already imagined a system like anarchism without ever hearing a word about it, only discovering it when I was 15,
Am I, the one who always defends himself in an argument no matter the size of the oposition,
Am I, the one who is quick to ask others about their ideologies, wanting to learn,
Am I a complete idiot?
Think things through before you post them.
Leftsolidarity
30th May 2012, 20:12
Was it something I said?:D
I don't understand how you all managed to take that completly out of context.
I was mocking the fact that they were targetting only anarchists.(no trolling)
I had to specify that they were not targeting authoritarians
(no flamebaiting)
I had to separate two completely diferent theories (no sectarianism).
When you say anarchism you are not accused of sectarianism are you, then why am I accused of sectarianism by saying authoritarian socialism?
Lol I'm not even going to bother debating someone who uses "authoritarians" as if it means something. I said what I had to say and that's it. I'm not getting draw into a long pointless argument with you.
Brosa Luxemburg
4th June 2012, 02:39
Am I, the one who had already imagined a system like anarchism without ever hearing a word about it, only discovering it when I was 15,
WOW! You must be a freaking genius! God, give me a break :rolleyes:
Am I, the one who always defends himself in an argument no matter the size of the oposition
You spelled "opposition" wrong, you brilliant mind you. Also, you don't really "defend" your posts EVER. You just show that your points are horrible points.
Am I, the one who is quick to ask others about their ideologies, wanting to learn
No you don't. You ask, but you never really want to learn. This can be seen from EVERY thread where you ask.
Think things through before you post them.
Yes, you should.
Brosa Luxemburg
4th June 2012, 02:40
Right. But Leninism draws on the 'authority' of a vangaurd where as left communism doesn't. That was the 'authoritarian' difference I was trying to point out. Prolly meaningless though.
Left Communism is not opposed to vanguardism.
Jimmie Higgins
4th June 2012, 08:33
Red and Black flag, Anarchism symbols... so now I'm an extremist? Being class-conscious, aware of exploitation, and the use excessive military force to bombard, murder, imprison, and torture innocent individuals is the makings of an extremist?
To paraphrase a John Steinbeck character: anyone who wants a decent wage and hope for the future is an extremist to them.
Close but I would post flyers stating that protests will be held in fake locations outside of the city. Keep 'em running around the whole weekend chasing ghosts.
No I think Mari3L is right. The cops aren't doing this kind of thing just for intel - they can get that off of IndyMedia and whatever imbedded spys and informants they have. It's like when they show up at a militant's workplace - they aren't looking for information, they'd just call the boss - they want to drive a wedge between activists and the general community who may be sympathetic. Specifically here they want to create a "siege" feeling to pre-justify massive repression against any protesters. Ecpect also to see a week or more of news stories about shop-keepers boarding up their storefront windows in advance of the protests as well as vague and uncredited reports of protesters planning to throw tainted water-ballons or squirt guns at cops.
This is a propaganda campaign and the most effective way to counter it is through base-building and clarity and reaching out to the communities as much as we can. Cops are going to spy on us no matter what, I'd rather pass out fliers so sympathetic people living in the area could find our marches and learn about these protests themselves than to print misinformation in hopes of tricking a cop.
Brosa Luxemburg
6th June 2012, 15:14
What the fuck is your problem? Please tell me how the police have never targeted authoritarians. I'm sure the Black Panther Party had a really nice time during the sixties and seventies. Oh and surely the capitalist powers treated Bolshevik Russia like a tiny distraction from their plot.
Exactly.
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