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milkmiku
27th April 2012, 03:07
Up until this afternoon, the final vote on CISPA was supposed to be tomorrow. Then, abruptly, it was moved up today—and the House voted in favor of its passage with a vote of 248-168. But that's not even the worst part.
The vote followed the debate on amendments, several of which were passed. Among them was an absolutely terrible change (http://www.rules.house.gov/Media/file/PDF_112_2/Reports/HRPT-112-HR3523HR4628.pdf) (pdf and embedded below—scroll to amendment #6) to the definition of what the government can do with shared information, put forth by Rep. Quayle. Astonishingly, it was described as limiting the government's power, even though it in fact expands it by adding more items to the list of acceptable purposes for which shared information can be used. Even more astonishingly, it passed with a near-unanimous vote. The CISPA that was just approved by the House is much worse than the CISPA being discussed as recently as this morning.
Previously, CISPA allowed the government to use information for "cybersecurity" or "national security" purposes. Those purposes have not been limited or removed. Instead, three more valid uses have been added: investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crime, protection of individuals, and protection of children. Cybersecurity crime is defined as any crime involving network disruption or hacking, plus any violation of the CFAA.
Basically this means CISPA can no longer be called a cybersecurity bill at all. The government would be able to search information it collects under CISPA for the purposes of investigating American citizens with complete immunity from all privacy protections as long as they can claim someone committed a "cybersecurity crime". Basically it says the 4th Amendment does not apply online, at all. Moreover, the government could do whatever it wants with the data as long as it can claim that someone was in danger of bodily harm, or that children were somehow threatened—again, notwithstanding absolutely any other law that would normally limit the government's power.
Somehow, incredibly, this was described as limiting CISPA, but it accomplishes the exact opposite. This is very, very bad.
There were some good amendments adopted too—clarifying some definitions, including the fact that merely violating a TOS does not constitute unauthorized network access—but frankly none of them matter in the light of this change. CISPA is now a completely unsupportable bill that rewrites (and effectively eliminates) all privacy laws for any situation that involves a computer. Far from the defense against malevolent foreign entities that the bill was described as by its authors, it is now an explicit attack on the freedoms of every American.


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120426/14505718671/insanity-cispa-just-got-way-worse-then-passed-rushed-vote.shtml

Obeezy has "promised" to veto this, like he promised to veto NDAA.

Hold on to your butts and charge those freesites..

Anarcho-Brocialist
27th April 2012, 03:15
Isn't America supposed to be free and brave? We gave up freedom to be safe. That's not bravery, and what we have certainly isn't freedom.

milkmiku
27th April 2012, 03:20
Isn't America supposed to be free and brave? We gave up freedom to be safe. That's not safe, and what we have certainly isn't freedom.


Maybe 200 years ago when people were attacking native peoples with superior weaponry. These days Americans are sheep and the government knows it.

things to get massive support form the Americans..

"protect the children"
"defend our freedoms"
"prevent terrorism"
"lower oil prices"
"defend Israel"
"it's socialist"


Throw one of those behind whatever you're pushing and you're sure to get massive support for a while. Even throwing away basic rights.

milkmiku
27th April 2012, 03:50
HAHAHA not a single one voted No, fuck em all.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h188

Zav
27th April 2012, 04:19
This happens, and yet no one in real life gives a shit or believes me when I tell them their precious America is turning into the Fourth Reich.
Edit: Not in a celebratory mood, but 500 posts. Yay.

TheGodlessUtopian
27th April 2012, 04:29
Formality, is all.

Misanthrope
29th April 2012, 17:24
The constitution doesn't mean shit, property laws govern America. Property is placed above humanity which places censorship about freedom of speech. We must fight for the internet, the freest medium known to man.

danyboy27
2nd May 2012, 15:01
And just like east germany, the U.S governement will be overwhelmed by all this data and will not be able to do a damn thing with it.

Great britain was full of camera prior to the london bombing and it didnt do squat.