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Bostana
7th May 2012, 21:23
I know what you're thinking; 'Sharia Law is Bad and should be banned.' Which is right I totally agree with you. But look at why and who is trying to pass the Bill to ban it:

State Rep. David Agema has introduced legislation (http://detnews.com/article/20110813/POLITICS02/108130365/Michigan-bill-targets-use-of-%E2%80%98foreign%E2%80%99-laws-like-Sharia) that would ban “foreign laws” in Michigan. In this week's installment of the Michigan Politics Minute, Press Editorial Page Editor Ed Golder and politics reporter Jim Harger discuss the controversial bill and what it might mean for the state.
The legislation mirrors efforts in 25 other states to stop Muslim-based “sharia law.” Sharia law is the interpretation of the Muslim holy book the Quran as well as the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad that governs personal conduct in many Islamic countries. The laws can vary from country to country, depending on individual jurists' interpretations.
Agema'sa bill is aimed at a fear among conservatives that there is a plan by Muslims to impose Sharia law on U.S. courts. The Grandville Republican points to a 2009 Oakland County court ruling in which the judge recognized the divorce of a Muslim couple because the husband traveled home to India and orally pronounced the divorce three times under Sharia law.
The decision was over-turned by the state Court of Appeals, which ruled the husband's divorce violated his Michigan wife's right to due process and was “contrary to public policy.”
Conservatives have pointed to other instances in the United States (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/shariah-law-on-americas-shores-townhall-magazine-examines-terrors-secret-weapon/), many of them involving family law cases.
Southeast Michigan has a sizable Muslim population, especially in the city of Dearborn. Last month a group of legislators along with representatives from the American Civil Liberties Union and the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), held a press conference (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2011/08/detroit_legislators_civil_righ.html) in Detroit objecting to Agema's bill.
David Walid, executive director of CAIR-Michigan, gave examples of how the bill could disrupt Islamic life. It could, for instance, spark challenges to special dietary accommodations made for Muslim students in Michigan schools. In addition, he warned, the law could potentially block public schools from holding Lenten fish fries for Catholic students or offering kosher food to Jewish youngsters.
State Representative Rashida Tlaib, D-Detroit, is Muslim. She said the Agema legislaion is xenophobic and targets Muslims. "This is taking a community and casting suspicion on them … targeting them, and it's completely wrong,” said Tlaib. “It's racism at its core.”
Agema called Tlaib's accusations “hogwash” and denied that the legislation targets Muslims. “It will prevent any religious or foreign law from taking precedence,” said Agema, who is pondering a run for Congress against U.S. Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Zeeland.
What do you think? Is Sharia law a real threat to Michigan? Is this legislation an unnecessary attack (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amy-sullivan/sharia-myth-america_b_876965.html)on Muslims?


The Link:http://www.mlive.com/opinion/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2011/09/is_muslim_sharia_law_a_problem.html

Here is another Link to it:http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/michigan-introduces-bill-to-ban-court-use-of-international-law/

They treat it like its an actual threat, not just Sharia Law, They think Islam is a religion that is dangerous to the state. It's just stupid Christians forcing their religious ways on people.

P.S. The Links I gave you may be bias towards conservatives. Which is good because this is how they actually feel.

TheGodlessUtopian
7th May 2012, 21:28
The paranoia in Americans is so thick one can practically touch it.

25 states?... yeah, because as we all know their is a concentrated effort on the part of Muslims to take over, eh? :rolleyes:

...typical ultra-nationalist Islamaphobic rhetoric and efforts from the ruling segment of society.

LeftAtheist
7th May 2012, 21:32
I'm not entirely clued up on American law, but doesn't the constitution prevent religious laws from becoing state laws already? Typical scaremongering and scapegoating.

Lev Bronsteinovich
7th May 2012, 21:32
The paranoia in Americans is so thick one can practically touch it.

25 states?... yeah, because as we all know their is a concentrated effort on the part of Muslims to take over, eh? :rolleyes:

...typical ultra-nationalist Islamaphobic rhetoric and efforts from the ruling segment of society.
Exactly -- this is not about opposing religious reaction -- this is about xenophobia and racism. Sharia law is not recognized as the law of the land in the US, period. The divorce case mentioned was either an idiotic ruling by one judge, or was based on taking into account the law of another country -- I believe that people used to go to Mexico to get a divorce and that these were recognized in the US. But the impetus against these laws is nationalistic/reactionary poison.

Left Leanings
7th May 2012, 21:37
There is a similar problem with Islamophobia in the UK, with down-market tabloid rags like The Daily Mail, banging on about Sharia Law, and women wearing the hijab etc.

This panders to groups like the EDL. Initially this scumbag outfit was set up to counter the alleged threat of an extremist politicized Islam. But of late, its rhetoric has shifted, and it speaks less of extremism, and increasingly simply of 'Muslims'.

LeftAtheist
7th May 2012, 21:39
There is a similar problem with Islamophobia in the UK, with down-market tabloid rags like The Daily Mail, banging on about Sharia Law, and women wearing the hijab etc.

This panders to groups like the EDL. Initially this scumbag outfit was set up to counter the alleged threat of an extremist politicized Islam. But of late, its rhetoric has shifted, and it speaks less of extremism, and increasingly simply of 'Muslims'.

To all who'd like to see the perfect example of the calibre of this bunch of moronic shitbags, see here:

http://www.edlnews.co.uk/index.php/featured-stories/derek-fender-corner/729-bernard-holmes-attacks-his-wife-on-face-for-halal-shopping-mishaps

ВАЛТЕР
7th May 2012, 21:42
FINALLY!! an end to the tyranny of Sharia law in the State of Michigan! No longer will the hands of thieves be cut off, or women be forced to wear a hijab! No longer will you have to fast on Ramadan! You are free Michigan! FREEE!! /sarcasm


I swear this xenophobia thing is getting so fucking stupid to the point it is hilarious.

Bostana
7th May 2012, 21:43
Typical Fasco-Christians. Use Politics of Fear to make the public hate a group of people

Vyacheslav Brolotov
7th May 2012, 21:46
Oh thankkk the lord, we can finally stop those pesky Muslims from imposing their Sharia law on us! Can I get a hallelujah?!

Bostana
7th May 2012, 21:49
Hallelujah!

Vyacheslav Brolotov
7th May 2012, 21:51
Amen....

But seriously, this is fucking stupid.

pluckedflowers
7th May 2012, 22:10
I know what you're thinking; 'Sharia Law is Bad and should be banned.' Which is right I totally agree with you.

What does that even mean, though? There's this tendency in mainstream US and European discourse to treat every concept that has an Arabic name as though it is some unique, incomparable cultural phenomenon ("oooooh, taqiyya," because everyone else in the world is a fucking Kantian and believes it's wrong to lie no matter what). We don't need to ban Sharia any more than we need to ban Halakha, Christian family values, or any other nebulous concept used by religious fanatics to justify oppression while at the same time referring to the banal life practices of most people in the world who consider themselves religious. Secularism. 'Nuff said.

Keath
7th May 2012, 22:40
Instead of passing a bill that bans sharia law they should pass a bill that bans all religious laws.

pluckedflowers
8th May 2012, 06:42
Instead of passing a bill that bans sharia law they should pass a bill that bans all religious laws.

If only someone had thought of that before and, say, put it in the constitution. That would have been nice.

Yazman
8th May 2012, 14:55
I don't get it. How do you ban something that doesn't exist anywhere in the country?

gozai
8th May 2012, 15:16
I dont really think this law will mean anything in practice.

dodger
8th May 2012, 15:52
one law for all.....

Drosophila
8th May 2012, 16:37
Where is this even done in America?

Left Leanings
8th May 2012, 17:18
If this Michigan state legislator, wants to actually introduce a Bill banning things, I can think of other priorities. How about, for example, banning cuts in welfare? Or banning the use of police batons and CS gas when policing demos and protests?

Will he address these issues?

Haha. Will he fuck.

And if he did, how much support (not to say looks of disdain), would he get from his mates, with their arses firmly parked on legislative benches?

Answers on a postcard and all that lol.

It's business as usual from the capital tools, clowns and lackeys. Stiring up shit and zenophobia, to implemet their age old strategy of divide and rule. Point the finger at the stranger, the newcomer, the immigrant, blah blah blah.

Fucking transparent, scumbag bourgeois cretins.

El Oso Rojo
8th May 2012, 18:56
Where is this even done in America?

No, Where. The reason they are doing this is because, Michgan have a high population of Arabs outside of the Arab world, so they fear since they have a bunch of Arabs in the state. Shria law would come.

MustCrushCapitalism
8th May 2012, 20:24
Does that mean I can finally take off this hijab?

Vyacheslav Brolotov
8th May 2012, 21:17
Does that mean I can finally take off this hijab?

No, Muslim reeducation camp for you, comrade.