Ridiculous things your teachers have taught you

[Positivist]

This is a thread for sharing experiences of teachers misteaching any subjects. It can be about misrepresentation of communism, ignorance of recent discoveries accepted amongst the academic world, or just something funny and infactual one of your teachers has or is teaching you.

[Deicide]

Stalin came to Berlin and shot Hitler himself. No Joke. This is from a History teacher.

[Ostrinski]

"school is cool"

[NewLeft]

In communism, we all get paid the same, that's why I don't like communism.

[a rebel]

I had a teacher who refused to teach the evolution chapter in biology because he didn't believe it, we had a substitute for a week

[TheGodlessUtopian]

My 8th grade history teacher came in one day and announced, offhandedly, but still very surprised, that the United States had a communist party. Evidently, despite being the history teacher, she wasn't aware of either the rich class struggle or of the fact that every country has a communist party.

True story.

[Bostana]

My one history teacher said that the Iraq War was in self defense and that Iraq attacked America and helped Osama Bin Laden.

Not a Lie.

[Kronsteen]

Some things teachers told me before I was ten:

* Communism means having one brand of everything in the shops.

* There were no people in Africa 'til white people discovered it. The same for America.

* Three kings followed a star until it was hovering over exactly one stable, while still being light years away.

* It's 'a wonderful thing' when police shoot protesters against political imprisonment,

* In a pyramid-shaped corporation, everyone gets promoted. On merit.

* Suffering makes you 'a better person'.

* You shouldn't complain because there's always some one in a worse situation than you.

* You should eat everything on your plate because children are starving in Africa.

* You should never eat greedily because...children are starving in Africa.

[Nox]

Here's an absolute gem from my history teacher

"If Trotsky would've taken over from Lenin it's likely that we would be living in a Communist world now"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm serious. He said it when we were learning about the Russian Revolution/Cold War, specifically the power struggle after Lenin's death, he said about how Stalin was focused on "socialism in one state" whereas Trotsky wanted to expand, at that point he came out with that monster of a quote.

[Bostana]

Here's an absolute gem from my history teacher

"If Trotsky would've taken over from Lenin it's likely that we would be living in a Communist world now"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Get ready for the endless Trotsky flamewire.

[Positivist]

Here's an absolute gem from my history teacher

"If Trotsky would've taken over from Lenin it's likely that we would be living in a Communist world now"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Atleast he knew who Trotsky was

[ParaRevolutionary]

That Eric Arthur Blair, better known as George Orwell, was an anti Socialist/ Communist.

[gorillafuck]

That Eric Arthur Blair, better known as George Orwell, was an anti Socialist/ Communist.a lot of leftists will also have you believe that

[Drosophila]

That Nazism was a marriage of nationalism and socialism.

[Raúl Duke]

I don't remember...

One thing I remember though was how the text-book in school represented the case about how early white settlers in America "bought" Manhattan for like 13$ (or 13 pounds...or whatever) and it presented this historical anecdote almost in a chauvanistic manner as to demonstrate how stupid/naive the Native Americans were...

Later on, in another book and in college courses, I discovered it was the settlers who were defrauded...The group they negotiated this deal with did not even "own" Manhattan...(they just happened to be passing it by and/or be using the land rather than owning it)the group that did owned the land constantly harassed and attacked the settlers as interlopers. In college, I learned the Native Americans were not as "naive" as school books like to present them, nor a monolithic group. IN fact, they tended to be rather pragmatic in their diplomatic relations with Europeans (who they were eager to make alliances with so they can use them, at least their weapons, to fight against rival American Indian groups) but on their own, and in historical retrospect shortsighted, terms. (i.e. Native Americans weren't quick to view the Europeans as a threat, they tended to court them to gain trade/alliances so to have military/diplomatic advantages against their traditional rivals. Later on, many begin to recognize the possible threat of Europeans and their expansionist ways and try to ally with each other against them).

[The Young Pioneer]

The United States singlehandedly won the second World War for the Allies by its invasion of Normandy, and they with the British were really the only ones with an aversion to Nazism.

...Erm, I'ma just leave this here...

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[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

It's rather what ia Wasn't taught about in school. Never had to learn about german economic history, class struggle in germany, real reasons behind WW1 namely not some typical german nationalism or extra germanic evilness, but Imperialism, never had to learn about the german revolution 1918-1919 besides the "Novemberrevolution" of the glorious SPD leadership:rolleyes:. I Never Once Was Told About Colonialism. I remember finding out about it at around 10 years old, it's really what you weren't taught about that is the problem.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I remember one day we had a substitute in our history class when we were covering the period where everybody was appeasing Hitler. He decided it was a perfect opportunity to tell us we needed war with Iran. And this was years ago mind you. He told us liberals were appeasing Iran just like Chamberlain appeased Hitler, and that we needed conservatives in charge of the country so that they could bomb Iran. He told us if we didn't do this then Iran would attack Israel with it's nuclear weapons and the liberals would just try and appease Iran which would lead to a second holocaust. I was just sitting there like :confused:. So I challenged him, which got me in trouble. I'm glad nobody in that class gave a shit about what the teachers said.

[blake 3:17]

In grade 3 a teacher told us that in Communist China you had to share your toothbrush.

[RedAtheist]

My German teacher seemed to think that Communism (Stalinism) made houses shrink. That was the implication at least, she went on about how small the apartments were in East Germany in order to try to say that the country was an awful place. I wanted to say 'wouldn't they have been built that way to begin with', but I was a coward at the time.

[Krano]

My economics teacher told me that North Korea is a Communist state.

[Yugo45]

In "Democracy" class (yes, we have that subject, ha), there was an assigment to categorise ideologies and forms of governments under "democratic" and "totalitarian".

Well, you can probably see where this is going. As expected, the right answer was that Communism was not democratic. That didn't shock me, but what did was this:

Appereantly, monarchy is "sometimes totalitarian, but a lot of times also democratic"

You learn something new every day.

[honest john's firing squad]

Appereantly, monarchy is "sometimes totalitarian, but a lot of times also democratic"
I'm fairly sure this is referring to the "constitutional monarchies" (listed here: en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Constitutional_monarchy#List_of_current_reigning_m onarchies), which, with the exception of the UAE and Tonga and the arguable (?) exception of others such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Monaco and Swaziland, are all "functioning" bourgeois democracies. I don't think there's anything wrong with the statement you quoted at all, except for my rejection of 'totalitarian' as a particularly meaningful term.

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Communism and Nazism is the same.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

My German teacher seemed to think that Communism (Stalinism) made houses shrink. That was the implication at least, she went on about how small the apartments were in East Germany in order to try to say that the country was an awful place. I wanted to say 'wouldn't they have been built that way to begin with', but I was a coward at the time.

DDR housing standards had pretty generous sizes for new built flats from the mid-late 60's onwards.

[Yugo45]

I'm fairly sure this is referring to the "constitutional monarchies" (listed here: en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Constitutional_monarchy#List_of_current_reigning_m onarchies), which, with the exception of the UAE and Tonga and the arguable (?) exception of others such as Kuwait, Bahrain, Monaco and Swaziland, are all "functioning" bourgeois democracies. I don't think there's anything wrong with the statement you quoted at all, except for my rejection of 'totalitarian' as a particularly meaningful term.

Saying communism is totalitarian while monarchy is democratic is wrong.. Or maybe I'm on the wrong forum?

[honest john's firing squad]

Saying communism is totalitarian while monarchy is democratic is wrong.. Or maybe I'm on the wrong forum?
Read carefully. I quoted only a specific portion of your post, and only addressed the fallacy that monarchy is wholly incompatible with bourgeois democracy.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

My history teacher said that portugal became a democratic country after the revolution of 25 april 1974.
I always laugh when she says that a certain country is democratic.
She diceded to have us right a paper that would show the differences between democratic portugal and totalitarian portugal, I answered:
"Don't you mean the diferences between capitalist and fascist portugal?":laugh:
My science teacher said anarchy was chaos:laugh:

[Yugo45]

Read carefully. I quoted only a specific portion of your post, and only addressed the fallacy that monarchy is wholly incompatible with bourgeois democracy.

Exactly lol. You only quoted a portion of my post, missing the point.

The point was, I found it ridiculous that my teacher thought communism is totalitarian while monarchy is democratic.

[ВАЛТЕР]

In the US I had a teacher try to convince me that Yugoslavia was part of the Warsaw Pact. She was fully aware that I was from there. :rolleyes:

I didn't quit harassing her about it until I got told to leave the classroom. As I was leaving the class I looked at everyone and said "just so you know she is a liar."

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Animal Farm. No so much the book itself, but the way the curriculum interpret's what it means.

[Geiseric]

Here's an absolute gem from my history teacher

"If Trotsky would've taken over from Lenin it's likely that we would be living in a Communist world now"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm serious. He said it when we were learning about the Russian Revolution/Cold War, specifically the power struggle after Lenin's death, he said about how Stalin was focused on "socialism in one state" whereas Trotsky wanted to expand, at that point he came out with that monster of a quote.

Don't you know that Stalinists shot Anarchists in Spain while the trotskyists were more or less in the same bloc as the Anarchists? That principle would be expanded worldwide, as in united fronts, and we would be communist at this point. If the Bureaucracy never did the purges and chose fucked up politics for the world communist parties, we would be Communist now.

[Desperado]

Don't you know that Stalinists shot Anarchists in Spain while the trotskyists were more or less in the same bloc as the Anarchists? That principle would be expanded worldwide, as in united fronts, and we would be communist at this point. If the Bureaucracy never did the purges and chose fucked up politics for the world communist parties, we would be Communist now.

Don't you know that Marx said great figures aren't the driving force of history and it's the law of value and class struggle that matter?

[PC LOAD LETTER]

"If you smoke weed you will die"

"If you take LSD you will think you can fly and jump off of a building"

Both circa 6th grade.

[Left Leanings]

It was pure ages ago. But when some of us were about to leave school at 16, a trade union official came to address the fifth-form year assembly.

He said that school and the workplace, were some of the most undemocratic places we would experience in our lives. One teacher called out from the back and took issue with him. You know the sort of thing, errr excuse me, but school is democratic blah-di-blah. She thought she was dead cool, but she could be a right nasty piece as well.

The trade union guy got into an argument with her, and naturally, ripped her to shreds. He did so quite easily, cos being a TU chap, he knew just how to please the crowd hehe. And as 16 year old boys and girls, we were only too fucking delighted to be pleased. We was all pissing our sides and shouting out. Never was a teacher so embarrassed.

What got to me though, is that afterwards, the form tutor (not the same teacher, a bloke) was talking to us as a class, not a school year. Some of us were saying how good it had been. He said the TU official was just a rabble rouser, and he had appealed to the undesirable and rebellious element among us. Which, basically, was all of us haha.

He said trade unions would make our working lives harder, and stop us being good workers by causing trouble for people in authority. He was one boring bastard, I know that.

Of cos TU officials often serve their own interests, and are a privilieged layer of peeps between the workers and the bosses.

But still, we were fed some shite that day :laugh:

[Brosa Luxemburg]

You should vote because it makes a difference.

:laugh:

[Left Leanings]

You should vote because it makes a difference.

:laugh:

Now that's an absolute cracker that one. A right load of rubbish hehe :laugh:

[Pretty Flaco]

I had a sub this week who told us that the hype over "bullying" was bullshit because there would always be "alphadogs" and that there's nothing you could do about it. i told him "well that's a load of bullshit." and then he kicked me out and i missed the beginning to A Raisin In The Sun

[Nox]

In the US I had a teacher try to convince me that Yugoslavia was part of the Warsaw Pact. She was fully aware that I was from there. :rolleyes:

I didn't quit harassing her about it until I got told to leave the classroom. As I was leaving the class I looked at everyone and said "just so you know she is a liar."

Lol. Did you have a Serbian accent at that time?

[Nox]

"alphadogs"

Fucking brilliant word.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Lol. Did you have a Serbian accent at that time?

I have a slight accent when I speak, but it isn't very noticeable. I only get a really noticeable accent when I get upset about something. So the more she pushed the issue the thicker my accent got. :laugh:

[Positivist]

So in business today we learned that "some people will choose to have more money so they will need bigger bank accounts while other people will want less money and will want smaller bank accounts"...
... uh.

[Leonid Brozhnev]

My business studies teacher advocated the systematic killing of rich people and routinely referred to himself 'El Presidente'. I always looked forward to business studies.

[Ocean Seal]

Me: Why don't we learn about the black Panthers for the Civil Rights movement?
Teach:Good question, moving on...

Teach: So Stalin was Hitlers ally.
Me: No he wasn't.
Teach: There was a treaty.
Me: A non-aggression pact.
Teach: Which is an alliance.
Me: So when Stalin tried to rally support to defend the Czech Republic and the Western powers didn't join, were they Hitler's allies?
Teach: Obviously not, they didn't have it written in paper. You're digging yourself into a hole.

Teach: So communism is far left, and socialism is far right.

Teach: Basically America liberated Europe while the Soviet Union made sure to continue Nazi death camps aimed at Jews in the East.

Douchebag Ass Kisser: Do you know that *my name* is a communist?
Teach: Really? For mother Russia.

[Ocean Seal]

My favorite one, I just remembered.

People who don't affiliate with either the Democratic or Republican parties are stupid and ignorant of politics.

[Ocean Seal]

Stalin came to Berlin and shot Hitler himself. No Joke. This is from a History teacher.
How awesome would that have been? :D

Zhukov: But Stalin, you can't just march into Berlin while the Nazi army still has control of the city and kill their idolated fuhrer.

Stalin:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1thxiQ0MR1qbfqke.jpg

[Workers-Control-Over-Prod]

My German teacher seemed to think that Communism (Stalinism) made houses shrink. That was the implication at least, she went on about how small the apartments were in East Germany in order to try to say that the country was an awful place. I wanted to say 'wouldn't they have been built that way to begin with', but I was a coward at the time.

That's ridiculous. The East had some of the highest housing standards in all of Europe, therfore the world while in West Germany there were and are homeless. East Germany subsidized housing and made large apartments in the city available for working class people, and land homes for farmers; all really cheap.

[seventeethdecember2016]

I remember in first grade my teacher told me Santa Claus didn't exist. I started a real riot that day.


On a serious note, I've heard:
Karl Marx was the creator of Communism.
Karl Marx was Russian.
They pretty much explained Socialism as Keynesianism.
Engels didn't contribute to Communist thought.
Influence from the US destroyed the Soviet Union, thus creating the Russian Federation- a Federation just like us.
Karl Marx wanted a genocide of the Bourgeoisie.
Stalin was Russian.
Stalin was a Czarist secret agent.
Stalin murdered 60 million people, while Mao murdered 120 million.
Stalin wanted to conquer the US and Europe.
Communism can't exist because Human Nature won't allow it.
There are just a few more Communist countries left. China has left the ideology while North Korea seems to be the last one.
Reagan was a good guy!
Hitler was a Socialist.

[Landsharks eat metal]

Here are the things I was told/somehow got to understand about communism when I was in high school. (All of this contradictory shit confused the hell out of me... and this is all coming from one teacher):
-Socialism is impure communism
-Communism is like socialism except there's a revolution involved
-Socialism is when the government oversees production, and communism is when the government controls production.
-"Command economy". The way this was explained I understood it as you can only buy government branded stuff at the grocery store, and you spend all day waiting in line just to get in and you have to just hope they don't run out first
-The New Deal was totally socialism.
-Much of Western Europe is socialist now.
-The Soviet Union was a perfect example of how communism is supposed to work.
-Better dead than red/the only good commie is a dead commie. (My teacher still believed that... and he was the one who inspired me to look into communism because we disagreed on so much other crap :))

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I got kicked out of school my freshmen year and had to go to a secondary school where all the "bad kids" went which was basically a re-education camp. Like literally they told us that actual education was secondary to trying to make us "fit for society", so obviously we were taught a lot of bullshit. Like one of the things pumped into our brains every day before we left from one of our classes was "Never question a person in authority, even if you think they're wrong". Really? And the right-wing complains about indoctrination! Good thing none of us cared about this kind of shit anyways.

[roy]

- russia is a communist country and its symbol is the hammer and circle (this was in 2010)
- republic = communist
- communism is very similar to fascism and it doesn't make sense that they're fighting all the time
- we have to protect our way of life from foreign elements b/c we are culturally superior

i can't think of anything that isn't political in some way. i guess that's what stands out, apart from the fact that a lot of teachers have trouble with spelling and grammar (especially english teachers)

[Nox]

Don't you know that Stalinists shot Anarchists in Spain while the trotskyists were more or less in the same bloc as the Anarchists? That principle would be expanded worldwide, as in united fronts, and we would be communist at this point. If the Bureaucracy never did the purges and chose fucked up politics for the world communist parties, we would be Communist now.

lolkronstadt

[OnlyCommunistYouKnow]

Just the normal stuff, like communism means the government owns everything.
Oh, my teacher also said communism was the exact same as fascism.

[ColonelCossack]

That sand is a liquid because you can pour it.

[ColonelCossack]

I'm so glad I don't have the same teachers as some of you guys because I would probably just walk out of the classes.

one of my friends has a geography teacher who lived in the US for a couple of years, and they said that America doesn't have a class system. RAAAAAAAGE

[Drosophila]

China has 20 billion people in it, and has the highest known population.

[Left Leanings]

I'm so glad I don't have the same teachers as some of you guys because I would probably just walk out of the classes.

one of my friends has a geography teacher who lived in the US for a couple of years, and they said that America doesn't have a class system. RAAAAAAAGE

That really is a gem :laugh:

[Offbeat]

lolkronstadt
Kronstadt was nothing to do with the Spanish Civil War.

[Prometeo liberado]

Stalin came to Berlin and shot Hitler himself. No Joke. This is from a History teacher.

How is that ridiculous?

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

1. Engels was a businessman and co-owned a mill, thus he was a bad communist.

2. Over everything else, communists want the equal distribution of wealth all over the world.

3. Communism goes against the all powerful law of eternal scarcity.

4. (THE FUNNIEST ONE) CUBA AND NORTH KOREA ARE THE ONLY NATIONS AS OF NOW ON THE PATH TO COMMUNISM! :laugh:

[Left Leanings]

1. Engels was a businessman and co-owned a mill, thus he was a bad communist.

2. Over everything else, communists want the equal distribution of wealth all over the world.

3. Communism goes against the all powerful law of eternal scarcity.

4. (THE FUNNIEST ONE) CUBA AND NORTH KOREA ARE THE ONLY NATIONS AS OF NOW ON THE PATH TO COMMUNISM! :laugh:

Are you sure they're teachers, bro? Cos to me, they sound more like comedians :laugh:

Seriously, I don't know how you put up with it. They're as thick as fuck aren't they.

[Nox]

Kronstadt was nothing to do with the Spanish Civil War.

I know but any reference to Trotsky & Anarchists is worthy of a counter-reference to Kronstadt.

[The Jay]

In college I took an Army Leadership course and when we were going over cartography and the different types on North the Major instructing us said that the reason there was a magnetic North was due to a massive iron ore deposit on the North Pole, true story.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Here is his economic theory that he states as undeniable fact:



Mr. BLEEP
World History & Cultures
The Six Social Institutions
Topic: Economics
Economics: The Voodoo Science

The fundamental fact of human existence is scarcity. The governing principle in
economics is the Law of Scarcity, which states that there is not enough of everything to
go around. The economic pie is finite. All resources needed to satisfy human needs and
wants are in short supply. Why? Because human wants and needs are unlimited. There
will never be enough to go around equally to everyone. Economics is the science that
deals with the allocation of scarce resources. It helps us to efficiently distribute the
resources available. The objective of economics is to provide the greatest good to the
greatest number of people. As a social institution it provides for the material support of
humanity. Economics allocates scarce resources for the good of all!
In particular, economics deals with wealth. It is important to realize that wealth is
not the same thing as money. In fact, money is nothing more than a tool, like a hammer
or a nail. It is a medium of exchange. Wealth represents those things which directly
satisfy human wants and needs.
Economics is one of the most complex disciplines on earth. It uses complex
mathematical models, statistics and reams of data to try to explain the complex
interactions of human beings as they conduct business in the marketplace. As a science it
is so complex that nobody really understands completely how it works. Economists
(people who study economics) generally can explain why some event occurred, but they
are at a loss to predict the future. In fact, they disagree generally on exactly what is
happening in the market at the present! Because of its complexity and relative
incomprehensibility, Economics has been nicknamed “the voodoo science”.
There are two types of economics. Macroeconomics deals with the national or
world economy. It seeks to rationalize the production and distribution of goods on a
national level and provide for the needs of a large number of people. Microeconomics in
contrast deals with the economics of a small group of people, home economics (family)
or personal finance (individual). We will be dealing primarily with Macroeconomics in
this unit.
There are 8 goals that Economics seeks to achieve. In real terms these goals will
never be completely met. But they are what economists are aiming to achieve:
1. Economic Growth- economic growth every year
2. Full Employment- everyone who wants a job has one
3. Economic Efficiency- everything that is produced is bought at just the
right price
4. Price Stability—no inflation or deflation
5. Equal Income Distribution—everyone has an equal claim to what the
economy produces, an equal income
6. Economic Security—no poverty or deprivation
7. Balance of Trade—all trade between nations will be of equal value
8. Economic Freedom—freedom to buy sell or trade in the marketplace
without government interference
The Basic Economic Model
There is a basic economic model that governs every human productive enterprise.
All businesses follow this model. Learn the social science terms and their meanings:
Land- natural resources, products of the Earth
Labor- human energy and talents necessary for the production of wealth
Capital- means of production (machinery)
Rent- payment for natural resources
What is Money?
Money is not wealth. Money is a medium of exchange, a tool that allows for the
efficient transacting of business, the exchange of goods and services that provide for the
production and distribution of wealth to humanity. Literally then, money itself is
worthless without something to buy! Anything we commonly agree on as a medium of
exchange can be money. We use paper currency and coinage. Some societies use
seashells and rocks!
There are societies on earth that do not use money. They use barter instead. This
is the direct exchange of good for good. Although it can work, in complex economies it is
too inefficient to be used. Barter is typically found only in more primitive economies.
What is Wealth?
Wealth represents those things that directly satisfy human wants and needs. Food,
clothing, shelter, all are considered wealth. We can use those goods directly to provide for our needs. Money by itself would not suffice. Hence wealth represents tangible goods
we require to thrive and survive!
The Laws of Supply and Demand
A market is where goods and services are bought, sold and traded. It is at the heart
of all economic activity. Three elements are essential to the operation of the market. (1),
supply, which represents the amount of available product for sale, (2), demand, which
represents the desire on the part of consumers for the product and (3) price, the
consideration given for the product. These three elements always seek equilibrium, they
always work in harmony with each other.
There are two well-known laws that operate in the free marketplace and help to
determine the free flow of goods and services from producers to consumers. These laws
regulate quantity, price and the general level of trade. The Law of Demand states that as
the price of a commodity falls, the demand will rise. Over time as demand continues to
rise and supply of a commodity becomes short, prices will rise. The Law of Supply
states that as the price of a good rises, supply also will rise. Eventually, as supply rises it
will overtake demand and a surplus will be created, causing producers to cut prices in
order to sell off the surplus. Notice that both laws in the long run tend to lead to a certain
balance in the marketplace between supply and demand. This balance is called
equilibrium, the state where enough goods are produced at just the right price to satisfy
everyone. The free market is always moving towards equilibrium.
Two Competing Economic Systems: Capitalism and Communism
There are two major competing economic systems in the world that reflect
distinctly different philosophies and goals. These two systems are Capitalism and
Communism. They represent diametrically opposed economic positions.
Capitalism
The Father of Capitalism was a Scotsman by the name of Adam Smith. Smith
studied the macroeconomics of the major European states and published a book outlining
his findings in 1776 called “Wealth of Nations”. He observed that when people interact
in a free market without any government interference, the market regulates itself as
though guided by an “invisible hand”. The invisible hand of self-interest will maximize
the benefits to all of the marketplace, leading to equilibrium and perfect harmony. What
happens is that people will always act in their own self-interest. In a free market they
must compete with others. This lowers prices, increases production and spurs creativity,
thereby creating more wealth. This competition literally is the engine that causes
capitalism to work. Without it capitalism is impossible. The key to maintaining this
competition is no government interference of any kind.
This kind of free market capitalism is called laissez-faire (“leave well enough
alone”) capitalism. It is typified by no rules, no interference, no manipulation by government. The best example of pure laissez-faire capitalism today is the common flea
market. There, in a free environment, buyers and sellers negotiate price and conduct
business among themselves without any regulation.
The United States has had laissez-faire capitalism in the past, but not today. As a
matter of social policy the United States government interferes with the operation of the
market in order to assure certain protections and provide for certain policy outcomes.
Today we have a mixed economy.
Capitalism typically leads to high production and extremes of rich and poor.
Although it is extremely efficient in the production aspect of economics, it is not very
efficient on the consumption side. Capitalism acknowledges the fact that there will be
great inequality in terms of distribution of wealth.
There is a fatal flaw to Capitalism that will doom it. If competition is the engine
that makes capitalism run, then it must be understood that at some point in the future
there will only be one best competitor left. When that happens you have a monopoly and
competition disappears. When competition disappears, capitalism is effectively
destroyed. Hence when capitalism operates the way it is supposed to it destroys itself!
Communism
The Father of Communism was a man named Karl Marx, who wrote the blueprint
for the communist movement in 1848, The Communist Manifesto. In the manifesto Marx
was reacting to the Industrial Revolution and the economics excesses of the period, which
were causing distress among the hordes of working poor and unemployed. Marx argued
that the history of man was dominated by class struggle in a perpetual economic conflict.
Marx prophesied that economics was at the root of all human endeavors and therefore
when he discussed his ideas, they were in economic terms.
In the Marxist system there is no free market. Instead there is a command
economy, where the government decides what will be produced at what price and then
proceeds to distribute the product on an equal basis. The goal of the system is to stop
exploitation and provide absolute economic equality to all and a measure of social justice.
The idea behind the system was succinctly stated by Marx, “from each according to his
ability, to each according to his need.” The ideas is that each person would do the work
that they do the best, that suits their talents. Then, from what was produced, each worker
would take only what they need, leaving the rest for others. This would eliminate both
extreme wealth and poverty, providing for economic and social equality. Hence, there
would be no unemployment, no poverty, no want, all would live in a state of harmony in
a socialist utopia.
The fatal flaw in Communism is that it ignores the Law of Scarcity. There is not
enough to go around and there never will be! Hence Communism is doomed to failure
from the outset. No amount of tinkering with the system will change this fact. Today only
Cuba and North Korea are communist. In all other formerly communist areas the people
have converted to capitalism. Macroeconomic Measurements
How do we know what is going on with the economy? We measure it.
Economists use specific tools to describe and explain economic phenomena.
Gross National Product (GNP) is the sum of all goods and services produced in one
year. This tells us how rich a country is. Per Capita GNP is the same figure divided by
the number of people in a country. This tells us how wealthy the people are.
Inflation is a general rise in the level of prices. Deflation is a general fall in the level of
prices
Unemployment Index—percentage of able-bodied population unable to find a job.
The Business Cycle
All economies go through the business cycle, a continuing cycle of expansion and
contraction in the level of economic activity. There is perpetual movement between the
stages of the business cycle. The stages are as follows:
1. Recession- a slowdown in business activity
2. Depression- a contraction in economic activity
3. Recovery- an increase in the level of economic activity
4. Prosperity- full employment, stable prices, ample wealth
The business cycle is immutable and unchanging. Although some economists
foolishly state that we have currently defeated the business cycle, do not believe it.
Similar claims have been made in the past and all have been equally as untrue.
Economics and Life
Economics is at the root of everything we do. All of our actions are rooted in
economic self-interest, all of our energies go into production and everyday we are part of
the consumer society. It is impossible to get away from economics. Wherever there are
human beings living and working together in any organized fashion, you will find
economics.


At least he is a lot more correct than most other teachers. The other ones are even worse. He actually read Marx, but just misunderstood him and leaned more to capitalist propaganda.

Unfortunately, I cannot find his "Communism" PowerPoint Presentation. That is where all the lolz really are.

[Pretty Flaco]

"cursive writing is very relevant!"

[MustCrushCapitalism]

What I hate the most is the constant use of "we". "We like Israel", "we don't like the communists", "we support capitalism internationally".

-Socialism is the economic equivilant of dictatorship
-France is a constitutional monarchy (I respond - "Oh? Who's Nicholas Sarkozy then?" "Stop being rude")
-Stalin was Russian, as were all soviet leaders (I respond - "He was Georgian." "No, he wasn't, he was born in Russia.")
-Deng Xiaoping created democracy in China
-Deng Xiaoping was forcibly removed as Chairman of the CPC
-China has the world's largest nuclear stockpile
-Chiang Kai Shek created democracy in Taiwan
-South Korea was always democratic from the Korean war onwards
-South Vietnam had support of the Vietnamese people
-The US spoke out against Pol Pot
-Cambodia was the "most communist" nation to exist
-Hitler was a Marxist
-Palestinians are now living comfortably in other Muslim countries
-Hugo Chavez is a dictator
-Salvador Allende was a dictator
-Marxism has been discredited completely
-The US is internationally known for its amazing social mobility where anyone can make it if they work hard

Yay for propaganda.

[Zealot]

- Liberal democracy is the best thing on earth, everything else is bad bad bad.

- The Greeks invented democracy not because of any material forces or a surplus value but because they were just so damn great.

- The reason other countries don't have human rights is because this might be a purely western concept hard for other cultures to adopt.

- The Soviet Union had true Communism and the reason it collapsed was because Communism is so terrible in practice. Many people of the former Soviet Union are living in poverty but that's OKAY because this is to be expected after privatisation and when the state is rebuilding itself.

That is a basic summary of my University-level political science classes.

[Left Leanings]

- The Soviet Union had true Communism and the reason it collapsed was because Communism is so terrible in practice. Many people of the former Soviet Union are living in poverty but that's OKAY because this is to be expected after privatisation and when the state is rebuilding itself.

That is a basic summary of my University-level political science classes.

That post right there, reminds me of a guy who ran the tutorials for the Urban Government course, in my final year.

He was a Maggie Thatcher fan through and through, and the most boring right-wing nob you could ever hope to meet.

One student missed several sessions cos he was ill. The tutor made him go to the doctor for a sick note, to justify his absence, otherwise he would report him to the Senate.

He used to keep a register too. Very few lecturers could be arsed with that shit. If you missed two tutorials in a row, technically he had grounds to report you for non-attendance.

I used to attend one session, skip the next, then attend, then skip...

He pulled me about it one day, saying there's a pattern developing here. I said there wasn't. He said, yes there is, it's a fact...

The boring bastard.

[Agathor]

Oddly the strangest experience I had was with a very intelligent and left wing English Lit teacher, and at a private school. She is very sympathetic to Leninism, but also a fan of George Orwell, which she reconciles by teaching that 1984 had nothing to do with Stalinism.

Double plus comical.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

"cursive writing is very relevant!"

Interestingly enough cursive is no longer being taught at my local elementary school.So whoever said it as relevant needs to do some thinking in regards to communications.lol

[Franz Fanonipants]

as a teacher mostly i just try to stick to teaching the youth about the white devil and how to hold him accountable

[Franz Fanonipants]

seriously though most of you dummies aren't educators and most of this thread basically seems like an attempt to show off how much better you dummies are than the poor bastards who are pumped out of educational institutions to teach you dummies

you're all plenty dumb

[gorillafuck]

lolkronstadtyes krondstadt was quite the incident in the spanish civil war


seriously though most of you dummies aren't educators and most of this thread basically seems like an attempt to show off how much better you dummies are than the poor bastards who are pumped out of educational institutions to teach you dummies

you're all plenty dumbfranz fanonipants you're getting a bit boring

[Franz Fanonipants]

ridiculous things i have heard from my students:

- *****es like it when you treat them rough
- democracy today is really important to listen to
- taxes are theft!

[gorillafuck]

I'm pretty sure my current history teacher actually has a favorable view of Ho Chi Minh

[Franz Fanonipants]

franz fanonipants you're getting a bit boring

dummies

[Left Leanings]

seriously though most of you dummies aren't educators and most of this thread basically seems like an attempt to show off how much better you dummies are than the poor bastards who are pumped out of educational institutions to teach you dummies

you're all plenty dumb

As one of the dumb educators and poor bastards, pumped out of the said educational institutions, perhaps you should place in detention :rolleyes:

[TheGodlessUtopian]

ridiculous things i have heard from my students:

- *****es like it when you treat them rough
- democracy today is really important to listen to
- taxes are theft!

I think then we can agree that both reactionary teachers and students have some whacked out views on things. Kinda old news.

[Franz Fanonipants]

As one of the dumb educators and poor bastards, pumped out of the said educational institutions, perhaps you should place in detention :rolleyes:

i don't even

[Left Leanings]

yes krondstadt was quite the incident in the spanish civil war

franz fanonipants you're getting a bit boring

What do you mean 'getting a bit boring'? He got there a fuck of a long time ago...:lol:

[Franz Fanonipants]

I think then we can agree that both reactionary teachers and students have some whacked out views on things. Kinda old news.

but yet there's still a huge thread about it

[TheGodlessUtopian]

but yet there's still a huge thread about it

True, the only way to balance it out is to make a separate thread about stupid things students have said.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

but yet there's still a huge thread about it

It's just like all the old Stalin/whatever threads. They never get old, keep on coming, again and again. Seems they'll never stop.

[Railyon]

My biology teachers taught me there are only two genders.

SHOCKER

[TheGodlessUtopian]

My biology teachers taught me there are only two genders.

SHOCKER

Especially since there can be as many genders as society deems is neccesary (gender, after all, is different than one's sex).I find it interesting how some cultures do, in fact, have a third gender.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

My biology teachers taught me there are only two genders.

SHOCKER

What did she teach you about sexes?

[Railyon]

Especially since there can be as many genders as society deems is neccesary (gender, after all, is different than one's sex).I find it interesting how some cultures do, in fact, have a third gender.
This stuff always makes me think of the Situationists with the whole reproduction of ideology thing, can't stop thinking about that when watching movies for example - The Muppet Movie (1979) would seem absolutely outlandish in a communist society.


What did she teach you about sexes?
No distinction there - 2, men and women. Maybe the hip teachers started introducing transgender concepts already, dunno...

[Fawkes]

My 4th grade music teacher told me I was "tone deaf".


1. What the fuck kind of a thing is that to say to a 10 year old?

2. A few years later I started playing music and haven't stopped since and, not to be arrogant, but I think I'm pretty good at it.

Fuck him

[Os Cangaceiros]

When I was a little kid I was told that people in Christopher Columbus' time thought that the world was flat.

It still seems to be a somewhat common myth in popular culture, but it's totally false.

[Ele'ill]

"you have plenty of time to figure out what you want to do with your life"

[Railyon]

One of my history teachers taught me Hitler's antisemitism stemmed from unrequited love.

He was in love with a jewish girl but too shy to tell her. When he went to fess up to her, he saw her with her new jewish boyfriend. Rage was had.

I think the story is totally ridiculous so I'm posting it here.

PS: The sad part is, it's hip for right wing people to complain about "stupid foreigners taking our wimenzz". But then they also lapse into the whole "unintegrated stupid foreigners only keep their wimminzz to themselves". Really now... what is it? Make up your mind people... I get the feeling the people who spout that bullshit are middle class white male (duh) basement dwellers.

[Bolshevik_Guerilla_1917]

" In communism you have brown sweatshirt, brown sweatshirt, brown sweatshirt" etc. he said that to each student.

[Bronco]

When I was a little kid I was told that people in Christopher Columbus' time thought that the world was flat.

It still seems to be a somewhat common myth in popular culture, but it's totally false.

Ha same here, it was only this year when I got to University that I was told that it was just a myth, and I was even talking to my friend recently who was insisting that it was true. I think the actual disagreement at the time was over the size of the world, not whether Columbus would sail off the edge of it or not

[Yuppie Grinder]

I like how I've had to do a unit on the holocaust at least once a year, every year since the 2nd grade. Please teach me something new.

[Yuppie Grinder]

My bleeding-heart liberal English teacher who had the worst case of white-guilt I've ever seen explained the difference between different economic systems this way:
"Let's say you're a businessman and you own three cows. In democracy, you get to keep all your cows, in socialism you get to keep 2 or 1 of your cows, and in communism the government takes away all your cows".

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Ha same here, it was only this year when I got to University that I was told that it was just a myth, and I was even talking to my friend recently who was insisting that it was true. I think the actual disagreement at the time was over the size of the world, not whether Columbus would sail off the edge of it or not

Wait that's a myth? I can't trust school anymore.

[TheRedAnarchist23]

My bleeding-heart liberal English teacher who had the worst case of white-guilt I've ever seen explained the difference between different economic systems this way:
"Let's say you're a businessman and you own three cows. In democracy, you get to keep all your cows, in socialism you get to keep 2 or 1 of your cows, and in communism the government takes away all your cows".

WOT??:confused::confused:

[TheRedAnarchist23]

Today my history teacher said there are only two political parties in the USA: the republicans and the democrats.

[Vyacheslav Brolotov]

Today my history teacher said there are only two political parties in the USA: the republicans and the democrats.

Basically, that's true. Those are the only two parties with any real power.

[ColonelCossack]

-Chiang Kai Shek created democracy in Taiwan

-

DA FOK

I hate this life.

[LeftAtheist]

An IT teacher was once covering a GSCE biology lesson of mine, but somehow managed go into a bizzare rant about how the moon landing was faked. Her reasoning for this, I kid you not, was: "how could they have gone to the moon when they didn't even have colour television?". I was absolutely astounded, but pointed out to her that a) the technologies involved are unrelated and b) they did have colour television anyway, the moon landing being in 1969; colour television had existed for at least 15 years. She didn't seem to have any comeback to that.

My A-Level history teacher (teaching us the Soviet Union 1924-53) referred to the Bolshevik newspaper as "Pravada" until I corrected her and also pronounced "Dzerzhinsky" as "Deh-zhur-in-ski".

[homegrown terror]

"henry david thoreau was a dangerous troublemaker, and i'm only teaching Walden and Civil Disobedience because it's part of the curriculum. before you get any funny ideas, you should know that he recanted everything on his deathbed, and begged god to forgive him for the poison his pen created"

-a paraphrasing of my 8th grade english teacher

"i hate these commercials that say 'please drink responsibly.' might as well say 'please shoot heroin responsibly' if you drink, you're an alcoholic. if you drink once and then stop, you're an alcoholic who's in remission."

-word for word, from my junior year history teacher

"cortez came to mexico and, after a few xenophobes were put in their place, engaged in a peaceful trade relationship with the aztec nation"

-freshman year spanish teacher

"americans will always succeed, because we have freedom as our fuel, and god as our guide"

-paraphrasing of almost every history/social studies teacher i've ever had

"communism only ever works if you're viewing it through the eyes of the dictator"

-same junior-year history teacher as above

(after seeing a circle-a on a notebook of mine) "you like anarchy, huh? why don't you go to somalia and see how you like it!"

-7th grade homeroom teacher

"if you vote for anyone but george w. bush, then you've had not listened to a word i've taught you"

-senior year government teacher

[Left Leanings]

"henry david thoreau was a dangerous troublemaker, and i'm only teaching Walden and Civil Disobedience because it's part of the curriculum. before you get any funny ideas, you should know that he recanted everything on his deathbed, and begged god to forgive him for the poison his pen created"

-a paraphrasing of my 8th grade english teacher

"i hate these commercials that say 'please drink responsibly.' might as well say 'please shoot heroin responsibly' if you drink, you're an alcoholic. if you drink once and then stop, you're an alcoholic who's in remission."

-word for word, from my junior year history teacher

"cortez came to mexico and, after a few xenophobes were put in their place, engaged in a peaceful trade relationship with the aztec nation"

-freshman year spanish teacher

"americans will always succeed, because we have freedom as our fuel, and god as our guide"

-paraphrasing of almost every history/social studies teacher i've ever had

"communism only ever works if you're viewing it through the eyes of the dictator"

-same junior-year history teacher as above

(after seeing a circle-a on a notebook of mine) "you like anarchy, huh? why don't you go to somalia and see how you like it!"

-7th grade homeroom teacher

"if you vote for anyone but george w. bush, then you've had not listened to a word i've taught you"

-senior year government teacher

I'm really fucking glad I never went to your school, comrade, cos the nobs would have done my head in :star:

[Azraella]

My parents taught me that liberalism is fucking awesome guys. (I was homeschooled)

[PC LOAD LETTER]

My parents taught me that liberalism is fucking awesome guys. (I was homeschooled)
As in Austrian School shit?

Seriously?

Are your parents oil barons?

[MotherCossack]

my daughter came home today and said;

"that stupid supply teacher told us that elephants are extinct!"
i mean.... really!

[Invader Zim]

My history teacher once said that the Yalta Conference was in 1944. He was like a whole two months out. I mean, like, really?

Nah, they were actually pretty good. I don't really recall any egregious errors.

[Althusser]

Junior Year US History:

THE COLD WAR

Communism vs. Democracy (capitalism)


That was actually written on the board. I tried to defend communism, but teacher was a Reaganite shit-for-brains.

She also said, Chaing Kai Shek was backed by the US because he defended democracy in China.

Also, The Vietnam War was so terrible for the US soldiers and the south vietnamese because Ho Chi Minh and the North Vietnamese were using Agent Orange and napalm on the poor American troops.

I gave her the biggest "are you fucking kidding me" face.

[Prometeo liberado]

In history when I was 15 we had to color black and white pictures of Marx, Stalin and Lenin to look like clowns. When I refused and said that "these are important people to me just like Lincoln and Washington are to you" he said, "yah, but they're clowns".:confused:

[Brosa Luxemburg]

In history when I was 15 we had to color black and white pictures of Marx, Stalin and Lenin to look like clowns. When I refused and said that "these are important people to me just like Lincoln and Washington are to you" he said, "yah, but they're clowns".:confused:

They made you color in school when you were 15? Wow!

[Althusser]

Here's an absolute gem from my history teacher

"If Trotsky would've taken over from Lenin it's likely that we would be living in a Communist world now"

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

I'm serious. He said it when we were learning about the Russian Revolution/Cold War, specifically the power struggle after Lenin's death, he said about how Stalin was focused on "socialism in one state" whereas Trotsky wanted to expand, at that point he came out with that monster of a quote.

Maybe there wouldn't have been a rise of fascism in Germany. Maybe proletarian revo in Germany would have been followed through. Maybe Russia in turn would be industrialized. Maybe then... Russia and Germany defeat Britain and the United States. Maybe....my god....Maybe now we would live under communism. :)

[Prometeo liberado]

They made you color in school when you were 15? Wow!

As an exercise to deface those pics silly. Teacher wanted to make a point. I hated him.

[wsg1991]

human have 5 senses ( in school )
humans have souls ( life time bullshit , started by school )


communism against human nature ( Islamic teacher )
there is god (Islamic teacher)
heart is center of emotion (mainly Islamic teacher )
Muslims were pious and religiously in 8 and 9 century ( Islamic teacher )
destiny exists (Islamic teacher )

==) indoctrination class

[ColonelCossack]

my daughter came home today and said;

"that stupid supply teacher told us that elephants are extinct!"
i mean.... really!

Maybe she meant White Rhinos.

Those guys are extinct, right?

[Rafiq]

human have 5 senses ( in school )
humans have souls ( life time bullshit , started by school )


communism against human nature ( Islamic teacher )
there is god (Islamic teacher)
heart is center of emotion (mainly Islamic teacher )
Muslims were pious and religiously in 8 and 9 century ( Islamic teacher )
destiny exists (Islamic teacher )

==) indoctrination class

What school you at?

Speak up against this bullshit. If it's the same nonsense then who cares, but the hell if a preacher is going to be tolerated.

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[Le Socialiste]

"Single-party systems that incorporate market-friendly economics are considerably more 'democratic' than centralized ones."

"Communism was Marx's pursuit of a classless, stateless utopia, wherein everyone would be equal under the guidance of a workers' party."

"Capitalism, or a decentralized economic model, can serve as a motivating force for political democracy."

Thanks Poli Sci. :rolleyes:

[X5N]

Aaron Burr was executed for treason. I can't remember the other crazy shit he said.

[GPDP]

Truth be told, few of my teachers have said ridiculous things, save for perhaps the typical "communism is a great idea but goes against human nature" comment, and back then I agreed with them.

That said, I did have a pol sci professor in uni that actually defended the CIA. He basically straight up told us that the CIA had overthrown governments and funded counter-revolutions, but then told us not to be so harsh on them, because it's thanks to them securing the United States' national interests in such a manner that we are able to enjoy our current standard of living. Turned out he's just a typical rich Republican, and a mere lecturer more or less teaching for the hell of it, as he didn't have a full professor position in the department (which was surprisingly left-wing for a political science department).

Speaking of my left-wing professors, though, I had a self-proclaimed Marxist professor rooting for Obama like a cheerleader until he got the Nobel Peace Prize and made that speech justifying warmongering, at which point he more or less looked at me and said "you always knew, didn't you?" Other than that, he more or less knew his shit, and we bro'd it up quite a bit.

[wsg1991]

What school you at?

Speak up against this bullshit. If it's the same nonsense then who cares, but the hell if a preacher is going to be tolerated.

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the first part when i was a 6-12 kid , didn't know that was wrong when i got to medicine university

humans don't have soul , they are organic machines ,
your character can fundamentally change if certain areas of your brain are manipulated , stimulated or removed

the 5 senses sin't medically correct humans have more than 7 senses , the known 5 , Nociception ( pain receptors ) , Proprioception , and perhaps few others

the heart is not the centre of emotions , it's an ancient myth , the same myth that says the Liver is the center of thinking , any religion that says that the heart is the center of emotion is FALSE


i doubt destiny when i was 16

we got islamic classes ( 1,5 hour per week ) from 13 to 17 , i wasn't back then either non-religious ( i am not an atheist yet , since i am sure about god existence, but bullshit free ) nor leftist

last i started reading 8 and 9 century arab literature when i was 16 and 17 , it's a part of arabic language study , then later because many delusional islamists thinks about that arabs were religious back then


in Fact , wine poets , sexually liberated society , homosexuality , explicit poems , a guy whining about his dysfunctional dick poets and even atheists ( mainly in medical profession ) ,exists ,

people like are not pious at all

btw i al now almost , 21

[wsg1991]

the 2 philosophy professors who taught me were communists
specially the BAC (last year in college one ) teacher was amazing ,

''work miserable one to feed sleepy lazy bastard '' ( he said in arabic , much better )

an arabic professor who routinely criticize Ben ali (previous dictator )
( A liberal )

in school one of my teacher was criticizing the dictator , and explaining how he is corrupt and stealing the population , to 11 years kids he teaches ,


that's it , others are just apolitical , or don't really talk in politics

[MotherCossack]

Maybe she meant White Rhinos.

Those guys are extinct, right?

son you are so ........ sunny!
maybe she did.....
but camden school for girls!!!!
bit of a gaff....
still ...i'm a one..... to talk

[Mettalian]

In Grade 6, we read a short story about the Vietnam War and the teacher, to set the context, told us a brief, very creative history of it, which then led to a small discussion about communism. A brief did-you know:


Vietnam was ruled iron-fistedly by Communists who posed an immediate threat to the US, so they obviously needed to be invaded.
The tenets of Communism are control (an example was that the leader could come into our classroom and tell us to do handstands. I, for one, reject a handstand-based political economy) and everyone living in the same type of house (Personally, I imagine it like a really grey, concrete suburbia)
Salvadore Allende never existed, as democracy and communism are mutually exclusive. (My dad, a good Marxist, had actually told me about Allende just previously to that, as I remember being very proud of pointing him out to the teacher)

[Decommissioner]

"Oral sex isn't safe, it is possible for a sperm to enter the bloodstream in your pores and impregnate you"

Not even fucking joking, this was during sex ed week in sixth grade science, they had "experts" come up to teach us.

[Comrade Samuel]

Had an Econ. Book that said:

Authoritarian socialism: uses violent revolution as a means of coming to power

Democratic socialism: works within the constitution of a nation to achieve socialist goals

Oh I see what you did there, wire us to automatically link words like "revolution" with bad evil words like "authoritarian" and then make us draw another connection between nice good words like "democratic" and the so-called "socialists" who participate in bourgeois politics.

are you scared, misinformed or both economics book publishers?

[Sir Comradical]

A history teacher implied that Ho Chi Minh was alive after the Vietnam war (Ho Chi Minh died in 1969). I didn't correct her straight away. I went home, checked up on it to be sure and told her privately but she didn't correct herself in class as I had ordered her to. Silly woman.

I do remember complaining in class that we didn't hear enough about the heroism of the Vietnamese resistance (our focus was on the protest movements against the Vietnam war and to be fair the syllabus was generally anti-war), but then some South Vietnamese students started complaining about how evil communism was. I criticised them for siding with the Americans who killed two million of their fellow Vietnamese and got sent out of class to have a chat with the teacher about my insensitive remarks.

Thug Life.

[GPDP]

Oh, I just remembered a good one.

I had a political theory professor in uni that said Plato came up with the idea of communism well before Karl Marx, referring to The Republic. She also went on to say later that ancient Sparta was a communist regime.

I would think someone who has a goddamn doctorate on political theory would know what the fuck Marx advocated and what communism actually entails. Guess I assume too much about the quality of education in this country, even at the highest levels.

[PhoenixAsh]

some of our teachers said to our class that we belonged to the top 10% most intelligent people in the country and that we were to be the intelectual elite....this was doen from age 12-16 and left with some a long lasting impression of superiority.

[Zukunftsmusik]

some of our teachers said to our class that we belonged to the top 10% most intelligent people in the country and that we were to be the intelectual elite....this was doen from age 12-16 and left with some a long lasting impression of superiority.

there's been the same attitude on the high school I graduated from yesterday. Not only among the students, but some teachers and even the principal kept telling us we were special and among the elite in Norway etc. Simply because we're a school with long tradition (800 yrs old. not the building of course, but the institution) and a lot of famous people have gone here. The editor of the student's news paper managed to write that the students at our school are "more intelligent" than other students. (The funny part was that she misspelled intelligent :rolleyes:) Such an attitude is horribly annoying.

[Zukunftsmusik]

Oh, I just remembered a good one.

I had a political theory professor in uni that said Plato came up with the idea of communism well before Karl Marx, referring to The Republic. She also went on to say later that ancient Sparta was a communist regime.

I would think someone who has a goddamn doctorate on political theory would know what the fuck Marx advocated and what communism actually entails. Guess I assume too much about the quality of education in this country, even at the highest levels.

Plato's Republic is actually seen as one of the first "sketches" of communism. Utopian of course. Remember that communism wasn't invented by Marx, as a word it came into use some time under feudalism, I believe.

[GPDP]

Plato's Republic is actually seen as one of the first "sketches" of communism. Utopian of course. Remember that communism wasn't invented by Marx, as a word it came into use some time under feudalism, I believe.

Thing is, she didn't say it necessarily as a fun fact or something like that, but as a jab at Marx. She said something like "Marx Schmarx, Plato came up with it first."

[Regicollis]

The fairy tale version of capitalist economy we were taught in social science class...

That WWII was basically about Germany occupying Denmark and not liking jews. Luckily the Danish resistance movement - whom everybody supported - won the war (with a little help from the allies - i.e. Britain and the US). The Germans only sent jews to the death camps. Not a word about the communists, social democrats, Romas, homosexuals etc. Not a single word on the economical and political causes of the war, not a word about the east front or the Pacific. Not a word about what the ideology of Nazism really was. Not a word about how politicians and capitalists willingly cooperated with the Nazis. Not a word about those who joined the German side. Not a word about the embarrassing trials after the war.

Once we also managed to get a teacher to believe that the school computers were hooked up to something called "the India net".

[Agent Ducky]

My actual high school history classes have been surprisingly balanced.
But one time I had a substitute teacher in Physics class who yelled at people in class who weren't saying the Pledge of Allegiance because they "didn't support the troops" so I told him "How is pledging allegiance to a country that sends its young men and women to die in foreign countries for the interests of big oil and kill innocent civilians along the way 'supporting our troops?'" ... And then he saw the circle-A and hammer and sickle on my jacket... He proceeded to throw out a bunch of strawmen (this was in front of the whole class) that communism=everyone gets paid the same, communism=dictatorship, capitalism=meritocracy... He even got to a point where he was like "I think everyone at this school is brilliant and should be rewarded for this. This isn't how it would be under communism," and tried to get the rest of the class on his side. -_-
This was fucking Physics class. I was so close to filing a complaint against this guy for engaging me in a 30-minute dumbass debate in front of the class all because of what I was wearing and because I challenged his accusations against students who were exercising their right not to say the Pledge...

[Positivist]

Oh, I just remembered a good one.

I had a political theory professor in uni that said Plato came up with the idea of communism well before Karl Marx, referring to The Republic. She also went on to say later that ancient Sparta was a communist regime.

I would think someone who has a goddamn doctorate on political theory would know what the fuck Marx advocated and what communism actually entails. Guess I assume too much about the quality of education in this country, even at the highest levels.

This one actually really irritates me. The society described in Plato's republic is one of rigid division into three specific classes based on 'spirit's and 'wisdom's or something like that. Its not even like the society described by Plato was "equal" (equality and 10957483 billion deaths be what people associate with communism.) Just goes to show how "objective, and unbiased" today's academy.

[Positivist]

My actual high school history classes have been surprisingly balanced.
But one time I had a substitute teacher in Physics class who yelled at people in class who weren't saying the Pledge of Allegiance because they "didn't support the troops" so I told him "How is pledging allegiance to a country that sends its young men and women to die in foreign countries for the interests of big oil and kill innocent civilians along the way 'supporting our troops?'" ... And then he saw the circle-A and hammer and sickle on my jacket... He proceeded to throw out a bunch of strawmen (this was in front of the whole class) that communism=everyone gets paid the same, communism=dictatorship, capitalism=meritocracy... He even got to a point where he was like "I think everyone at this school is brilliant and should be rewarded for this. This isn't how it would be under communism," and tried to get the rest of the class on his side. -_-
This was fucking Physics class. I was so close to filing a complaint against this guy for engaging me in a 30-minute dumbass debate in front of the class all because of what I was wearing and because I challenged his accusations against students who were exercising their right not to say the Pledge...

How did the debate go over with you class? Did he get them on his side.

[Agent Ducky]

How did the debate go over with you class? Did he get them on his side.

I think most of them didn't care. Some of them seemed to be a little offended that I was basically saying everything they know is wrong. Some people were appalled that that guy even had the nerve to do what he did. One guy tried to argue something with me afterwards (I don't remember what the point was) but it was one of those stock capitalist misconceptions like "Everyone gets paid the same." It was clear that he wasn't listening.

[Lynx]

Politics in the classroom is grounds for dismissal, in the high school I attended. Zero discussion of communism or capitalism that I can recall, except for one student whose views suggested he would one day come to power in a coup in some banana republic. I'm still waiting for him to appear on the news.

[Positivist]

Politics in the classroom is grounds for dismissal, in the high school I attended. Zero discussion of communism or capitalism that I can recall, except for one student whose views suggested he would one day come to power in a coup in some banana republic. I'm still waiting for him to appear on the news.

Hahahaha that is hilarious. As for the no politics policy I would prefer that to the skewed propaganda in most schools.

[JPSartre12]

In my (honors) economic theory class, the professor drew a line across the board. He drew a circle at each end of the line and a circle at the very middle.

"The circle on the right is capitalism, where there is complete freedom from the government. The left is communism, where the government owns and runs everything. In the middle we have socialism - were the government has a lot of power, but there is still some degree of freedom"

I'm paraphrasing but .... My god :confused:

[PC LOAD LETTER]

In my (honors) economic theory class, the professor drew a line across the board. He drew a circle at each end of the line and a circle at the very middle.

"The circle on the right is capitalism, where there is complete freedom from the government. The left is communism, where the government owns and runs everything. In the middle we have socialism - were the government has a lot of power, but there is still some degree of freedom"

I'm paraphrasing but .... My god :confused:
Did you go to school at the Mises Institute?

[JPSartre12]

Did you go to school at the Mises Institute?

Nope, a public school. So basically a capitalist indoctrination camp .... Oh wait, that's sort of like Mises :tt2:

[Veovis]

The sun is expanding at such a rate that it couldn't possibly have formed 5 billion years ago and therefore evolution is false.

This was in geometry class, by the way.

[DasFapital]

In my high school American Government class I was taught that voting for John McCain and Sarah Palin would lead to greater personal freedom. Also when I announced I was an anarchist a kid called me an "idiot" and asked if I had "ever been treated in a government hospital" whatever the fuck that was suppose to mean.
Also when I was ten I was kicked out of my Christian youth group for claiming the Earth was over 6,000 years old.

[Prometeo liberado]

How to Square Dance instead of recess. Can you believe it?:confused:

[Lynx]

How to Square Dance instead of recess. Can you believe it?:confused:
Square dancing for half a school year instead of Physed class. Might have been due to budget cuts, it never returned to the curriculum after that.

We also had to do samplers for one year in elementary school.

[Positivist]

Didn't Reagan make square dancing mandatory in Phys ed classes?

[Jesus Saves Gretzky Scores]

Usual communist lies.

My teacher once told the class that anarchism was people fighting over resources and chaos. It wasnt even opinion to him, just fact. :rolleyes:

[Prometeo liberado]

Didn't Reagan make square dancing mandatory in Phys ed classes?

Pretty sure he also made mental illness a criminal offense. Pretty sure.

[Positivist]

Taught in American History that "it is a myth that all the Spanish did was slaughter, enslave, and infect the native Americans with smallpox. They also provided a superior cultural structure which has developed into the nation-states of today."

So the 10% of the native population who weren't killed, were civilized by the mighty Spanish, so you know killing the other 90% is totally cool. Ya nothing racist about that...

[p0is0n]

Really the typical crap about how communism wont work because there is no incentive. He brought up Cuba as an example. This was many many years ago in primary school.

When I went onto high school and university, one of my teachers was a marxist and a scientist researching why school was ineffective. He argued, amongst other things, that schools would be better if they were run democratically by the students together with the teachers (none of that student-council crap), and that a result of it being run in a non-democratic way, was students becoming alienated, which he argued was one of the factors leading to many people merely skipping school. I am obviously oversimplyfying it, but he was a really cool fucking guy.

We'd sit for hours outside, in the sun, he'd smoke his cigars, I smoked my cigarettes, and we'd just talk about various subjects. Everything from marxism to how the hammer and sickle was a material symbol. Good times.

[Nox]

A while back one of my Religious Education teachers told us that Scottish Independence was progressive


lol


He was Scottish, go figure

[Камо́ Зэд]

That high-school matters.

[Ostrinski]

That high-school matters.This.

Man would it have been nice if someone said at the beginning of the freshman year:

"GL but just remember this is all just a bunch of bullshit so take it easy!"

[MustCrushCapitalism]

A while back one of my Religious Education teachers told us that Scottish Independence was progressive

Though I haven't done a lot of research on the matter, most of the Scottish independence movement is on the left. The Scottish National Party are some type of social democrats from what I understand, and I've talked to supporters of the Scottish Socialist Party before.


"GL but just remember this is all just a bunch of bullshit so take it easy!"

Is it? I'm in junior year and I still feel as if failing a single class equates to having no chance of getting into uni, lol.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I remember constantly being told in various stages of school how great the next stage would be: pre-school to Kindergarten, Kindergarten to first grade, elementary school to middle school, middle school to high school. When it came time near the end of the year I always remember the teacher lamenting how awesome the next stage was going to be. Funny thing is that after a little adjusting each stage was progressively worse than the last. Good fucking thing I dropped out and opted for night school; to be duped three times, shame on you, to be duped four times shame on me.

[leftistman]

- In grade 7, the rabbi at my school told my classmates and me that the reason alef is the first letter of the alef-bet(Hebrew alphabet) is because all of the other letters were arguing over who would be first and so God made alef the first letter for being patient.

- In grade 3, my Hebrew teacher claimed that she ran straight up a wall fleeing an Arab soldier during her tenure in the Israel Defense Forces.

- All throughout my years in school my teachers have claimed that Palestinians are fighting Israel because they want to steal the land from God and "his people."

- My teachers all told me that there is an omnipotent, omniscient, benevolent, metaphysical, omnipresent, incorporeal god with a specific set of rules he wants me to live my life by.

Oh, Jewish schools... :laugh:

[Rugged Collectivist]

Oh god so many...

In world history my teacher gave us pencils and forced us to use them. He yelled at us whenever we talked and when we were done filling out the paper he gave us he said that he was simulating socialism or something.

In economics we watched part of a German movie called "Goodbye Lenin" to see what a "command economy" was like. The teacher said we couldn't watch the whole thing because of the nudity or something. She showed us a scene where protesters were being pushed by these big trucks with fences on them, and another scene where people were living in tenements and shit. I actually watched the whole movie on youtube because I was intrigued. The actual movie is pretty fair, and it shows the downsides to reunification and capitalism. It's no surprise we weren't allowed to watch it.

In Catholic school they told me god was real (lol).

They said Robespierre was crazy.

I can't think of anymore right now, but I'm sure there's a lot I'm not remembering.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

A while back one of my Religious Education teachers told us that Scottish Independence was progressive


lol


He was Scottish, go figure
Haha, I had a teacher who was Cornish who tried convincing us that Cornish independence would be a great thing. Good times. :rolleyes:


Though I haven't done a lot of research on the matter, most of the Scottish independence movement is on the left. The Scottish National Party are some type of social democrats from what I understand, and I've talked to supporters of the Scottish Socialist Party before.
No, the Scottish independence movement is pretty right-wing. The reason the tories don't make much traction in Scotland is because all the reactionaries vote SNP.

[Nox]

Haha, I had a teacher who was Cornish who tried convincing us that Cornish independence would be a great thing. Good times. :rolleyes:


No, the Scottish independence movement is pretty right-wing. The reason the tories don't make much traction in Scotland is because all the reactionaries vote SNP.

Yeah. All the nationalists/reactionaries in Scotland are either die-hard separatists or die-hard unionists. Everyone else just votes Labour or Lib Dems.