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Blanquist
25th April 2012, 07:14
If I were to start a factory that made something like hammers, and I used robots to operate the CNC machines and the CMM's etc. And had no actual workers, what would this be considered? I wouldn't be technically exploiting workers but where is the surplus value coming from?

Sorry, im very to to economic study.

seventeethdecember2016
25th April 2012, 07:33
Comrade Workers-Control-Over-Prod (http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=62456) made a good post about this very topic.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/third-industrial-revolution-t170622/index.html?t=170622

Delenda Carthago
25th April 2012, 08:23
http://www.revleft.com/vb/revolutionary-analysis-automation-t169109/index.html?t=169109&highlight=automation

Lowtech
19th May 2012, 00:00
a fully automated factory is a great idea really, although depends on how you use it, would you sell the products at a profit, or would you sell it at cost?

regardless of weather or not you exploit workers, if you sell at a profit, you're still exploiting your customers, and in that sense, mathematically, its equal to instead of the customer buying your product, say, they work in your factory making 40 hammers an hour but only taking home 5 of those hammers.

there's no way around the bullshit that is capitalism.