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Lolumad273
14th May 2012, 19:21
I know what this word means, and I had a short argument over whether it means "Middle Class" (The hell is that anyway?), or whether it meant the Capitalist class. That's not really what I'm asking though.

I'm wondering how to use it properly in a sentence. I've seen it typed as "Bourgeois" and "Bourgeoisie". I'm wondering if Bourgeoisie is plural..? If I were to scream something at a rich person, would it be "Bourgeoisie pig", or Bourgeois pig". Hahahahahaha, joking aside, the question stands. How do I use those two variations of the word?

Thanks!

Revolution starts with U
14th May 2012, 19:35
Yould scream "bourgeois."

As in, "you scum always protect the bourgeois values of the bourgeoisie."

Book O'Dead
14th May 2012, 21:48
I'm wondering how to use it properly in a sentence.

Thanks!

When in doubt, spell it 'booshwah', as in 'he's a booshwah cocksucker trying to fuck us out of our money!'

TheGodlessUtopian
14th May 2012, 21:52
Bourgeois and bourgeoisie means the capitalist class, or, "those who own the means of production" in French.

Rooster
14th May 2012, 21:53
Basically, bourgeoisie = capitalist class (eg the bourgeoisie control the state) and bourgeois = capitalist (as in the descriptive word eg "that's a capitalist/bourgeois mode of production).

Caj
14th May 2012, 21:57
Bourgeoisie means the whole class. Bourgeois can be the singular, plural, or adjective form.

TheGodlessUtopian
14th May 2012, 21:59
Bourgeoisie means the whole class. Bourgeois can be the singular, plural, or adjective form. Bourgeoise is the feminine form of bourgeois.

Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

Caj
14th May 2012, 22:03
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bourgeoise

That's what the dictionary says. Sorry if I offended anyone. How exactly is it sexist, though?

Rooster
14th May 2012, 22:05
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

Eh, what?

Per Levy
14th May 2012, 22:12
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

this warning should be retracted since Bro Chi Minh said nothing sexist.

Invader Zim
14th May 2012, 22:14
It is an outdated bullshit term that refers to a strata of a social structure that ceased existing nearly a century ago. Do I live in 1840s France? No. So why would I replicate terminology from that period, rip it from its period and place and use it to describe a class from a wholey alien context? It really has no relevence to anybody... except other leftists who have read a bit of Marx and want to appear down with the lingo. And thus making it a self-perpetuating anachronism that makes the revolutionary left look out of touch and ridiculous.

God I hate that word. I hate it even more than the word 'proletariat', and the only reason for that is because 'proletariat' is slightly easier to spell and can be shortened to 'prole' which rolls off the tongue.

Per Levy
14th May 2012, 22:19
God I hate that word. I hate it even more than the word 'proletariat', and the only reason for that is because 'proletariat' is slightly easier to spell and can be shortened to 'prole' which rolls off the tongue.

well you could shorten bourgeois to bourge.

TheGodlessUtopian
14th May 2012, 22:20
I have never heard it be used in this way before now and certainly on here when people refer to the bourgeoisie they do not mean "a female member of the middle class." The term is still used out of the blue and doesn't denote anything specific in the thread.Next time be clear when using such a word in s strange usage.

Koba Junior
14th May 2012, 22:27
I have never heard it be used in this way before now and certainly on here when people refer to the bourgeoisie they do not mean "a female member of the middle class." The term is still used out of the blue and doesn't denote anything specific in the thread.Next time be clear when using such a word in s strange usage.

Actually, the meaning of the post was that "bourgeoisie" is a noun of feminine gender. Some languages, particularly Romance languages like French and Spanish, assign gender to words in their language. For example, "el carro" is masculine while "la persona" is feminine. Often, a word may indicate a person or creature whose gender or sex is not congruent with the gender of the word.

Lev Bronsteinovich
14th May 2012, 22:28
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.
It's from the French comrade moderator. No more sexist than, say, using the term, "human." It's just part of the language. Take it easy, comrade.

Per Levy
14th May 2012, 22:29
I have never heard it be used in this way before now and certainly on here when people refer to the bourgeoisie they do not mean "a female member of the middle class." The term is still used out of the blue and doesn't denote anything specific in the thread.Next time be clear when using such a word in s strange usage.

but this is not what he meant either, this it is:


French, feminine of bourgeois

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bourgeoise

Caj
14th May 2012, 22:29
I have never heard it be used in this way before now and certainly on here when people refer to the bourgeoisie they do not mean "a female member of the middle class." The term is still used out of the blue and doesn't denote anything specific in the thread.Next time be clear when using such a word in s strange usage.

That's because bourgeoisie doesn't mean "a female member of the middle class." You misread bourgeoise as bourgeoisie. The reason I included the former is because it is very often mistaken for the latter, leading to confusion. I don't understand how I could have been clearer considering all I did was present the definition. . . .

Vyacheslav Brolotov
14th May 2012, 22:33
Bourgeoisie-the whole class
Bourgeoise (without the i)-female member of that class
Bourgeois-male member of that class, also could be used as an adjective.

Brosip Tito
14th May 2012, 22:34
I have never heard it be used in this way before now and certainly on here when people refer to the bourgeoisie they do not mean "a female member of the middle class." The term is still used out of the blue and doesn't denote anything specific in the thread.Next time be clear when using such a word in s strange usage.
Bourgeoisie/bourgeois(e) is french, ergo, it is going to have a masculine and feminine spelling.

Le vs la, and un vs une, that sort of thing. The former in each set being masculine, the latter being feminine.

I mean, it's not that strange if you know any French, or know the history of the term bourgeoisie.

Yuppie Grinder
14th May 2012, 22:34
well you could shorten bourgeois to bourge.

yea i normally just say "bougie"

Invader Zim
14th May 2012, 23:26
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

LOL, I didn't notice this first time round. But QED for the point I made.

Revolution starts with U
15th May 2012, 02:16
Someone's got egg on their face right about now :lol:

Althusser
15th May 2012, 02:21
Verbal warning for sexist trolling.

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wsg1991
15th May 2012, 02:34
i don't use the word petite bourgeoisie , it doesn't make sense to me i rather middle class ,

Koba Junior
15th May 2012, 02:35
I say petty bourgeoisie, personally.

Rafiq
15th May 2012, 03:42
How about for individuals?

" you're a proletarian"

"You're a bourgeois...(?)"

Or is it solely an adjective, i.e. You can only say

"You're Bourgeois"?

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Revolution starts with U
15th May 2012, 03:55
You are bourgeois. You are a bourgeoisie.

Caj
15th May 2012, 04:01
You are bourgeois. You are a bourgeoisie.

No, it would be bourgeois in both cases. Bourgeoisie refers to the entire class of capitalists.

Revolution starts with U
15th May 2012, 04:15
My mistake :)

TheGodlessUtopian
15th May 2012, 04:56
Indeed, my mistake, my bad :lol::p

Zealot
15th May 2012, 05:03
The word bourgeois can be used both as a noun and an adjective.

It wouldn't be "Bourgeoisie pig" it would be "Bourgeois pig".

Revolution starts with U
15th May 2012, 05:16
Indeed, my mistake, my bad :lol::p

Ya, just go take a latin language and see how annoying that masculine/feminine separation gets :lol:

Ocean Seal
15th May 2012, 05:40
This fucking shit again. They teach us that bourgeois means middle class, but its not the fucking French revolution. Bourgeois refers to owning capital, and in a society where the nobility plays a secondary role they are the ruling class not the middle class (petit bourgeois).