Why don't People Like Communism?

[Psychedelia]

Just curious,many people think less of me now when i considered myself an communist. Do people think that communism is korea,china,dont they know that communism is stateless,free society. Or is there any other reason for such hatred.

I also see many media is totally anti-communist,even some cartoons, are so directed

[SacRedMan]

They don't like it because they are scared because they don't know it.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

They are full with western propaganda.

[Dennis the 'Bloody Peasant']

Fear, ignorance...I think most people view communism as something repressive and something that will deny them the chance to be rich and prosperous (certinaly that's why I think all corporate interests work against it because it threatens their way of life and their power)

[Offbeat]

Yeah, people think the USSR, China etc are examples of communism, so it's associated with authoritarian police states. I think a lot of people consider it a good idea in theory, but believe it can't work in practice because of 'human nature', whatever that means.

[tachosomoza]

They don't understand it and have been conditioned to fear it to maintain bourgeois hegemony.

[ed miliband]

it might also have something to do with a lot of people who now call themselves "communists". just sayin'.

[LeftAtheist]

Both the USA and the USSR promulgated the idea that the USSR was socialist when it wasn't. That's the idea of socialism that stuck in a large portion of the world's consciousness.

[Per Levy]

They are full with western propaganda.

and eastern propaganda portraits communiism in a better light?

imho there are a few major reason like, the failing of "real existing socialism" and the hegemony the bourgeoisie that oozes out of every media(newspapers, radio, tv and so on).

[ColonelCossack]

Most people i know thinks it's a nice idea but will always end with a bloodbath... :closedeyes:

The media is very significant.

[Revolution starts with U]

People think capitalism is a population of "millionaires and soon to be millionaires." Also, Stalin put back communism 100 years just by his very existence. :ohmy:

[Goblin]

Because its associated with Stalin.

[Railyon]

Cold War propaganda backed up by real life caricatures of its stereotypes.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Most people aren't masochists so of course they would hate something that would go against their own class interests.

[Revolution starts with U]

Most people aren't masochists so of course they would hate something that would go against their own class interests.

Are you saying most people are bourgois? :confused:

[Rooster]

The problem is, communism is just the act of the over throw of capitalism. It's not something that you can agree or disagree with, that's just what the act is called. I'm pretty sure that the majority of people agree with communists but, they don't know what communism is (which isn't a big deal) and they don't feel empowered enough to punch their boss.

[Comrade Jandar]

What people are you talking about? Are you talking about proles who fear communism? If that's the case then I would say that its due in part to propaganda and also because the theory of communism is a fairly nuanced idea. Things such as nationalism and egotistical individualism are much easier to grasp. Understanding the theoretical underpinnings of communism does entail a fair bit of elitism and that is why it can be so appealing to middle class intellectuals.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Are you saying most people are bourgois? :confused:

No however it still remains to be true and when in combination with social engineering techniques via various medias or hegemony or my initial comments in combination with Cold War-era propaganda and bourgeois propaganda in general.

[Rooster]

What people are you talking about? Are you talking about proles who fear communism? If that's the case then I would say that its due in part to propaganda and also because the theory of communism is a fairly nuanced idea. Things such as nationalism and egotistical individualism are much easier to grasp. Understanding the theoretical underpinnings of communism does entail a fair bit of elitism and that is why it can be so appealing to middle class intellectuals.

It's not nuanced at all. And the idea of communism isn't something that's exclusive to intelligentsia outside of the working classes. It's also quite shocking at the lack of theoretical understanding of marxist theory on this site alone, by people who claim to be the vanguard, or those who promote that concept. I've seen more class consciousness from the average person on the street.

[Revolution starts with U]

It's not nuanced at all. And the idea of communism isn't something that's exclusive to intelligentsia outside of the working classes. It's also quite shocking at the lack of theoretical understanding of marxist theory on this site alone, by people who claim to be the vanguard, or those who promote that concept. I've seen more class consciousness from the average person on the street.

That's because that person has had a real job :lol:

[Psychedelia]

Because its associated with Stalin.

Yes awesome :laugh: i laugh so hard,i love trots ♥

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Because they are brainwashed by propagandas and they are not teached 20th centrury history in schools(at least in Greece) and the only thing that they know about them is that "communists killed" or "communists are antichrists" and for more "advanced" <<Communism is good in theory but does not work in paper.

[Comrade Jandar]

It's not nuanced at all. And the idea of communism isn't something that's exclusive to intelligentsia outside of the working classes. It's also quite shocking at the lack of theoretical understanding of marxist theory on this site alone, by people who claim to be the vanguard, or those who promote that concept. I've seen more class consciousness from the average person on the street.

I think this comes back to the debate about what the difference is between class consciousness and socialist consciousness. I'm from Northern California, a reputedly "liberal" area, and I'm daily disappointed by the dismally low level of class consciousness. I'm literally having to start from the "ground up" when explaining communism and that's assuming the person is not religious, which is a completely different story. To take a leaf out of Malcolm X's book, there is no shortage of "house proles" running around.

[Hexen]

It's because capitalists made it into a loaded word.

[Deicide]

Because they associate Communism with the atrocities of Stalin, Mao, etc. Though it ain't like Comrade Stalin didn't help them out.

[jookyle]

Propaganda, missassociations, and a lack of education.

Look at a public high school text book(in America at least), and you'll see how people are taught from a young age that there's no difference between communism and a dictatorship/totalitarian police state.

[Red_sickle]

People dont truely know what comunism is, there scared think diffrently
Comunism for the win !

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Because they associate Communism with the atrocities of Stalin, Mao, etc. Though it ain't like Comrade Stalin didn't help them out.

But who spreads the lies about Stalin and the other Marxist-Leninist leaders?: the bourgeoisie, ultra-leftists, Trotskyists, anarchists, and fascists.

So the people who really get people scared about communism in general by constantly bringing up the "crimes" of Stalin and co. are the Trotskyists, anarchists, council communists, etc, etc for their own political interests. You guys can say all you want that you have a better alternative to Marxism-Leninism, but the people will connect any person who calls themselves a communist to communism in general, especially the ones they are taught are bad.

[Deicide]

But who spreads the lies about Stalin and the other Marxist-Leninist leaders?

Marxist-Leninists have done an exceptional job at discrediting Communism.

[rolfwar]

They are full with western propaganda.

that is simply it,i have nothing to add.

[Invader Zim]

Because they falsely associate communism with the actions of pseudo-socialist regimes such as Stalin's USSR.

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

I find it alarming how many people are jumping on this "propaganda" bandwagon for easy answers, as if people are generally idiots except for those few enlightened leftists.
I haven´t generally experienced any major hostility towards communism, but a lot of people write it off as unrealistic because they think communism is some future utopian society, or they believe it was a social experiment which failed with the eastern block/SU.
For people who are genuinely hostile to communism, they have a lot of different reasons to be so.

[Rooster]

I find it alarming how many people are jumping on this "propaganda" bandwagon for easy answers, as if people are generally idiots except for those few enlightened leftists.
I haven´t generally experienced any major hostility towards communism, but a lot of people write it off as unrealistic because they think communism is some future utopian society, or they believe it was a social experiment which failed with the eastern block/SU.
For people who are genuinely hostile to communism, they have a lot of different reasons to be so.

Judging from the theoretical spouting by some members here (and if they even have some contact with the working class), I'm not surprised by that, treating the proletariat as some passive homogenous grouping that needs leadership by some elite intelligentsia. The only members of the proletariat that have been genuinely hostile to communism have been an extreme minority and typically only because of said theories.

[Mass Grave Aesthetics]

Judging from the theoretical spouting by some members here (and if they even have some contact with the working class), I'm not surprised by that, treating the proletariat as some passive homogenous grouping that needs leadership by some elite intelligentsia. The only members of the proletariat that have been genuinely hostile to communism have been an extreme minority and typically only because of said theories.
It´s very understandable. My experience is also that members of the proletariat who are hostile to communism are so because of bad experiences with leftists. I really don´t blame them. How are people supposed to respond to some insolent leftist cretins who go around treating people like mere instruments, telling them what to do and even what to think, with all the self- righteousness they are capable of? And why should workers respond kindly to some miserable political sect attemting to dictate their struggle for the sects own interests?

[Igor]

Are you saying most people are bourgois? :confused:

The bourgeois aren't really known for acting against their class interests.