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ВАЛТЕР
16th April 2012, 10:38
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-01-31/markets/29996892_1_commodities-financial-crisis-markets

The Oliver Wynman Group apparently predicts a financial collapse in 2015. Here's the piece from Business Insiders site.

And here is the original piece in pdf format

http://www.oliverwyman.com/pdf_files/OW_EN_FS_Publ_2011_State_of_Financial_Services_201 1_US_Web.pdf



Oliver Wyman Group has released a very interesting piece (http://www.oliverwyman.com/ow/pdf_files/OW_EN_FS_Publ_2011_State_of_Financial_Services_201 1_US_Web.pdf) about the potential for a future financial crisis (thanks to the FT (http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2011/01/31/474211/the-2015-banking-crisis-begins-in-commodities/)). They make the case that the next great financial crisis will occur around 2015 and will be the result of a massive bubble in commodity markets that results in widespread economic collapse and sovereign defaults.
I’ve described in recent reports how the financialization of the USA is helping to drive commodity prices higher (see here for more (http://pragcap.com/revisiting-speculative-commodity-bubbles)) and generate economic instability. This, combined with the other two major structural imbalances in the global economy (China’s flawed economic policy and the inherently flawed single currency system in Europe) are creating an environment that is ripe for disequilibrium and turmoil. The potential for bubbles is not only likely, but now appears like a near certainty.
Wyman describes how the bubble will form in commodities and ultimately collapse:
“Based on favorable demographic trends and continued liberalization, the growth story for emerging markets was accepted by almost everyone. However, much of the economic activity in these markets was buoyed by cheap money being pumped into the system by Western central banks. Commodities prices had acted as a sponge to soak up the excess global money supply, and commodities-rich emerging economies such as Brazil and Russia were the main beneficiaries.
High commodities prices created strong incentives for these emerging economies to launch expensive development projects to dig more commodities out of the ground, creating a massive oversupply of commodities relative to the demand coming from the real economy. In the same way that over-valued property prices in the US had allowed people to go on debt-fueled spending sprees, the governments of commodities-rich economies started spending beyond their means. They fell into the familiar trap of borrowing from foreign investors to finance huge development projects justified by unrealistic valuations. Western banks built up large and concentrated loan exposures in these new and exciting growth markets.
The banking M&A market was turned on its head. Banks pursuing high growth strategies, particularly those focussed on lending to the booming commodities-rich economies, started to attract high market valuations and shareholder praise. In the second half of 2012 some of these banks made successful bids for some of the leading European players that had been cut down to a digestible size by the new anti-“too big to fail” regulations. The market was, once again, rewarding the riskiest strategies. Stakeholders and commentators began pressing risk-averse banks to mimic their bolder rivals.
The narrative driving the global commodities bubble assumed a continuation of the increasing demand from China, which had become the largest commodities importer in the world. Any rumors of a slowing Chinese economy sent tremors through global markets. Much now depended on continued demand growth in China and continued appreciation of commodities prices.”
The bubble bursts
Western central banks pumping cheap money into the financial system was seen by many as having the dual purposes of kick-starting Western economies and pressing China to appreciate its currency. Strict capital controls initially enabled the Chinese authorities to resist pressure on their currency. Yet the dramatic rises in commodities prices resulting from loose Western monetary policies eventually caused rampant inflation in China. China was forced to raise interest rates and appreciate its currency to bring inflation under control. The Western central banks had been granted their wish of an appreciating Chinese currency but with the unwanted side effect of a slowing Chinese economy and the reduction in global demand that came with it.


Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-01-31/markets/29996892_1_commodities-financial-crisis-markets#ixzz1sC5jGVv3




What do you guys think? How likely is this to occur? Can we hope some kind fo a leftist movement to emerge form this?

Martin Blank
16th April 2012, 11:17
If you had asked me a month ago, I would have said yes. But now, I'm not so sure. The passage of the so-called JOBS Act earlier this month effectively legalized the practices that led to the "dot-com" crash in 1999, but also expanded them to all sectors of the economy. New companies get the first years of being a publicly-traded company free from SEC oversight and independent accounting; a startup that goes through an IPO can give investors false information about expected revenue and potential growth for all that time. Also, the "boiler room" method of stock brokering is back, with a seal of approval from the White House and the SEC. For the next five to 10 years, at least, the U.S. economy is going to be in the land of make believe, giving the concept of fictitious capital a whole new meaning. This may push off any real collapse in the U.S. commodities market for some time.

Until I can see more modeling on the effects of the "JOBS" Act, I'm going to take a wait-and-see attitude to such dire predictions.

Delenda Carthago
16th April 2012, 11:37
If you had asked me a month ago, I would have said yes. But now, I'm not so sure. The passage of the so-called JOBS Act earlier this month effectively legalized the practices that led to the "dot-com" crash in 1999, but also expanded them to all sectors of the economy. New companies get the first years of being a publicly-traded company free from SEC oversight and independent accounting; a startup that goes through an IPO can give investors false information about expected revenue and potential growth for all that time. Also, the "boiler room" method of stock brokering is back, with a seal of approval from the White House and the SEC. For the next five to 10 years, at least, the U.S. economy is going to be in the land of make believe, giving the concept of fictitious capital a whole new meaning. This may push off any real collapse in the U.S. commodities market for some time.

Until I can see more modeling on the effects of the "JOBS" Act, I'm going to take a wait-and-see attitude to such dire predictions.
FED is printing dollars like crazy. That will bring an infiltration like you have never seen. USA economy no way its gonna stand tall counting on inner market.

Danielle Ni Dhighe
16th April 2012, 12:06
When I see reports like this from organizations like the Oliver Wyman Group, I always wonder if they're selling something and how they're profiting from it.

ВАЛТЕР
16th April 2012, 12:39
When I see reports like this from organizations like the Oliver Wyman Group, I always wonder if they're selling something and how they're profiting from it.


I think the same thing. I have become so suspicious of everything that it has become a problem for me. There are very few things I am willing to accept as acts anymore.