Maté anyone?

[Rooster]

So I'm drinking maté with my gourd and straw thing. Enjoying the taste. Then I read this on wikipedia:


Mate consumption is associated with oral cancer[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#cite_note-12) esophagus cancer, cancer of the larynx,[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#cite_note-CancerReview09-13) and squamous cell of the head and neck.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#cite_note-Otolaryngol_Head_Neck_Surg.-14)[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#cite_note-Head_Neck.-15) The mechanism is believed to be due to the effect of temperature and the evidence to support this association is strong.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yerba_mate#cite_note-CancerReview09-13)

And


Other studies have highlighted limited evidence showing an association between esophageal cancer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esophageal_cancer) and hot mate drinking. Some research has suggested that this effect is almost entirely a consequence of hot mate's temperature; similar links to cancer have been found for tea and other beverages generally consumed at high temperatures. While drinking mate at very hot temperatures is considered as "probably carcinogenic to humans" on the IARC Group 2A carcinogens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens#Mixtures) list, mate itself is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-19)

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-19)
One study found a link between mate consumption and increased risk of bladder[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-20) cancer, although the increased risk was relatively similar to the risks associated with the consumption of other common caffeinated beverages such as coffee and tea.


One study found an increased risk for lung[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-21) cancer. Another study associated mate drinking with the development of non-Hodgkin lymphoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hodgkin_lymphoma).[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-22)


Kinda put me off it. What is this all about anyway?

[The Jay]

Plenty of things give you cancer. Everything is a risk so I say live it up (in a calculated way)!

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

Even things that should protects you from cancer, give you cancer. Like sunscreen.

[Rooster]

I was just kind of surprised because you don't really get big sections about cancer on any other type of hot drink.

[Left Leanings]

Plenty of things give you cancer. Everything is a risk so I say live it up (in a calculated way)!

Basically, yeah.

I think the human body and brain reaches maturation in most peeps, by the age of 21. After that, it slowly starts to die.

I never smoked. But at the age of 38, I started. I smoke both manufactured ciggies, and roll me own on a tin, with baccy and skins. I've taken to smoking like a duck to water, and really, really enjoy it.

You only live once. So hell yeah, live it up!!!! :thumbup:

[The Jay]

Basically, yeah.

I think the human body and brain reaches maturation in most peeps, by the age of 21. After that, it slowly starts to die.

I never smoked. But at the age of 38, I started. I smoke both manufactured ciggies, and roll me own on a tin, with baccy and skins. I've taken to smoking like a duck to water, and really, really enjoy it.

You only live once. So hell yeah, live it up!!!! :thumbup:

Exactly! For me cigarettes would be a bigger risk than I would be willing to take, but the occasional cigar is something I enjoy. Everything's relative :cool:

[Left Leanings]

Exactly! For me cigarettes would be a bigger risk than I would be willing to take, but the occasional cigar is something I enjoy. Everything's relative :cool:

I used to smoke cigars too, occasionally. Not very often now, though. In fact, it's been years since I had one. And you know what, I LOVE the smell of cigars. And pipe tobacco. That smells soooo sweet and aromatic :)

[The Jay]

By the way, I've always wanted to try mate. Is it as good as I've heard it is?

[Ele'ill]

If you avoided everything that gives you cancer you'd die, possibly of cancer, so yeah I'd say make sure you actually live once.

[Rooster]

By the way, I've always wanted to try mate. Is it as good as I've heard it is?

It's a very acquired taste. I can't really give you a good description. It's like a very strong and very bitter green tea but that's not even getting close to it. I quite like it though. It makes a change from coffee.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Other studies have highlighted limited evidence showing an association between esophageal cancer (http://www.anonym.to/?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esophageal_cancer) and hot mate drinking. Some research has suggested that this effect is almost entirely a consequence of hot mate's temperature; similar links to cancer have been found for tea and other beverages generally consumed at high temperatures. While drinking mate at very hot temperatures is considered as "probably carcinogenic to humans" on the IARC Group 2A carcinogens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IARC_Group_2A_carcinogens#Mixtures) list, mate itself is not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_%28beverage%29#cite_note-19) oh cool so drinking hot things gives cancer
This pretty much confirms what everyone else is saying: everything gives cancer.
I can't wait for the study revealing the carcinogenic properties of starign at my computer screen.

[Rooster]

oh cool so drinking hot things gives cancer
This pretty much confirms what everyone else is saying: everything gives cancer.
I can't wait for the study revealing the carcinogenic properties of starign at my computer screen.

Ha, there was years ago. They said that the radiation from a computer screen, then the vapours from a computer working, gave you cancer.

[Pretty Flaco]

i had mate in my spanish class before. it tastes like green tea but with a smokey flavor too it, like somebody mixed tobacco in with your tea.

[Ostrinski]

Well Che basically lived off it and he did fine so

[Left Leanings]

Ha, there was years ago. They said that the radiation from a computer screen, then the vapours from a computer working, gave you cancer.

It was said also, that using mobile phones could give you brain tumours.

[Pretty Flaco]

Well Che basically lived off it and he did fine so

he was executed before he was even 40...

[Ostrinski]

executed cancer free

[bad ideas actualised by alcohol]

I hope this hot drink->cancer-thing doesn't include coffee, or I'm fucked.

[pastradamus]

Moderation is the key word here. Obviously if you're drinking 20 cups a day then it aint good. Maté is actually a good anti-oxidant so in my opinion a cup or two a day of this stuff is actually beneficial to your health.

Im not so sure about a lot of these studies, one week we hear chocolate can prevent cancer,the next week I hear turmeric, the next week I hear Soya is good for preventing cancer because some college team in college x discovered this. If thats the case then why dont they put the active cancer-fighting elements of these into consumable form for patients? It should benefit even those scumbags in Big Pharma. Every year I go out and contribute money and time to assisting the good people over at cancer research and all I get is this crap rather than giving cervical cancer vaccinations to women for 20 years old onwards (which is what we are campaiging for in Ireland).

The only steps one can surely take to prevent most kinds of cancer is to have a balanced diet, exercise regularly and quit smoking. Otherwise its the luck of the draw really.

[pastradamus]

executed cancer free


Haha, Put that in your Maté pipe and drink it! :D

[pastradamus]

It was said also, that using mobile phones could give you brain tumours.

Indeed, that theory does make sense though. Seeing as how the airwaves from mobile communication produce radiation. Not proven yet, dont give me wrong but it is an interesting theory.

[Left Leanings]

It was said also, that using mobile phones could give you brain tumours.


Indeed, that theory does make sense though. Seeing as how the airwaves from mobile communication produce radiation. Not proven yet, dont give me wrong but it is an interesting theory.

It is interesting, and it does make sense I suppose.

I used to keep my mobile phone in the trouser pocket of my right leg. I noticed that I sometimes got a slight burning sensation there or a prickly feeling. I started putting my mobile in my jacket pocket, and have had no similar feelings in my leg since. I don't know what to make of it really.

[ForgedConscience]

On the mobile thing, I was told by my old physics teacher that although mobiles themselves are unlikely to produce cancer causing radiation (ie that which would ionize), being in close proximity to a mobile signal tower which provides communications for a large area could be dangerous.

[Left Leanings]

On the mobile thing, I was told by my old physics teacher that although mobiles themselves are unlikely to produce cancer causing radiation (ie that which would ionize), being in close proximity to a mobile signal tower which provides communications for a large area could be dangerous.

Yeah I've heard that, too. And guess what? There is one not too far from where I live...

[pastradamus]

Yeah I've heard that, too. And guess what? There is one not too far from where I live...
That must be the belly of the beast there sir.