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Deicide
22nd April 2012, 08:38
Someone calls Zizek a dogmatic lacanian :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p36NeCAucRI

Os Cangaceiros
22nd April 2012, 08:39
I'm so sick of seeing Zizek's beardy face, I'm so sick of seeing his name on this site.

Deicide
22nd April 2012, 08:41
I'm so sick of seeing Zizek's beardy face, I'm so sick of seeing his name on this site.

Then don't view the thread, it'll only raise your blood pressure and intensify your neurotic hatred for beards.

Os Cangaceiros
22nd April 2012, 08:52
To be serious for a moment, though, I honestly have never come across anything that Zizek has ever said that was even remotely insightful, or that hadn't been said better by someone before Zizek. I have absolutely no idea why he's such a leftie celebrity, except (and probably the most obvious explanation) for the fact that he's a massive IRL troll.

Rocky Rococo
22nd April 2012, 09:28
In the process of political theory, there are various roles. Zizek isn't a particularly innovative or original thinker, nor a particularly deep one. What he is is an effective popularizer, one who moves a discussion out of the theoretical cloisters into the more general discourse.

escapingNihilism
22nd April 2012, 10:08
what they're actually talking about is so horribly abstract. "ACADEMIC politics are so vicious precisely because the stakes are so small"... revolutionary leftist favorite Henry Kissinger

ed miliband
22nd April 2012, 14:10
To be serious for a moment, though, I honestly have never come across anything that Zizek has ever said that was even remotely insightful, or that hadn't been said better by someone before Zizek. I have absolutely no idea why he's such a leftie celebrity, except (and probably the most obvious explanation) for the fact that he's a massive IRL troll.

i think it's because he manages to say some quite obvious things in complicated language which makes people feel clever cos they "get it"

mostly my problem with him and his ilk is that they don't really know what communism is and are getting bucks turning it into some weird academic exercise

Hiero
23rd April 2012, 05:32
The question put to Zizek was not "are you a Lacanian dogmatist" it was first a point "you mis-read Derrida" then a question "do you misread because you are a Lacanian dogmatist?".

I think his comment was quite valid, Lacanians are considered dogmatic and Derrida(ist) are consider not dogmatic. But he never addressed the claim put forward that he misreads Derrida. That would have been interesting to hear his response.

Luís Henrique
29th June 2012, 02:57
I'm so sick of seeing Zizek's beardy face, I'm so sick of seeing his name on this site.

Zizek's?

Luís Henrique

Comrade Trollface
30th June 2012, 21:23
To be serious for a moment, though, I honestly have never come across anything that Zizek has ever said that was even remotely insightful, or that hadn't been said better by someone before Zizek. I have absolutely no idea why he's such a leftie celebrity, except (and probably the most obvious explanation) for the fact that he's a massive IRL troll.

You've basically summed up the whole Zizek phenomenon right there.

DasFapital
10th July 2012, 02:33
I think he needs some sleep. Look at those rings under his eyes!

JustMovement
10th July 2012, 03:31
To be serious for a moment, though, I honestly have never come across anything that Zizek has ever said that was even remotely insightful, or that hadn't been said better by someone before Zizek. I have absolutely no idea why he's such a leftie celebrity, except (and probably the most obvious explanation) for the fact that he's a massive IRL troll.

On the kasamaproject website there is a good, quite long interview with zizek that is essentially just about leftist politics. some of it is a bit philosophical but its mostly straitforward. I think he has, despite all the pomo lacanian jargon wahtever, really good politics and its worth checking out.

http://kasamaproject.org/2012/01/10/interview-with-zizek-occupy-renascent-left-and-marxism-today/

Ocean Seal
10th July 2012, 04:50
i think it's because he manages to say some quite obvious things in complicated language which makes people feel clever cos they "get it"

mostly my problem with him and his ilk is that they don't really know what communism is and are getting bucks turning it into some weird academic exercise
TBH I'm pretty sure that its more about the fact that for this new generation of leftists Zizek is saying quite a few things first, and for those who don't read Zizek I would say (and others are more well read than I) I would say that he's introduced me to a variety of leftists concepts which I have accepted to different extents.

Revolution starts with U
10th July 2012, 04:57
Does anyone else think he parts his hair with (only) his middle finger on purpose?

~Spectre
10th July 2012, 05:46
Zizek while writing for Abercrombie & Fitch:


School 2003
P. O. Box 182168, Columbus, OH 43218; [email protected];
1-800-873-7290


"Back to School"
by Slavoj Zizek


Thus means: Forget the stupid spontaneous pleasures of summer sports, of
reading books, watching movies and listening to music. Pull yourself
together and learn sex.

As we know already from Daphnis and Chloe, the late antiquity novel, there
is nothing spontaneous about sex: One has to learn it, one has to be
introduced to it.

The naked couple without a spectacled teacher would be reduced to two clumsy
ignorants unable to perform the act.

A melancholic nostalgia for the good old Victorian days, when it was still a
terrifying transgression if a music teacher seduced the daughter of the
family...

The only successful sexual relationship occurs when the fantasies of the two
partners overlap. If the man fantasizes that making love is like riding a
bike...

And the woman wants to be penetrated by a stud, then what truly goes on
while they make love is that a horse is riding a bike...with a fantasy like
that, who needs a personality?

There can be no friendship between twins: they are too close, so the only
way for each of them to maintain his identity is to liquidate the other. A
friend has to be outside my reach, beyond my grasp. And there can be no
friendship with someone whom I am not ready to betray: A friend is someone I
can betray with love.

A woman intermittently kissing two men: Does this constellation not merely
explicate the fact that, while a man cheats his feminine partner with
another real woman, a woman can cheat a man even if she makes love only with
him, since her pleasure is never fully contained in enjoying him?

The object of desire is hidden behind the thigh but the true cause of desire
is the tattooed cross on the arm. Is it not clear that we really make love
with signs, not with bodies? This is why one has to go to school to learn
sex.

Is the naked couple a stain disturbing the classical beauty, or does it
stand for the authentic bodily reality unmasking the fake of the kitsch
architecture? Neither: They are both fakes.

Movies are right: The romantic dream is in color, the reality of sex is in
black and white. Here, however, school has to teach us another paradoxical
lesson: The intensity of real sex can only take place in black and white.
When we are immersed into love making, the world loses its colors.

If there ever was a happy couple, this is one. The first lesson of love to
be learned at school: Do not look into each other's eyes! Only by ignoring
each other can a couple learn to endure each other and, eventually, to
become aware of the other's proximity.

It is obvious that the couple in front of the window are fantasizing that
someone is observing them through the window! They need that gaze in order
to be in love: They perform their love for that gaze.

The apple in paradise really was a book Eve was reading: What seduced Adam
into sin was the burning curiosity about what is written in the book. This
is the ultimate proof that sex has nothing to do with sin: Man became sinful
the moment he was interested more in what's in the book than in Eve's
gorgeous naked body

The solution is, of course: There was nothing in the book. Eve just
pretended to be immersed into the book to seduce Adam...

In true passion, one does not need a head or brain: The whole body turned in
to a montage. This loss of the body, this dissolution of the body into a
composite of organs, is called happiness.

No way to escape sex -- even in pure mathematics, it will haunt you: How
much energy is released when two bodies hit each other? Or is it that pure
mathematics is much sexier than sex?

Is the girl really dreaming that she is a butterfly? But what if she is a
butterfly dreaming that it is a girl? It is only when her lover is able to
discern the butterfly that is in her more than the girl herself that he will
passionately desire her, that making love to her will not be only
copulation.

The tired anxious gazes of the participants display the question: Was it
okay? Did we perform well?

Another lesson to be learned at school: Not only under our dress are we all
naked -- we are truly naked only under our clothes. If we are simply without
dress, we are not really naked -- there is nothing less erotic than nudism.

Usually from a conservative cultural standpoint, the problem with today's
culture, especially youth culture, is that of ethics, specifically of
standards, limits being blurred. For example, sometimes in the news you
don't even know what is publicity and what is news. That is to say that the
news is turning into a kind of talk show...What do I see? A Utopian vision.
A fugue. A truly modern synthesis

Shit, why not have a cake and eat it too? You can have critical theory and
nudity and enjoy it!