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Red Commissar
13th May 2012, 19:43
There are several news floating around about the NRW (North Rhein-Westphalia) parliament elections. You can read some here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/13/germany-election-nrw-idUSL5E8GD1JG20120513

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/05/13/north_rhine_westphalia_election_setback_for_merkel .html

Being the most populous state of Germany as well as containing four of the 10 largest cities, it is sometimes seen as an indicator of possible trends nationally. Most of the media channels seem to be seeing this in the frame of voters bucking austerity and delivering an embarassment to Merkel's CDU party (though honestly like Hollande's performance in France, it doesn't signal the end of austerity and neoliberalism). The last election in 2010 saw her party lose the government to a SPD/Green coalition. This election has seen their share of the parliament has only increased increase with this election allowing them to have a more convincing majority in the parliament. Merkel's party dropped from 34% to 26%.

Not sure about turnout this time around, I think it was around 60%, if so it wouldn't be too different from 2010's.

We're getting these results from most exit polling

SPD- 38.8%
Greens- 12.2%
CDU- 25.8%
FDP- 8.6%
Pirates- 7.6%

While the CDU took a significant drubbing, it is interesting to point out that Die Linke, who had managed to meet the 5% threshold in 2010, was unable to do so this year, only getting some 3-4%. I believe this was probably at the expense of the Pirates, for the same reasons in the 2011 Berlin state elections. Not withstanding the issues with electoralism to begin with, Die Linke doesn't appear to be appealing in the same way to activists as it once was, something the Pirate Party seems to be doing better.

I don't know, maybe someone with some better knowledge of German politics can comment. As far as I'm concerned this is the revolving door in play with regards to SPD and CDU performance.

Sasha
13th May 2012, 19:47
but... but.... DNZ told me "die linke" would bring about communism.....

Per Levy
13th May 2012, 20:33
unsuprising results, "die linke" got what they deserved after tolerating the spd/green goverment for the last years not to mention that "linke" is hardly doing anything at all except being concentrated with itself.

the pirates still have a lot of momentum going for them it seems, they'll be out of the parliament next elections though(imo). the only suprising thing, to me, at least is that the fdp got so many votes.


Not sure about turnout this time around, I think it was around 60%, if so it wouldn't be too different from 2010's.

as far as i heard it was supposed to be a bit lower then 60% and it was the lowest turnout in the history of nordrhein westfalen.

Die Neue Zeit
13th May 2012, 20:34
but... but.... DNZ told me "die linke" would bring about communism.....

I never said anything about that. :rolleyes:

Worker-class representative activity and worker-class politics more broadly have taken quite a blow with this surge of petit-bourgeois democratism in German politics, and I'm afraid this might bolster the coalitionist tendencies within Die Linke.

Sasha
13th May 2012, 20:46
Worker-class representative activity and worker-class politics more broadly have taken quite a blow with this surge of petit-bourgeois democratism in German politics, and I'm afraid this might bolster the coalitionist tendencies within Die Linke.

sure, thats why hundreds of never even convicted but once i.d.'d at a demonstration petit-bourgeois democrats just got a pre-emptive ban to even attent the massive anti-ECB demonstrations in frankfurt next week.... seem to me worker-class activity and worker-class politics in germany is doing fine, its just finally happening again outside the dead end or parlaimentarism

Die Neue Zeit
14th May 2012, 00:12
as far as i heard it was supposed to be a bit lower then 60% and it was the lowest turnout in the history of nordrhein westfalen.

Not enough people showed up to even spoil ballots.


seem to me worker-class activity and worker-class politics in germany is doing fine, its just finally happening again outside the dead end or parlaimentarism

Worker-class politics is not fine when abstention is the be-all-and-end-all, as indicated in my spoiled ballot remark above.