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Bostana
11th May 2012, 21:51
I, and some others, might feel that they need to be little more politically active in their Community. So I would appreciate it if people would post on this thread some ideas on how to raise public awarness about Socialism, Communism, Marxism etc. Any advice would do really

Thanks

TheRedAnarchist23
11th May 2012, 21:52
Make posters, like me:D

Vyacheslav Brolotov
11th May 2012, 21:55
I know you are young, so . . . I don't know . . . hand out books, pamphlets, and other reading materials? Speak out . . . somewhere?

Yeah, I'm pretty much no help :)

Omsk
11th May 2012, 21:58
Doing something alone will rarely get you somewhere.

Deicide
11th May 2012, 22:06
Join a Maoist cult.

Railyon
11th May 2012, 22:09
Join a Maoist cult.
Why not start one?

Bostana
11th May 2012, 22:27
Join a Maoist cult.

I know I could trust you to take this seriously
:rolleyes:

TheGodlessUtopian
11th May 2012, 22:29
A good option is to find a progressive organization to join and see where you get while in there. I was about 18 when I began organizing with my state's chapter of Code:Pink.Though they are not all exactly revolutionary they come close with many being revolutionary.In this group I got to speak several times to a decent sized crowd advocating revolution,as well as go down to major leftist events where I was able to meet YSA comrades.

It will probably be different in your state but the example stands: find a grassroots group and learn the ropes then spread out on your own with your own initiatives.
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Edit: Lets stop the trolling people.

Bostana
11th May 2012, 22:31
Make posters, like me:D

Socialist realism comes to mind :D

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uGeb2QOar5U/SUt-rXq3zGI/AAAAAAAAAWU/XVU5MX5KLNE/s1600/ORIGINALE.jpg

ellipsis
12th May 2012, 07:30
Moved to p and p.

Koba Junior
12th May 2012, 07:34
The creation and dissemination of agitprop is what communism really needs these days. We need to make the nuanced and complex aspects of Marxism more accessible to the person who would otherwise be disinterested. Speaking to the universal experience of the proletariat under capitalism is of utmost importance.

Ele'ill
12th May 2012, 18:09
Doing something alone will rarely get you somewhere.

Not true. There are plenty of things you can do alone

Vyacheslav Brolotov
12th May 2012, 18:24
Not true. There are plenty of things you can do alone

I don't know if that's a joke, but either way, doing things alone will just make you easier to overlook.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
12th May 2012, 18:25
Join a Maoist cult.

You really are a troll.

MustCrushCapitalism
12th May 2012, 18:41
The RCP is basically a cult around the glorious leader and the reincarnation of Mao, Bob Avakian, but it's a million times better than the LLCO.

Just join another Marxist party that isn't exclusively Maoist. Whatever has a branch in your local area.

ellipsis
12th May 2012, 20:01
Not true. There are plenty of things you can do alone


A good comrade started an anti-cap group in Utah, alone. Now it has three chapters with weekly meetings.

A lot of the work I did in San Francisco I did alone.

+1 for self directed, solo actions.

Ele'ill
12th May 2012, 20:45
doing things alone will just make you easier to overlook.

The individual, yes. The actions, no. :ninja:

Vyacheslav Brolotov
12th May 2012, 20:54
The individual, yes. The actions, no. :ninja:

You must also start teaching the children early:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9ghbgtU3h-I/TlTpbIXBEUI/AAAAAAAACI0/EiimboVAB4Q/s1600/Pin+the+molotov+funny+things+picture.jpg

Le Penseur Libre
12th May 2012, 21:03
Is there any website/ressources where we can find leftist organization in our city?:confused:

Rusty Shackleford
12th May 2012, 21:04
if you are a student, create a flyer and post it up on campus for a reading group or something at a some place of your discretion (that is semi-public and not creepily secluded)


do a reading group, talk about politics from a socialist perspective or whatever. and dont talk down to people if you do something like that.


oh, and SHOW UP FOR YOUR OWN EVENTS even if no one else does. stay for the time period you allotted on the flyer and read or whatever until someone shows up.

Ele'ill
12th May 2012, 21:04
You must also start teaching the children early:


Rather than actually respond to a serious counter-reply regarding action and tactics, Comrade Commistar attempts to slander a leftist by suggesting that they *gasp*, oppose the police. Off topic photographs are not allowed.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
12th May 2012, 21:06
Rather than actually respond to a serious counter-reply regarding action and tactics, Comrade Commistar attempts to slander a leftist by suggesting that they *gasp*, oppose the police. Off topic photographs are not allowed.

I wasn't being rude . . . it was just a joke. Wow, you think I love the popo so much that I can't have some fun.

1. I hate the police.

2. It was a kind joke.

Ele'ill
12th May 2012, 21:07
There are a lot of things someone can do alone. Posters up around town ahead of an event. Banners. Flags. Cop watching. Local blog if you don't mind having a central location for your posters, writing etc.. You can organize with other people, start affinity groups/chapters. There are a lot of other things you can do too.

I like going for walks with friends and talking/thinking about what can be done. Getting out on foot into your city and away from the information stream of the internet with all it's criticisms and stuff helps a lot.

Ele'ill
12th May 2012, 21:10
Wow, you think I love the popo so much that I can't have some fun.

I don't think you thought that picture was a joke given what you were replying to and your past conversations on the topic.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
12th May 2012, 21:13
I don't think you thought that picture was a joke given what you were replying to and your past conversations on the topic.

But it was.

I thought it would make you happy:crying:

MotherCossack
12th May 2012, 21:25
you know what... this is a really good idea for a thread....
i, myself, could do with a few ideas along these lines....
so well done for putting it out there....
and the general tone and content of the response so far says a lot about where we are at right now...
by We ...I mean the far left in general, and in particular rev-left as a political mouthpiece for the radical minded.

The first step would be to come out as a communist [even if not using that actual word].
Talk about it in everyday life... if poss. Challenge stupid, bigoted remarks that you know to be ludicrous.... be proud of your views.....we need to dispel the myth that communism is inherently evil and only loonies and demons are communists.

eg. i heard a pillock at my art class talking about millionaires....
"Yeah, but we need 'em. we need millionaires...to look after us and put money into good causes!!!!!!!!"


EXCUSE ME!!!!
i told him .....' what would you rather have on a barren island... money or food?'
pea-brain!

ellipsis
12th May 2012, 22:04
In DPRK we have a whole people up and ready around a central figure who the people are brainwashed into thinking is worthy of a higher standard of living than them. They also claim to be socialist. They're very nationalistic as well and believe they are superior to a certain other nation. Gee whiz, I wonder what other group fits these characteristics!

Different people see socialism as different things. The DPRK folk (the common ones, not the fully inJuchenated leaders) probably have a very vague idea that it has something to do with not having imperialist american pigdogs ruining everything for everyone. And so they call themselves socialists.

I think it's obvious to the general first-world public that not every self-described socialist is the same. I'm pretty sure that most people who give a squirt about this sort of thing have a very good idea that Kim Il-Sung, Hollande, Hitler, Stalin and Mao are far from interchangeable.

Perhaps this was a mistake, but please don't post off topic comments like this. VERBAL WARNING.

Magón
12th May 2012, 22:10
A good comrade started an anti-cap group in Utah, alone. Now it has three chapters with weekly meetings.

Now if this point doesn't prove you can do something on your own, wherever you are, then I don't know what can. Utah's a pretty conservative place, one of the most (if not the most,) here in the Western US.

Does this group have a link or something, Theredson?

ellipsis
12th May 2012, 22:17
Apparently you are young, according to another poster in this thread. First know that many marxist groups have youth groups associated with the.

in terms of what you can do, talk with as many activists of as many types as you can, see how they organize and evaluate their different ideologies.

Reading/watching/listening/info-intake, both fiction and not will inform a lot of your work.

Be active and reliable. Speaking from experience, what the movement needs now is people who can commit a lot of time and effort as well as folks who are reliable and accountable, volunteer to do things and actually do them.

Propaganda distro/production is helpful, tabling provides a good opportunity for street level agit-prop. This is its own end but also provides practice for public speaking/"speaking revolution"

Prometeo liberado
12th May 2012, 22:31
Start your own Revolution and cut out the middle-man! Stop waiting for the great leap forward!(Billy Bragg)

ellipsis
12th May 2012, 22:51
Now if this point doesn't prove you can do something on your own, wherever you are, then I don't know what can. Utah's a pretty conservative place, one of the most (if not the most,) here in the Western US.

Does this group have a link or something, Theredson?

Do they ever!
The Revolutionary Students Union has three chapters organized in Salt Lake City/Provo area colleges, UofU , UVU and SLCC


facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/132900957044/

Youtube (great lecture videos from meetings): http://www.youtube.com/user/UVURSU/videos

website: http://www.revolutionarystudentsunion.com/

Magón
12th May 2012, 23:02
I guess if I'm ever in Utah again, I'll actually find some people to talk class war with then.

ellipsis
13th May 2012, 00:23
I guess if I'm ever in Utah again, I'll actually find some people to talk class war with then.

I visted the newest, smallest chapter on my way through, I was very impressed and could only imagine what the larger chapters are like. Good comrades flying red flags over utah.

P.S. Former revleftarian was the founder of the org.

ellipsis
13th May 2012, 01:31
Do they ever!
The Revolutionary Students Union has three chapters organized in Salt Lake City/Provo area colleges, UofU , UVU and SLCC


Aforementioned comrade recently was visited by the FBI.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2443805&postcount=224

Bostana
14th May 2012, 20:02
Post up Che Guevara posters:
http://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/36/3600/77Q2F00Z/posters/che-guevara.jpg
:D

Omsk
14th May 2012, 20:24
Not true. There are plenty of things you can do alone


Of course,but none of it will actually be that effective to be worth the time.

ellipsis
14th May 2012, 21:16
Of course,but none of it will actually be that effective to be worth the time.

Not with that attitude. Tell me, do you speak from experience or are u just a cynical keyboard revolutionary?

Omsk
14th May 2012, 21:17
Yes,i live in a conservative country and being a "revolutionary" is absolutely pointless if you are alone.

The Young Pioneer
14th May 2012, 21:26
Do something good in your community.

Charity (I don't mean throw money at something, but get out and volunteer at a worthy place where you can see direct results of your efforts), clean litter from a park, visit prisoners, donate used items...

At this point, there's not a revolution, there's not a giant uprising, you're not going to be able to go out there with a pamphlet and change thousands of people's way of thinking. But you CAN be someone your community looks up to and admires, and that, coupled with outward honesty about your political views, can change individual's perceptions pretty effectively.

How do I know? This works very well for me concerning my homosexuality. People get to know and like me for who I am before they know I happen to date girls and once they do, they accept me; some even have their entire view on homosexuality changed.

Just my two cents..

TheGodlessUtopian
14th May 2012, 21:38
Yes,i live in a conservative country and being a "revolutionary" is absolutely pointless if you are alone.

I'm just saying, that didn't exactly stop the Bolsheviks, Chinese, Albanians, or Early American organizers... being alone is often the only thing they could do but their actions eventually paid off with creating branches for their respective parties.

Omsk
14th May 2012, 21:55
I'm just saying, that didn't exactly stop the Bolsheviks, Chinese, Albanians, or Early American organizers... being alone is often the only thing they could do but their actions eventually paid off with creating branches for their respective parties.


The Albanian communists were not numereous,but they were organized and had three groups which they could work with,so again,individual organization is not something they used to a large extent. As for the Bolsheviks,well,they were a majority party so the numbers were not a problem.

Again,the problem is you are talking about organized political groups (Smaller,like in Albania,or huge,like in Russia.) and here we have an individual asking for advice regarding activity.

The Garbage Disposal Unit
16th May 2012, 15:13
Avoid charity at all costs.
Do solidarity work in your community.
Work to understand the difference, and proceed accordingly.

ellipsis
16th May 2012, 15:30
Street level agit-prop is probably your best bet. Maybe u wont start the revolution but you will be more politically active. Don't listen to the haters in this thread.

Psychedelia
16th May 2012, 15:35
you spelled tips wrong :tt2:

The Garbage Disposal Unit
18th May 2012, 00:42
Street level agit-prop is probably your best bet. Maybe u wont start the revolution but you will be more politically active. Don't listen to the haters in this thread.

Street level agit-prop ain't shit without street level organization and activity. It's necessary and good, but, please, please, please don't stop there.

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
18th May 2012, 01:54
Anyone have any cool flyers they've made they can link me to?

TheGodlessUtopian
18th May 2012, 02:02
The Albanian communists were not numereous,but they were organized and had three groups which they could work with,so again,individual organization is not something they used to a large extent. As for the Bolsheviks,well,they were a majority party so the numbers were not a problem.

Again,the problem is you are talking about organized political groups (Smaller,like in Albania,or huge,like in Russia.) and here we have an individual asking for advice regarding activity.

If you go back far enough all radical movements had a small beginnings.Early in Tsarist Russia when the Bolshevikss went into factories to propagate they were often beaten by the workers.Such was when it was still a small crowd.Is the same with all movements if one goes back far enough. No matter what happens it will always be that courageous loner that was the first to broach the radical subject to people whom had never heard about socialism before.