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Zostrianos
2nd May 2012, 17:26
This is the kind of stuff some Christian preachers are telling their congregations to do, if they find out their kids are gay

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bad ideas actualised by alcohol
2nd May 2012, 17:32
If only I could knock some sense into this guy.

TheGodlessUtopian
2nd May 2012, 17:33
There was a similar news story about this a while ago in which a reporter collected a bunch of the most bigoted tweets from Twitter. Nothing really new but it certainly highlights the mindset of these reactionaries.

Zav
2nd May 2012, 17:33
That fucker needs to lose some teeth. It's shit like this that makes me want to support church burnings.

TheGodlessUtopian
2nd May 2012, 17:35
If only I could knock some sense into this fucking ****.

Verbal waring for chauvinist language.

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You shouldn't let your hatred of reactionaries lead you into spreading discrimination against another oppressed segment of society.To counteract this I try my best to avoid any such words.It is hard but worth it,in my opinion.

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
2nd May 2012, 17:38
Verbal waring for chauvinist language.

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You shouldn't let your hatred of reactionaries lead you into spreading discrimination against another oppressed segment of society.To counteract this I try my best to avoid any such words.It is hard but worth it,in my opinion.


I understand what you mean, but how am I exactly spreading discrimination?

Zav
2nd May 2012, 17:42
I understand what you mean, but how am I exactly spreading discrimination?
'****' is a slur for 'vagina' and 'woman' and is interchangeable with negative things you can call someone like '*****', 'asshole', 'fucker', etcetera. It's like saying 'That's so gay.' When you call someone a **** you are associating them with being equivalent to a vagina or a woman, which demeans women because the association is negative.

TheGodlessUtopian
2nd May 2012, 17:43
I understand what you mean, but how am I exactly spreading discrimination?

Language is how.When you call another person,object,event,etc a word with negative connotations you are attributing that person (etc) to the cultural meanings of the word. For example, when teenagers call things they dislike gay that automatically presumes that there is something wrong with homosexuals as to warrant using it as a derogatory phrase.Same basic principal when using words like the "C Word."

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
2nd May 2012, 17:47
My bad. I don't really meant the female genitalia though. But I shall edit my post.

Zostrianos
3rd May 2012, 17:37
Now the preacher says he didn't really mean it
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Left Leanings
3rd May 2012, 21:08
As a bisexual man, and a former Christian (family decision, not mine), I can't say I'm surprised by the suggestions of this god-shagging freak.

Thank fuck I dumped Christianity and all that hocus pocus, and embraced atheism years ago.

Zostrianos
5th May 2012, 04:32
The pastor finally apologized (and lied about what he said....)
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Redjay
5th May 2012, 10:16
regardless of weather he denies it,it shows how homophobic this world still is

tachosomoza
6th May 2012, 05:51
You think this is something bad, you should see how African American churches deal with those who stray from their rigid doctrine. They have something called 'tarrying', which essentially means talk in gibberish and beat the holy fuck out of the "offender". Along with that, they'll disown their kids if they rebel or embrace their orientation. All the while, the pastor is having underaged sex with all the girls (or boys) in the church. Hypocrites, the lot of them.

Le Rouge
6th May 2012, 06:00
'****' is a slur for 'vagina' and 'woman' and is interchangeable with negative things you can call someone like '*****', 'asshole', 'fucker', etcetera. It's like saying 'That's so gay.' When you call someone a **** you are associating them with being equivalent to a vagina or a woman, which demeans women because the association is negative.

What about the famous :

"Stop being a dick!"

Is that more acceptable?

Koba Junior
6th May 2012, 06:22
How very sick do you have to be to impose these preconceptions onto children through violence? This does not indicate a healthy psyche. People who behave in this manner need to be treated medically.

seventeethdecember2016
6th May 2012, 07:03
The speech by that Preacher wasn't too dissimilar from what I often hear those around me say. About a week ago, I was on the Metro when I overheard a man asking the man sitting next to him, who I assume was his friend, for advice on how to punish his son's homosexuality.
Events like this have become a commonality in my area, which, to be disgust, has begun to influence the younger generations who I always hear using slurs.

I doubt there is much hope, in my city at least, for homophobia to be quashed.

seventeethdecember2016
6th May 2012, 07:04
Double post.

tachosomoza
6th May 2012, 07:15
The speech by that Preacher wasn't too dissimilar from what I often hear those around me say. About a week ago, I was on the Metro when I overheard a man asking the man sitting next to him, who I assume was his friend, for advice on how to punish his son's homosexuality.
Events like this have become a commonality in my area, which, to be disgust, has begun to influence the younger generations who I always hear using slurs.

I doubt there is much hope, in my city at least, for homophobia to be quashed.

There's hope. We must work to counter the fear, which breeds hatred amongst the working class. Education is the best weapon for social and class progress.

Vyacheslav Brolotov
6th May 2012, 07:25
Now the preacher says he didn't really mean it
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Too bad some idiots might have taken him seriously.

I didn't post this on this thread, but on the other about the same topic, yet my opinion has not really changed:

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Obviously, I can't have everything I want :(, so what about just a regular jail if this stupid bourgeois justice system notices that this is a an incitement to committ child abuse, a crime?

Koba Junior
6th May 2012, 07:32
Obviously, I can't have everything I want :(, so what about just a regular jail if this stupid bourgeois justice system notices that this is a an incitement to committ child abuse, a crime?

I'd hate to say it, but the United States is such a reactionary country that he will likely go unpunished on the grounds of his freedom to religion and speech. This same logic goes into supplying fascists with police escorts to march through minority neighborhoods, while at the same time using pepper-spray on peaceful protesters sitting on a sidewalk. We care more about abstract freedoms than the freedom of adults and children not to be terrorized.

The Machine
6th May 2012, 16:31
Language is how.When you call another person,object,event,etc a word with negative connotations you are attributing that person (etc) to the cultural meanings of the word. For example, when teenagers call things they dislike gay that automatically presumes that there is something wrong with homosexuals as to warrant using it as a derogatory phrase.Same basic principal when using words like the "C Word."

he might be english tho, it has a different connotation over there.

gorillafuck
6th May 2012, 16:44
'****' is a slur for 'vagina' and 'woman' and is interchangeable with negative things you can call someone like '*****', 'asshole', 'fucker', etcetera. It's like saying 'That's so gay.' When you call someone a **** you are associating them with being equivalent to a vagina or a woman, which demeans women because the association is negative.wait did you just give the example of "*****" as a politically correct substitute for ****?:confused:

LeftAtheist
6th May 2012, 16:50
he might be english tho, it has a different connotation over there.

This is true. In Britain, the word "****" doesn't have any especially sexist connotations, at least no moreso than the word "dick". I understand that this isn't the case in North America, however and given that most English speaking users of this forum are from North America, it might be a good idea to refrain from using it all the same.

Ocean Seal
6th May 2012, 17:11
What about the famous :

"Stop being a dick!"

Is that more acceptable?
I don't generally find the word **** sexist either as it just denotes someone who is being a generally distateful person as opposed to pussy which implies that women are weak.

On topic: I'm sure the pastor isn't the only one advocating this shit.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
7th May 2012, 07:40
This is true. In Britain, the word "****" doesn't have any especially sexist connotations
A term referring to female genitalia being used as a derogatory term always has sexist connotations. Just because it's a general term of abuse in Britain, if you stop and think about it, it is sexist.

dodger
7th May 2012, 09:14
A term referring to female genitalia being used as a derogatory term always has sexist connotations. Just because it's a general term of abuse in Britain, if you stop and think about it, it is sexist.

Term of endearment too. Frustration.Wonder.Often neutral..but as you point out Danielle derogatory too. On a blog--how would we know for sure, I avoid the use here. At other times...another matter.

dodger
7th May 2012, 09:40
My friend late in life married a Mexican Academic. Wanting to remain active and contribute to the budget he found work at a christian school catering for American children. He soon found out why they had moved south of the border. The place was an utter obscenity. Many had mushroomed up, low set up costs poor /nil supervision of teaching practice. He lasted a term, going on to teach English as 2nd language, away from religious cranks. Psychological abuse along with traumatic physical restraint involving force. rightly outlawed elsewhere. No out right beatings, too cunning. Endless religious indoctrination. Sent by 'concerned' parents for what he described as normal silly teenage goings on, we are all too familiar with. To them SATAN was within or at least perched on the shoulder. It was appalling....not least because as he said I was a fucking postman!!! It was assumed as he was a Briton he would be christian(Not at all). That's OK then!

brigadista
7th May 2012, 13:25
exorcisms on the rise here- like tarrying -seems to be carried out on teenagers and children that dont behave as they are told - most notorious case was victoria climbie who was killed and recently another child-

these accursed churches are preying on poor peoples fears and insecurities and at the same time expecting the poor congregation to pay for the hustling pastors-

congregation told its a sin to claim benefits -would interfere with the hustle....

also this is not exclusive to black churches- this hustle is multiracial...

fabian
7th May 2012, 13:32
Seems like no one watched the 1:05 - 1:45

Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores
7th May 2012, 16:20
Goddammit.......

TheRadicalAnarchist
19th June 2012, 03:02
Can someone say "hate crime"? This is outright bigotry, it's guys like these that gives Christianity a bad name. Not only is he supporting the beating of gays, but the beating of children. I find both vile and disgusting.

tachosomoza
19th June 2012, 05:44
Well, Christianity doesn't necessarily need any assistance looking bad. They condemn what they see as "degeneracy" and "moral turpitude", yet their holy text dictates that you should burn your house down if you find mold, treat female bodied individuals as property, endorses slavery, and also says that people can rise from the dead, walk on water, and turn into pillars of salt in a nanosecond. And the kicker is that they constantly lambast Muslims for things in the Qur'an, yet the two are virtually identical and both have a history of brutal violence and oppression.

DasFapital
21st June 2012, 17:09
as someone who grew up pentecostal I can tell you this kind of stupidity is in no short supply in the USA. The fact that they encourage teens to go overseas on mission trips to promote their reactionary bigotry in the third world is only more sickening, but for some reason most of society applauds this as "charity". They have always tried to exploit the poor. In my teens I volunteered in a local church run food bank and saw how heavily they rationed the food so conveniently there would be a bunch of extra leftover for the pastor, who did nothing but sit on his ass the whole day, to take home and have for himself.

Rafiq
21st June 2012, 18:17
The answer of all communists to this (clerics) can only be given with physical force.


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Don't Swallow The Cap
21st June 2012, 19:28
What a lame scapegoat this scumbag preacher used.
"Well Jesus did X, so it's fine to do Y"
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Regicollis
24th June 2012, 02:15
I'll take Bible fundamentalists serious the day they put as much emphasis on "If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven" (Matt 19:21) as to the stuff Paul wrote about gays. Until they do that I can't consider them to be anything more than useful idiots for the ruling class.

Klaatu
24th June 2012, 02:20
If only I could knock some sense into this guy.

You might end up completely knocking out what little sense he already has! ;)

The Fighting_Crusnik
24th June 2012, 03:46
It's truly amazing what Christianity has become here in America -.-... you have idiots like this guy telling people that child abuse is alright and then you got churches like my 'rents where the preachers call for tolerance, equality and understanding just to be repaid with anger, hatred and a dwindling attendance because of where she stands... People are and will always be idiots.

The Red Hammer and Sickle
24th June 2012, 03:58
This is disgusting. As a Christian I know there are parts of the Bible that say homosexuality is wrong, but accepting all people is a more important aspect of the religion. People like this preacher make me sick.

Regicollis
24th June 2012, 07:56
Literalism is one of the oldest heresies and I doubt Christianity will ever get totally rid of it.

shinjuku dori
30th June 2012, 07:41
'****' is a slur for 'vagina' and 'woman' and is interchangeable with negative things you can call someone like '*****', 'asshole', 'fucker', etcetera. It's like saying 'That's so gay.' When you call someone a **** you are associating them with being equivalent to a vagina or a woman, which demeans women because the association is negative.

What if you call someone a dick?