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MarxistMick
13th April 2012, 14:04
can anyone give me a like a chart im really interested in structures, but i want to know the positions in the party

KurtFF8
13th April 2012, 15:57
Well there are quite a few parties and quit a few different structures so perhaps you could be a little more specific about what you're looking for. And perhaps talk a little bit more about your intentions, for example if you're looking to join a party.

MarxistMick
13th April 2012, 15:59
im actually looking to set up a party ive heard things like national executive committee but i just want the basic structure

Martin Blank
13th April 2012, 20:57
As Kurt pointed out, there are different models and structures, but there are some fundamentals.

1. The base organization of a party is the Unit (cell, circle, fraction, etc.). These are usually either geographically- or workplace-based, and are often kept small to allow for better flexibility and movement.

2. Units are united into Locals (or Branches), which coordinate activity in a geographic area.

2a. Some parties skip the formation of Units and start with Locals directly. The groups that organize this way usually set the base minimum number of members higher than those groups that start with Units (e.g., a minimum of two for a Unit; a minimum of five for a Local).

3. Some parties have organizations that cover a state/province, or part of a state/province, or multiple states/provinces. They can be called Districts, Regions, State Parties or Divisions. They unite Units and Locals in a geographical or industrial area.

4. The base organizations (Units or Locals) gather in Convention (or Congress) and elect a central coordinating and administrative body: a Central Committee, National Committee, Executive Committee, NEC, CEC, etc.

5. National officers are either elected by Convention or by the Central Committee.

6. The Central Committee can set up a sub-committee to handle things on a daily basis, if it is not possible for the C.C. to meet that often.

7. All bodies that are elected from another are accountable to the larger bodies, and all of their decisions are subject to review at any time.

8. The Convention or a membership-wide referendum is the last word on every decision by the party.

9. If your organization is small and geographically localized, it might be best to just have regular membership aggregates and an elected Chairperson or Organizer, and avoid the more developed kinds of organization until you have the numbers to warrant it.

10. The most important part of any party is its political program. It is the basis on which you unite. For every hour of time you spend on organizational questions, spend 10 hours on political development and clarity.

Book O'Dead
13th April 2012, 23:13
"The Principle and the Party are one."

daft punk
14th April 2012, 16:25
Why would you be looking to set up a party?

MarxistMick
14th April 2012, 18:41
im just intrested in setting up a party thats all my community has been left with out a voice and im sure theirs lots of other communities are like that aswell the only time you see local parties is during the elections, and they support a bigoted police force.

Q
14th April 2012, 22:46
In addition to Cthulhu I'd like to point out that the are no blueprints for building a party. Concrete circumstances determine how communists organize. The size of the group, the fact that you're working in an open society or under a police state, etc are all factors.

I'd like to reiterate the last point Cthulhu made too: Despite how you organize, even if you're in a deep secretive underground group, what must prevail is political open debate. The process of such polemical but comradely debates in turn determines the clarity of the whole collective and indeed our class as a whole.

The individual might need to stay undercover, but political ideas need to be waged in the open.

Cork Socialist
14th April 2012, 23:24
Can I ask why you don't join a party already active in Ireland? I understand that can be difficult in some areas where there are no branches and if that is the case then fine. But I was just wondering?

MarxistMick
15th April 2012, 13:37
yea comrade theirs no branches near me their all in belfast and i just cant get the transport

Cork Socialist
15th April 2012, 17:38
I would suggest contacting a Party and getting advice of them, whichever party appeals to you( if any).
Perhaps they could assist you in organizing a branch in your area. I would suggest that over starting a new political party. Plus I don't know about your political experience but they would have more experience in terms of organizing structures etc.

daft punk
15th April 2012, 18:41
There is a socialist party in Ireland. It's called the Socialist Party. If they don't have a branch in your area, they would help you set one up. They have the support structure and the name that can help you, just contact them.

Cork Socialist
15th April 2012, 18:49
There is a socialist party in Ireland. It's called the Socialist Party. If they don't have a branch in your area, they would help you set one up. They have the support structure and the name that can help you, just contact them.
That is correct if that's your thing, I am down south so probably couldn't be of much help, but im sure there are some comrades from the north on this board.

To be honest it all depends on what you want to do and where you are politically.