U.S.A. New Tortures?

[Dreadnaht1]

In an email sent to me by Amnesty Int. a portion states this:

Recently, Fox News, Newsweek, The Washington Post and other media outlets have commented or reported on the possibility of using torture to help collect information from individuals who may know something about the September 11 attacks on the US.

OK, torture is so fucking wrong. The only person that should be tortured right now is George Bush. And I'm even pretty leanient on that, I mean I'd be willing to just shoot the bastard. But, anyway, I was hoping to get more opionion on this and see how the community stands.

[ShadowOfGuest]

Yeah, tortures shite, but hardly anything new. Countries have been doing this since ummmm, well they havent ever stopped since they began really...
Interrogation and torture is standard information gathering for secret services. Most captured/defecting enemies are subjected to it.

[Nickademus]

and don't kid yourself. the united states already does use torture. and i'm not trying to be superior because canada does too

[El Commandante]

The British regularly used torture methods in Ireland in the 1960s and 70s. The only reason they stopped is because it came to media attention and the court of human rights intervened.

[El Commandante]

(posted twice by mistake)

(Edited by El Commandante at 12:11 pm on Nov. 17, 2001)

[Dreadnaht1]

Maybe I should rephrase this, how do we all feel about the U.S.A. using torture with the media being aware and the people being aware of it?

[Nickademus]

torture is wrong and the fact that people know about it and aren't protesting it is just sickening

[Son of Scargill]

Amen to that!!!!By the way,why hasn't theUSA nuked Fort Benning in Georgia,after all,it is a terrorist training camp?

(Edited by Son of Scargill at 9:56 am on Nov. 17, 2001)

[Reuben]

Your right El Commandante.

In the case of the Birmingham Six, who from what I know seem to be a group ofd Irishmen picked up at the port, they were not only torured into confessions, but a police officer delivered the threat that they could get the British army to kill one of their families and that a British soldier would never be prosecuted for killing an irish family.



Yours in struggle,

Reuben

[kingbee]

doesnt the us have pschyological camps in their country? torture isnt only physical , its mental too.

[El Commandante]

I think that torture is one of the most degrading and humilating things that can be done against you. Whether it is through violence and physical assult or mentally telling someone if they don't cooperate then their family will be killed. It is a tactic for the middle ages and abandoned rapidly.

P.S. Our good friends in the N.A. have a particularly "effective" way of torturing prisoners. Because of the large amount of aid that is delivered to the country they use them as suffocation boxes. They put taleban prisoners in them, seal them, leave them in the heat and wait for them to die from suffocation or heat exhaustion. Nice to know that our governments are cooperating with such "gentlemen".

[Zippy]

They torture their population aswell by making them watch Friends.

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Torture, in its sole aim of gathering information is pointless. A person will say anything when they are being branded/burnt/whipped, etc. I would own up to master minding the September 11th attacks myself if they were electrocuting my testicles.

Zippy.

[CommieBastard]

I would never cave in to mere pain, it is all in the mind. I have even tested this on myself, and exposed myself to extremes of pain. IT is nothing if you ignore it.

However, you can't do anything to stop drugs, which is quite a common means for information extraction.
The CIA, KGB and virtually every secret service has experimented with drugs. The CIA even called up minor government officials and their families during the cold war for 'a pleasant retreat'. What actually happened was they used LSD to subtly change the personality of the government official's wife, and then observed to see if the differences were noticed...
but other than brain washing drugs can be very useful to simply get someone to talk...