Can Worker Cooperatives make Capitalism more fair ?

[tradeunionsupporter]

Can Worker Cooperatives make Capitalism more fair ? There are Worker Cooperatives in the United States and other Western Nations. Why can't more Workers put their money together and start Worker Cooperatives. Some Capitalists say if we had more Worker Cooperatives there would be no need for Socialism/Communism/Marxism are they still wrong ?

A worker cooperative is a cooperative (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Cooperative) owned and democratically managed (http://www.revleft.com/wiki/Workers%27_self-management) by its worker-owners.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative

Job's, Economy and Europe's Revolt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktHX8Sc1XEI&feature=relmfu
Reagan praises Walter Reuther (Project Economic Justice)

Uploaded by justthirdway (http://www.youtube.com/user/justthirdway) on May 8, 2008
In this clip on Project Economic Justice, President Reagan's sites Walter Reuther's call for ownership by employees. "Walter Reuther was one of the first major labor leaders to advocate that management and labor shift away from battling over wage and benefit levels to a cooperative effort aimed at sharing in the ownership of the new wealth being produced. He was looking far beyond the next contract. There is a story that Reuther was touring a highly automated Ford Assembly Plant when someone said, Walter, you're going to have a hard time collecting union dues from all these machines. Reuther simply shot back, not as hard a time as you're going to have selling them cars.". August 3, 1987.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMrShsX6aEw

[NewLeft]

Workers cooperatives have existed as long as capitalism existed. It doesn't reform capitalism towards a more cooperative driven type of capitalism, instead, these worker co-ops tend to go flush after being out competed with a more efficient traditional business.

[tradeunionsupporter]

I agree because Worker Owned Cooperatives must compete with other Businesses.

And in those variations of socialism which do call for a centralized government, that government is always a democracy -- never a dictatorship, central planning committee, or other form of ruling elite. Workers do not own or control anything when a dictator is telling them what to do. "Collective ownership" means that the group is in control; "dictatorship" means that a single person is in control. Therefore it is a logical impossibility to have "collective ownership" by a dictator. It is for this reason that socialists reject the claim (made by the Soviet Union itself) that the Soviet Union was socialist. It was instead a brutal dictatorship over workers. True socialism has never been tried at the national level anywhere in the world, although some employee-owned firms have successfully employed it in the West.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-socialism.htm

Web definitions


A worker cooperative is a cooperative owned and democratically managed by its worker-owners. This control may be exercised in a number of ways. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative (http://www.google.com/url?url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative&rct=j&sa=X&ei=OM2uT4uXHaOe6AH6tICICQ&ved=0CDQQngkwAA&q=worker+cooperative&usg=AFQjCNFAH5nz5dT7oa7pCOHwfBByXZaYeQ)



(Worker cooperation) The actions and attitudes of program personnel when carrying out a research study within an existing program; a criterion for selecting a data collection method.
www.pairbondpublications.com/for_students/online_glossary (http://www.pairbondpublications.com/for_students/online_glossary)



A business organisation owned by employees who contribute to production and share in profit.
www.tuition.com.hk/dictionary/w.htm (http://www.tuition.com.hk/dictionary/w.htm)

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[campesino]

Production for profits are antithetical to communism, in my view. If every corporation were to become a cooperative, and profits were still the goal, it would still be capitalism. the economics of capitalism would still apply such as the tendency of the rate of profit to fall.

[DinodudeEpic]

It won't be capitalism. But, it won't be communism either.

That's why it's market socialism, not market communism.

[Railyon]

There's still capital in the process of self-valorization (tautologically one can say), how is it not capitalism then?

Is it only capitalism if there's a bourgeoisie? I'd think that's a bit reductionist.