Why did Trotsky need to die?

[Blanquist]

What was the exact point? Did he present a serious threat to Stalin's rule? Was it just revenge?

Why did the USSR give his assassin the order of Lenin and a Hero of the USSR gold star?

Why did Fidel Castro personally invite the murder to live in Cuba? Castro said that Trotsky was obviously smarter then Stalin so why were his works banned in Cuba? Did Trotsky present a threat to Castro's rule?

[Ostrinski]

He was being a pain in the ass.

[Blanquist]

He was being a pain in the ass.

By writing books that no one was even allowed to read?

[Ostrinski]

Yeah I mean if he just kinda sunk into the background and gave up no one probably woulda given a shit. Sorta like the kid who always talks shit on the playground.

[seventeethdecember2016]

Well, for one, Trotsky started giving away sensitive Soviet information to foreign governments, like the Dies Committee in the USA. You simply cannot have a guy like that walking around.

[pluckedflowers]

Whatever Stalin's reasoning, I'm sure Trotsky deserved it and that his death brought further industrialization to Soviet Russia, which, as we know, is the only really important consideration, ever.

[Ostrinski]

Trotsky is the only political dissident every liquidated by any regime ever tbh

[Blanquist]

Well, for one, Trotsky started giving away sensitive Soviet information to foreign governments, like the Dies Committee in the USA. You simply cannot have a guy like that walking around.

Trotsky hadn't been in government for over 13 years, and most of his co-workers had already been murdered, what sensitive information was he giving up?

[Blanquist]

Trotsky is the only political dissident every liquidated by any regime ever tbh

That's not true, Soviet union killed a lot of dissidents, like trying to poison that guy with the umbrella in London.

And Gaddafi make no secret of his targeting political opponents overseas. There are countless other examples.

[Ostrinski]

That's not true, Soviet union killed a lot of dissidents, like trying to poison that guy with the umbrella in London.

And Gaddafi make no secret of his targeting political opponents overseas. There are countless other examples.what for real?

[El Oso Rojo]

Trotsky hadn't been in government for over 13 years, and most of his co-workers had already been murdered, what sensitive information was he giving up?

He ran the Soviet Army during the revolution, so I am assuming he was giving military information.

[El Oso Rojo]

Well, for one, Trotsky started giving away sensitive Soviet information to foreign governments, like the Dies Committee in the USA. You simply cannot have a guy like that walking around.

According to info I had look up, he claimed he was going to use it to expose NVKD plot against him and to speak out against oppression against the American Communist Party and to called for revolution, he said in an article from socialist appeal that he had no love the Dies. They found out the game planned and kick him out the US.


Quite naive.

[Anarcho-Brocialist]

I'm obtuse to the theories Trotsky has contributed to Communist thought; I do, however, know of his assassination.

Ramón Mercader should be gracious Trotsky prohibited his body guards from killing him. On top of that, he spat on Ramón. Trotsky didn't die like a *****. :trotski: :thumbup1:

In regards to the the Dies committee,Trotsky wasn't allowed to speak because he was going to use the platform to advocate a world wide revolution.

Stalin was just an angry chap.

[Blanquist]

According to info I had look up, he claimed he was going to use it to expose NVKD plot against him and to speak out against oppression against the American Communist Party and to called for revolution, he said in an article from socialist appeal that he had no love the Dies. They found out the game planned and kick him out the US.


Quite naive.

You're calling Trotsky naive?

quite
To the utmost or most absolute extent or degree; absolutely; completely

na·ive
(of a person or action) Showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment

:rolleyes:

[Blanquist]

I'm obtuse to the theories Trotsky has contributed to Communist thought; I do, however, know of his assassination.

Ramón Mercader should be gracious Trotsky prohibited his body guards from killing him. On top of that, he spat on Ramón. Trotsky didn't die like a *****. :trotski: :thumbup1:

In regards to the the Dies committee,Trotsky wasn't allowed to speak because he was going to use the platform to advocate a world wide revolution.

Stalin was just an angry chap.

It's a tragedy of history that no one put a bullet in Stalin's ugly, evil, face.

At least he died after peeing his pants and in a pool of his own urine.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

what for real?

Hes a fucking Troll Bro. A Troll...

[Robespierres Neck]

Why did Fidel Castro personally invite the murder to live in Cuba? Castro said that Trotsky was obviously smarter then Stalin so why were his works banned in Cuba? Did Trotsky present a threat to Castro's rule?

I wasn't aware of that. Strange that the Socialist Equality Party acclaims him to be "an unconscious Trotskyist". :lol:

Anyway, he was the voice of counter-revolution, and like stated above, gave out information that was crucial to the Soviet Union's existence. He acted out of self-interest; not to mention his theories are flawed and highly idealistic. Brospierre has it right with the kid on the playground comment; whining when he doesn't get what he wants.

[Blanquist]

I wasn't aware of that. Strange that the Socialist Equality Party acclaims him to be "an unconscious Trotskyist". :lol:

Anyway, he was the voice of counter-revolution, and like stated above, gave out information that was crucial to the Soviet Union's existence. He acted out of self-interest; not to mention his theories are flawed and highly idealistic. Brospierre has it right with the kid on the playground comment; whining when he doesn't get what he wants.

Bull fucking shit.

Where does the SEP claim he's an unconscious Trotskyist!?

Nice libel, I shouldn't be surprised though, lying is Stalinists second nature..

[Ostrinski]

It's a tragedy of history that no one put a bullet in Stalin's ugly, evil, face.

At least he died after peeing his pants and in a pool of his own urine.This might be the most immature thing I've ever seen on revleft.

[Robespierres Neck]

Ramón Mercader should be gracious Trotsky prohibited his body guards from killing him. On top of that, he spat on Ramón. Trotsky didn't die like a *****. :trotski: :thumbup1:

Yeah, I'll give him that.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

It's a tragedy of history that no one put a bullet in Stalin's ugly, evil, face.

At least he died after peeing his pants and in a pool of his own urine.

Right, maybe USSR would have been better off not having industrialised under Stalin's five year plan to feed all starving peasants to then make some of the best tanks and guns in the world to nearly beat fascism alone, maybe USSR would have been better off with the magic of Comrade Trotsky... WTF.

[Prometeo liberado]

Trotsky is the only political dissident every liquidated by any regime ever tbh

Don't forget, if Bob Avakian hadn't out smarted the Illuminati he would have been the second. Pretty sure.

[Blanquist]

Right, maybe USSR would have been better off not having industrialised under Stalin's five year plan to feed all starving peasants to then make some of the best tanks and guns in the world to nearly beat fascism alone, maybe USSR would have been better off with the magic of Comrade Trotsky... WTF.

1. There was famine. Nice job feeding peasants.

2. Beat fascism alone? Or on big daddy America dollar? Even Soviet military jacket buttons were 'made in USA' nice production.

3. They would have been better off with an actual chimpanzee in charge. "Comrade Monkey, the genius of all genius"

[Robespierres Neck]

Bull fucking shit.

Where does the SEP claim he's an unconscious Trotskyist!?

Nice libel, I shouldn't be surprised though, lying is Stalinists second nature..

My bad, it was the SWP that said it. Still a Trotskyist party.

[Lucretia]

What a stupid fucking thread this has turned out to be.

[seventeethdecember2016]

1. There was famine. Nice job feeding peasants.

The famine was more attributed to the taking of land from Kulaks and mistakes run by the Ukrainian Bureaucracy rather than central deficiencies.


2. Beat fascism alone? Or on big daddy America dollar? Even Soviet military jacket buttons were 'made in USA' nice production.
You do realize that almost 100% of the army supplies, that the Soviet Union used in WW2, were homemade? The supplies from the US were for extra leverage, and were usually used for the Baltic campaigns.

It should also be noted that the US and UK simply let the Eastern Theater play out before they got to intimate with the war. The fact that Americans try to take credit for WWII's victory is more than laughable.


3. They would have been better off with an actual chimpanzee in charge. "Comrade Monkey, the genius of all genius"
Brospierre, are you sure this isn't the most immature thing I've ever seen on RevLeft, rather than the other nonsense he stated earlier?

[Blanquist]

The famine was more attributed to the taking of land from Kulaks and mistakes run by the Ukrainian Bureaucracy rather than central deficiencies.

You do realize that almost 100% of the army supplies, that the Soviet Union used in WW2, were homemade? The supplies from the US were for extra leverage, and were usually used for the Baltic campaigns.

Brospierre, are you sure this isn't the most immature thing I've ever seen on RevLeft, rather than the other nonsense he stated earlier?

Stalin himself said without US help the war would be unwinable.

I'm not going to argue this. You are an ignorant.

[Robespierres Neck]

Stalin himself said without US help the war would be unwinable.

I'm not going to argue this. You are an ignorant.

Well, it was a world war and all.....

And with the threat of fascism/national socialism sweeping across Europe, why take the risk of depleting your chances? Thanks to the Soviets, it was successfully crushed.

[seventeethdecember2016]

Stalin himself said without US help the war would be unwinable.

I'm not going to argue this. You are an ignorant.
If he actually stated that, it was likely just a friendly gesture. If you can, I'd like to see the actual quote.

Just as a note: You shouldn't be calling people ignorant on these forums. Some people might consider it a touch ironic.

[Ostrinski]

trotsky is zodiac killer

[Robespierres Neck]

Just as a note: You shouldn't be calling people ignorant on these forums. Some people might consider it a touch ironic.


:laugh:

[El Oso Rojo]

You're calling Trotsky naive?

quite
To the utmost or most absolute extent or degree; absolutely; completely

na·ive
(of a person or action) Showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment

:rolleyes:

Yes, for thinking that they will let him get away with something they don't want to hear.

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

Originally Posted by ProvenSocialist
Ramón Mercader should be gracious Trotsky prohibited his body guards from killing him. On top of that, he spat on Ramón. Trotsky didn't die like a *****.

Yeah, I'll give him that.

Yes, that was probably because he was a communist!:)

This does somehow remind of a big LOL moment i just had watching MRN2, LOL @2:00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUevbj5l3wc)

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

2. Beat fascism alone? Or on big daddy America dollar? Even Soviet military jacket buttons were 'made in USA' nice production.

Axis divisions destroyed by USSR = 607
Axis divisions destroyed by USA + UK (on all fronts) = 176

Divisions faced on D-Day by allied forces = 30 divisions
Divisions faced by the Red Army on Operation Bagration = 165 divisions

You are a Troll.

[Omsk]

Someone should close this thread (Unless we want to listen to more things like this:At least he died after peeing his pants and in a pool of his own urine.) and explain to Blanquist why he shouldn't open stupid threads like this.

And to those who want to defend him with all the: "He wants to learn etc etc" - this is not learning,this is just flame-baiting.

[Blanquist]

^^^ I agree, close this thread, I should have thought better than to make this thread, should have foreseen that some Stalinist's would come to make disparaging remarks and jokes justifying assassinations.

Just to add on the WW2 though, and I won't reply or discuss it further, but citations were asked for.


Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war.

J. Stalin, http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,791211,00.html

[Zealot]

Blanquist just made this thread to have a tantrum obviously.

[Robespierres Neck]

He's itching to get restricted/banned.

[Omsk]

Just to add on the WW2 though, and I won't reply or discuss it further, but citations were asked for.



We all know that the USSR was capable of ending the war alone,and that without the Soviet Union,the allies would have perished.I don't want to go down into pointless discussion over this,because it has already been explained.

[Blanquist]

Someone should close this thread (Unless we want to listen to more things like this:At least he died after peeing his pants and in a pool of his own urine.) and explain to Blanquist why he shouldn't open stupid threads like this.

And to those who want to defend him with all the: "He wants to learn etc etc" - this is not learning,this is just flame-baiting.

Oh, Trotsky should be killed because he's 'acting like a child' and 'talking shit' but Stalin doesn't deserve a bullet for being a genocidal mass murderer? Selective reading on your part.

[Blanquist]

We all know that the USSR was capable of ending the war alone,and that without the Soviet Union,the allies would have perished.I don't want to go down into pointless discussion over this,because it has already been explained.

It's pointless because it's absurd.

Seems most Stalinist's worship him most of all because he was a warlord.

Many people in Europe fought and died heroically but to act like Stalin saved all of humanity is laughable.

[Zealot]

I should have thought better than to make this thread, should have foreseen that some Stalinist's would come to make disparaging remarks and jokes justifying assassinations.

So after asking us why Stalin had Trotsky assassinated you now wonder why we answered you? And then after your slander and bad jokes about Stalin you accuse us of "disparaging remarks and jokes"?

Is this you irl by any chance:
http://pps.battlefield.hu/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/trollface.jpg

[Blanquist]

So after asking us why Stalin had Trotsky assassinated you now wonder why we answered you? And then after your slander and bad jokes about Stalin you accuse us of "disparaging remarks and jokes"?

Is this you irl by any chance:


slan·der
The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation



Where?

[corolla]

Trotsky certainly did not need to die at all.

[Zealot]

slan·der
The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation



Where?

Your dictionary fetishism is quite annoying, but here are a few gems from this thread alone:


...Stalin's ugly, evil, face.


...lying is Stalinists second nature..


They would have been better off with an actual chimpanzee in charge. "Comrade Monkey, the genius of all genius"


...Stalin doesn't deserve a bullet for being a genocidal mass murderer?

[Blanquist]

Your dictionary fetishism is quite annoying, but here are a few gems from this thread alone:

None of that constitutes slander or 'libel'/

[Blanquist]

Anyways, this thread got off way off topic and I don't see it getting back on topic so I'm done with it.

[Ostrinski]

there can only be one highlander

[Zealot]

None of that constitutes slander or 'libel'/

slander |ˈslandər|
• the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation : he is suing the TV network for slander. Compare with libel .

• a false and malicious spoken statement : I've had just about all I can stomach of your slanders.

verb [ trans. ]
make false and damaging statements about (someone) : they were accused of slandering the head of state.

You've completely exposed yourself as a pathetic troll and have degenerated the discussion into semantics after realising the idiocy of your own remarks.

It would be nice if you would care to answer the reply we've all given to the original question at hand instead of trolling. Although, I'm not counting on it.

[Per Levy]

judging from that this thread degenerated with the op its pretty useless to write a serious respnse.

[Blanquist]

slander |ˈslandər|
• the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation : he is suing the TV network for slander. Compare with libel .

• a false and malicious spoken statement : I've had just about all I can stomach of your slanders.

verb [ trans. ]
make false and damaging statements about (someone) : they were accused of slandering the head of state.

You've completely exposed yourself as a pathetic troll and have degenerated the discussion into semantics after realising the idiocy of your own remarks.

It would be nice if you would care to answer the reply we've all given to the original question at hand instead of trolling. Although, I'm not counting on it.

A response to what reply? And all your 'slander' definitions say the same thing "false statements" I have made no false statements. The Stalinist poster did lie about the SEP and then apologized, Stalin was a genocidal maniac, etc.

You would like a response from me concerning what?

[Blake's Baby]

Trotsky had to die so Hitler could go to war with Stalin.

Otherwise, if he was still alive, a Hitler/Stalin war would end up with Trotsky waltzing in to take the cake at the end and Hitler and Stalin shouting 'd'oh!' at each other. That's the real reason for the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, to stop Trotsky.

So because Stalin wanted the Soviet Union to be invaded he had to have Trotsky killed, much as it made his powerful moustache sad, because Comrade Stalin loves all the little kittens, but he forsaw with his copy of 'The Works and Deeds of Comrade Lenin' and his powerful moustache that it was he only way to defeat Hitler. Because Hitler with his unimpressive moustache was not mad or powerful enough to defeat Comrade Stalin and was too frightened of Trotsky's Jewish hair to invade while Trotsky was hiding from fancy-dress surrealists in Mexico.

Obviously.

Except the bit about kittens.

[Rooster]

Well, Stalin had the rest of the remaining bolsheviks killed so he was probably just wanting loose ends tied up.

[Omsk]

Well, Stalin had the rest of the remaining bolsheviks killed so he was probably just wanting loose ends tied up.


What about Molotov? Kaganovich? Grigol? Kirov? I know you are trying to be funny,but at least make proper jokes.Shoo now.

[Robespierres Neck]

judging from that this thread degenerated with the op its pretty useless to write a serious respnse.

Degenerated workers' thread.

[OnlyCommunistYouKnow]

Oh, Trotsky should be killed because he's 'acting like a child' and 'talking shit' but Stalin doesn't deserve a bullet for being a genocidal mass murderer? Selective reading on your part.

*claps slowly*

[Brosip Tito]

Why did Trotsky need to die? I think that's fairly obvious...

TO SAVE GLORIOUS MARXIST-LENINIST RUSSIA FROM THE GRIPS OF THE FASCIST REVISIONIST BOURGEOIS SCUM THAT WAS TROTSKY AND TROTSKYISM!!

*sheds tear for Stalin's gloriousness*

Quite honestly, Trotsky didn't "need to die". Stalin wanted him dead, because Trotsky was an actual proletarian threat to the bureaucratic capitalist dictatorship.

[Rooster]

What about Molotov? Kaganovich? Grigol? Kirov? I know you are trying to be funny,but at least make proper jokes.Shoo now.

Typically you are unable to, or unwilling to, understand the meat of the argument. And I love your choices here. Stone arse and the other boot lickers. I wonder why they were spared the purges. Kirov and Grigol both died in the 30s as well. Being dead doesn't hold up much of an opposition.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Because dear leader Stalin recognized that Colonol Sanders (known to the un-enlightened as Trotsky) and his international fried chicken conspiracy was a threat to the democratic dictatorship of the proleteriat and peasantry. I mean, if having 11 secret spices isn't a decadent bourgeois aberration, then what is?

[Drowzy_Shooter]

Trotsky HAD to die simply so Daft Punk could have something to talk about.

[Psy]

He ran the Soviet Army during the revolution, so I am assuming he was giving military information.
Military information that by then was horribly out of date as since Trotsky left the Red Army started using light armor and relying more heavily on artillery, the Red Air Force become relevant and the first air borne units where created.

The real reason Stalin killed Trotsky was the fear that Trotsky would lead another workers state like revolution Spain that would make USSR foreign policy problematic as the USSR would have to deal a worker state engaged in permanent revolution and trying to overthrow the capitalist "allies" of the USSR like Great Britain and France.

[JAM]

The thread already derailed but I would like to add a detail that apparently no one here remembered: Trotsky advocated for the revolutionary defeatism in the II World War, including in USSR. Trotsky and his followers were obviously interested in USSR defeat to remove Stalin from power just like it happen to the Czarism in the I World War.

[Psy]

The thread already derailed but I would like to add a detail that apparently no one here remembered: Trotsky advocated for the revolutionary defeatism in the II World War, including in USSR. Trotsky and his followers were obviously interested in USSR defeat to remove Stalin from power just like it happen to the Czarism in the I World War.
This was not wanting the USSR to be defeated by Hitler, but rather the war straining Stalin's ability to remain in power and is replaced by a better workers state, one better at defending the USSR from Hitler and better able to spread the revolution abroad.

[JAM]

This was not wanting the USSR to be defeated by Hitler, but rather the war straining Stalin's ability to remain in power and is replaced by a better workers state, one better at defending the USSR from Hitler and better able to spread the revolution abroad.

I can give you examples of Trotskists working for Hitler against USSR if you want.

[Psy]

I can give you examples of Trotskists working for Hitler against USSR if you want.
That were created by Stalin to discredit Trosky.

The idea of Trosky working for Hitler is ridiculous, Hitler was a raving anti-semitic and Trotsky was a Jew, not only that but Hitler was anti-Bolshevik so at no point could Trotsky have viewed Nazi Germany as anything but hostile to him.

[JAM]

That were created by Stalin to discredit Trosky.

The idea of Trosky working for Hitler is ridiculous, Hitler was a raving anti-semitic and Trotsky was a Jew, not only that but Hitler was anti-Bolshevik so at no point could Trotsky have viewed Nazi Germany as anything but hostile to him.

You didn't understand me. I said trotskists, not Trotsky himself.

[Psy]

You didn't understand me. I said trotskists, not Trotsky himself.
That brings up the problem that Trotsky saw Hitler as a much larger threat then Stalin, it is just that Trotsky didn't think Stalin would survive the coming war and to a point he was right, Stalin made it easier for Hitler by ignoring initial reports of the invasion and allowing his armies to get encircled, also by sending his top engineers to the gulags.

As for Trotskyists working with Nazi Germany, what is a Trotskyist? We have Trotsky making it very clear Nazi Germany had to be opposed so can anyone working with Nazi Germany be viewed as a Trotskyist?

[JAM]

That brings up the problem that Trotsky saw Hitler as a much larger threat then Stalin, it is just that Trotsky didn't think Stalin would survive the coming war and to a point he was right, Stalin made it easier for Hitler by ignoring initial reports of the invasion and allowing his armies to get encircled, also by sending his top engineers to the gulags.

As for Trotskyists working with Nazi Germany, what is a Trotskyist? We have Trotsky making it very clear Nazi Germany had to be opposed so can anyone working with Nazi Germany be viewed as a Trotskyist?

Yes, if he was advocating revolutionary defeatism it can be viewed like that. What revolutionary defeatism means to you?

Trotsky also stated that USSR was only worth of being defended if Stalin was overthrown like the Czar was in 1917:

"Against the imperialist foe we will defend the USSR with all our might. However, the conquests of the October revolution will serve the people only if they prove themselves capable of dealing with the Stalinist bureaucracy as in their day they dealt with the Tsarist bureaucracy and the bourgeoisie."

[Psy]

Yes, if he was advocating revolutionary defeatism it can be viewed like that. What revolutionary defeatism means to you?

Trotsky also stated that USSR was only worth of being defended if Stalin was overthrown like the Czar was in 1917:

"Against the imperialist foe we will defend the USSR with all our might. However, the conquests of the October revolution will serve the people only if they prove themselves capable of dealing with the Stalinist bureaucracy as in their day they dealt with the Tsarist bureaucracy and the bourgeoisie."


He was not advocating revolutionary defeatism, your quote proves it "Against the imperialist foe we will defend the USSR with all our might". What Trotsky was saying was the same thing Lenin was saying, that the growing bureaucracy of the USSR was undermining the revolution and if left unchecked would become a counter-revolutionary force which it did.

[JAM]

He was not advocating revolutionary defeatism, your quote proves it "Against the imperialist foe we will defend the USSR with all our might". What Trotsky was saying was the same thing Lenin was saying, that the growing bureaucracy of the USSR was undermining the revolution and if left unchecked would become a counter-revolutionary force which it did.

Did you read only the first part of the quote? Read the whole quote and not just the most convenient part for you.

I have also quotes from other trotskists advocating the defeat of the USSR in the II World War if you want.

[Psy]

Did you read only the first part of the quote? Read the whole quote and not just the most convenient part for you.

I have also quotes from other trotskists advocating the defeat of the USSR in the II World War if you want.
Yes it talks of overthrowing the Stalinist bureaucracy under Stalin the growing bureaucracy that Lenin complained about had flourished. This same bureaucracy reversed every gain of Bolshevik revolution by the collapse of the USSR and now are fully bourgeoisie. Thus how is Trotsky wrong, the failure to deal with Stalinist bureaucracy resulted in counter-revolution regardless if Stalinist wanted it to or not.

[Geiseric]

Did you read only the first part of the quote? Read the whole quote and not just the most convenient part for you.

I have also quotes from other trotskists advocating the defeat of the USSR in the II World War if you want.

None of those quotes exist and if you misconstrue some quotes from Trotsky it's your own fault for approaching them with pre conceived notions that you maybe took from some Stalinist. Fact of the matter is that Trotsky was more anti fascist than the Communists, and the Stalinist international was incapible due to its constant reformism and alliances with the bourgeoisie to lead the working class against Fascism. Popular frontism was the epitome of Stalinism and it was a disasterous failure.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I'm obtuse to the theories Trotsky has contributed to Communist thought; I do, however, know of his assassination.

Ramón Mercader should be gracious Trotsky prohibited his body guards from killing him. On top of that, he spat on Ramón. Trotsky didn't die like a *****. :trotski: :thumbup1:

In regards to the the Dies committee,Trotsky wasn't allowed to speak because he was going to use the platform to advocate a world wide revolution.

Stalin was just an angry chap.

Verbal warning for prejudice language.

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This topic is one of the most absurd topics I have seen on Rev-Left in a while.

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