View Full Version : dutch cleaners end 2nd strike after 105 days
Sasha
21st April 2012, 22:01
Small reformist wins, huge strides in solidarity and self organisation: http://libcom.org/news/netherlands-cleaners-end-strike-after-105-days-19042012
Ocean Seal
21st April 2012, 22:27
Just out of curiosity how does a union of cleaners prevent scabs from doing their work? Or is it that its difficult to organize scabs for this kind of thing.
Sasha
22nd April 2012, 00:02
Its illegal here for companies to break an organised strike without a judge ruling they can do so. (excluding cops and military, they are not allowed to strike, but they are almost 100% unionized anyways)
Ocean Seal
22nd April 2012, 01:08
Its illegal here for companies to break an organised strike without a judge ruling they can do so. (excluding cops and military, they are not allowed to strike, but they are almost 100% unionized anyways)
Wait, wait, wait. Its illegal in your country for the bosses to break the strike. Its illegal in my country for the workers to even strike.
Stadtsmasher
22nd April 2012, 01:12
Just out of curiosity how does a union of cleaners prevent scabs from doing their work? Or is it that its difficult to organize scabs for this kind of thing.
There are no real ways to prevent scabs from doing their thing other than demostrating as they walk into work or somehow trying to convince them to join the strike.
Sasha
22nd April 2012, 06:49
Wait, wait, wait. Its illegal in your country for the bosses to break the strike. Its illegal in my country for the workers to even strike.
Yup. Don't know how it works exactly, but I believe at an earlier even more massive cleaners strike at the public transport the union went and won a courtcase when the train company got scabs to clean up the mess in the trainstations, believe the result was the scabs had to sort out all the rotting food remains and could clean that away for health and safety reasons but had to dump all the rest back in the station hallways exactly how they found it.
Just signed a general "stage" (short internship in the field you do during your study) contract and in it it said that if a strike took place while there I could not participate (ie get strike funds/picket/etc) but was also not allowed to come in to work let alone used as a scab.
Sasha
22nd April 2012, 06:54
Found an explanation of our strike "law" (no actual law but practice build on juridical jurisprudence): http://www.eurofound.europa.eu/emire/NETHERLANDS/RIGHTTOSTRIKE-NL.htm
Die Neue Zeit
23rd April 2012, 02:03
Small reformist wins, huge strides in solidarity and self organisation: http://libcom.org/news/netherlands-cleaners-end-strike-after-105-days-19042012
Great win, but I don't see this as even a reformist win at all. For there to be even a whiff of actual reformism, there has to be politics. Where's the politics?
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