I've been convinced to vote...

[Hexen]

I've been convinced by people that I should vote but I told them voting was worthless because of the two party system but they also said "You should vote for the amendments not just the leaders". Is there anyway to respond to this?

[Ostrinski]

I don't think so. What the hell does that even mean?

[NewLeft]

You don't even get to vote for them..

[WanderingCactus]

Vote republican.

[Hexen]

I don't think so. What the hell does that even mean?

I don't know either, the whole "You should vote for the amendments" part kinda threw me off.


You don't even get to vote for them..

Well if you mean that the bourgeoisie (electoral colleges) get's to choose not the working classes that's what I was also trying to tell them but once again, most people don't have a class conscience.

[roy]

Just call them out on their meaningless bullshit.

[Manic Impressive]

spoil your ballot. write socialism across it.

[Hexen]

Just call them out on their meaningless bullshit.

Like how?

[Ostrinski]

Inform them of their misconception of ideology's function in political matters. It doesn't directly affect policy, it serves to gather support for a policy or opposition to a policy. By voting you're really just furthering someone's career.

[roy]

Like Brospierre said, "vote for amendments" doesn't really mean anything. Just say that.

[Veovis]

I think 'amendments' is supposed to read 'ballot measures.'

[MotherCossack]

god... this is so depressing.
there must be something we can do.....
something rotten is most certainly in the state....
and i think it goes right to the very core of our 'civilised' existance.

[Misanthrope]

I don't care. I just hope you know you don't matter in American politics. The only real people that matter are corporations...

[Danielle Ni Dhighe]

I think 'amendments' is supposed to read 'ballot measures.'
I think so, too. They're about the only thing I might vote on depending on the measure.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Last time I voted, I wrote in the name of my cat. I plan to do the same this year.

[Veovis]

I think so, too. They're about the only thing I might vote on depending on the measure.

I plan on voting for the measures I like, and then write in "Bradley Manning" for everything else.

[Zostrianos]

Show them this video:
xIraCchPDhk

[Anarcho-Brocialist]

Popular vote doesn't even matter. So no one should vote, the electoral college votes for you instead.

[Dunk]

I think I'm going to scrawl REVOLUTION across my next ballot. Or maybe write-in REVOLUTION.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

I think I'm going to scrawl REVOLUTION across my next ballot. Or maybe write-in REVOLUTION.

Fuck that, I want to make a difference, my cat deserves a reasonable percentage, it's time for direction action, everyone write in 'Cortés' for president. I want my cat to get at least more percentage votes then Ron Paul ever did. A vote for Cortés is a vote for 23 hour nap times and free catnip/grass for every man, woman and child.

[MustCrushCapitalism]

I think I'm going to scrawl REVOLUTION across my next ballot. Or maybe write-in REVOLUTION.

Great wait to tell the state you're dying to be under police observation.

[Left Leanings]

spoil your ballot. write socialism across it.


Last time I voted, I wrote in the name of my cat. I plan to do the same this year.

There are usually only three choices in my locality: Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat. Sometimes you get the odd Green Party member, and (for fucks sake) the scumbag British National Party.

I haven't voted in years. Last time I did, I spoiled the ballot paper by drawing a line vertically going through each box, and wrote on in large capital letters VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE.

On a more sinister note, is now compulsory to register to vote in the UK, but not to actually vote itself. The fine for failing to register, is potentially a £1000.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

On a more sinister note, is now compulsory to register to vote in the UK, but not to actually vote itself. The fine for failing to register, is potentially a £1000.

That's bollocks. In the US, you're allowed to write in candidates for as long as I've seen the ballots.

[Anarcho-Brocialist]

Vote republican.

You funny bastard :laugh:

[Manic Impressive]

Great wait to tell the state you're dying to be under police observation.
voting is secret :rolleyes:

[Deicide]

Voting is useless. Unless it's in a local election, but even then it's mostly useless.

We got a skatepark built in my area by voting lib-dems, lol. The other parties would of scrapped the plans for it.

[MotherCossack]

In the name of the wee man!!!!!
Fuck me sideways!
am i glad i do not hail from the U S of bleeding A
No but hang about....
voting here... is meaningless too.
it is just a delusion...... because britain is a much smaller pond it feels like we are less anonomous and have more chance of kicking up a stink over here....
but it aint true.... your pond is bigger but our water is dirtier....
or is it.........
fuck this ....
living in a cesspit stinks!

[MotherCossack]

cos i am fed up wiv doing nothing....
and not being able to do anything...
i'm bored of grumbling and moaning and grumbling...
i'm bored
i'm the chairman of the bored

[SpiritiualMarxist]

Could they be talking about propositions?
It may not be revolutionary but these are one of the few exceptions where legislation is democratic in this system. I'm pretty sure the LGBT community would like marriage rights even if it doesn't lead to a revolutionary movement.

[Trap Queen Voxxy]

Could they be talking about propositions?
It may not be revolutionary but these are one of the few exceptions where legislation is democratic in this system. I'm pretty sure the LGBT community would like marriage rights even if it doesn't lead to a revolutionary movement.

There is no way in hell gay marriage or civil unions are going to happen any time soon. Democrats in America may say a lot of nice things about gays and talk all this shit about civil unions and so on but they're not going to do anything and I say this because the way I see it is, they're going to keep dangling gay marriage over our heads so they can continue to have a solid voting block because that's what matters, blocks. Further, I don't see them wanting to possibly risk losing constituent votes or votes in general from less liberal voters in terms of social/civil rights issues.

[SpiritiualMarxist]

Several individual states already have gay marriage. Wether it will be a national thing is yet to be determined, by which I mean determined by struggle by LGBT community and allies of which there is clearly a movement around it currently.

The question is wether to vote for these propositions that come up. My personal opinion is that I do vote for this because there is literally no downside, I'm not campaigning for people to vote or anything and I'm always gonna be a revolutionary but if you clearly can make a form of oppression better right now, why not do it?

Mind you that I believe that marriage is a scam and a throwback to ownership of your partner but most people don't agree and there is some sentimental value.