View Full Version : Why do meany leftists call each other comrade?
arilando
8th April 2012, 22:19
Yeah why?
bad ideas actualised by alcohol
8th April 2012, 22:23
Because it sounds cool.
ed miliband
8th April 2012, 22:25
Because it sounds cool.
quite the opposite in fact
TheGodlessUtopian
8th April 2012, 22:28
It dates back,I believe,to the french revolution.
The reason is simply a way of differentiating who is a leftist and who isn't. It can come in handy when you are at a large gathering and have to comment on peoples political views. Saying "comrade" is a quick, efficent way of seperating who are sympathetic to your views and who isn't.
It can be corny if used to often but so as long as it doesn't reach cult levels it is fine.I seldom use it and opt instead for more normal prefixes. Usually I use it when addressing leftists whom I haven't yet met.
RedAnarchist
8th April 2012, 22:30
In the French Revolution I think they used Citizen a lot, whilst Comrade was more due to the Paris Commune, but I could be wrong.
ColonelCossack
8th April 2012, 22:40
I'm not a meany, comrade. :(
because it is egalitarian, sexless (genderless), and holds a sentiment of solidarity
as long as it isn't abused of course
ColonelCossack
8th April 2012, 22:41
Because it sounds cool.
Yeah this. Fuck you if you disagree. :cursing:
ВАЛТЕР
8th April 2012, 22:42
It means that you view each other as equals.
Firebrand
9th April 2012, 02:15
Lots of reasons. It's egalitarian, it invokes the memory of past struggle, its traditional, and it conjures up an image of friendship and solidarity. Even if you are complete strangers if you call someone comrade it implies loyalty and support. The word means friend or ally so it is a way of adressing strangers that isn't impersonal, which given that forming a movement is all about connecting people can only be a good thing.
Comrade Samuel
9th April 2012, 02:29
Can't you just shut up and be happy we own a word?!
Like the others said, it's got some history with leftist and it refers to both sexes but moreover it sounds alot better than calling eachother mr.commie scumbag or mrs.commie scumbag.
Welshy
9th April 2012, 02:39
i thought it was because we are role playing a socialist version of dnd? Just in case we still are, I'm going to use my +5 Cheka of Anarchist Capturing to place OP in my gulag of counterrevolutionary holding.
Geiseric
9th April 2012, 02:42
I would say because the arguements get so intense that we need something to reinforce a feeling of common ground >.>
I don't say comrade though, usually people know if they're my comrade without me saying so.
Because we live in a fucked up world with a fucked up system, and we're all in it together.
#FF0000
9th April 2012, 09:56
i like 'fellow worker' better
ВАЛТЕР
9th April 2012, 10:01
That's our word. I better not hear some right winger using our word. :glare:
Rusty Shackleford
9th April 2012, 10:01
i like 'fellow worker' better
thats cornier than all hell. :p
i refer to almost everyone as dude or man, regardless of sex or gender expression. i only refer to party members as comrades though. and rarely. usually during the days greeting and goodbye.
Aeval
9th April 2012, 18:00
I think the main reason people use it is actually because they forget people's name in meetings, that and they think it gives them bonus leftie points :lol:
Ostrinski
9th April 2012, 18:05
It's outdated.
ColonelCossack
9th April 2012, 19:55
It's outdated.
Well, I think that thou art a villein!
ColonelCossack
9th April 2012, 19:57
i thought it was because we are role playing a socialist version of dnd? Just in case we still are, I'm going to use my +5 Cheka of Anarchist Capturing to place OP in my gulag of counterrevolutionary holding.
That must be a compliment to the word, because dnd is awesome.
Also, don't many anarchists also say "comrade"? I thought it was pretty pan-leftist.
Ostrinski
9th April 2012, 19:58
I cringe when I picture people calling each other comrade irl
ColonelCossack
9th April 2012, 20:12
I cringe when I picture people calling each other comrade irl
comrade comrade comrade
tbh i do it irl just to annoy people
ВАЛТЕР
9th April 2012, 20:17
Well here in the former Yugoslavia the word for comrade is often used as the word "friend", so it is common for people to call everyone comrade. Like "Hey comrade do you know what time it is?" or "What's up comrades, how's it going?".
Veovis
9th April 2012, 20:42
Well, I think that thou art a villein!
Forsooth.
Ostrinski
9th April 2012, 22:17
We need a new word. A contemporary form of comrade.
Welshy
9th April 2012, 22:49
We need a new word. A contemporary form of comrade.
How about evil commie bastard?
Also I think this should be moved to chit-chat.
Firebrand
10th April 2012, 00:42
It's outdated.
Outdated is really outdated and you still use it.
Bostana
10th April 2012, 00:57
The political usage of the term was inspired by the French Revolution. Upon abolishing the titles of nobility, and the terms monsieur and madame (literally, "my lord" and "my lady"), the revolutionaries employed the term citoyen for men and citoyenne for women (both meaning "citizen") to refer to each other. The deposed King Louis XVI, for instance, was referred to as Citoyen Louis Capet to emphasize his loss of privilege.
When the socialist movement gained momentum in the mid-19th century, socialists began to look for an egalitarian alternative to terms like "Mister", "Miss", or "Missus". They chose "comrade" as their preferred term of address.In English, the first known use of the word with this meaning was in 1884 in the socialist magazine Justice.
Roach
10th April 2012, 01:04
That's our word. I better not hear some right winger using our word. :glare:
Actually a lot of fascists used equivalents to comrade, for example the Nazis used Kamarade as opposed to Gennosse by communists, I also recall the Spanish Falangists using it.
Le Rouge
11th April 2012, 01:10
I've been called comrade only once. Good time. :)
Pretty Flaco
11th April 2012, 01:39
We need a new word. A contemporary form of comrade.
lets go on strike, my homies
Ele'ill
11th April 2012, 01:42
lets go on strike, my homies
Hey grand idea fellow worker
Luc
11th April 2012, 01:44
Hey grand idea fellow worker
No. Just no. Why does the IWW have to do this???
seventeethdecember2016
11th April 2012, 02:08
Just as an example: the first Christians, who worked underground and conspired heavily against the Romans, used this as their symbol.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_afCjFtHpZlQ/TSy8vknqEtI/AAAAAAAAADI/cBIF8jIM9UA/s1600/ChristianFish.gif
That is why we say Comrade, it is a symbol.
Kitty_Paine
11th April 2012, 02:12
The use of the word comrade should only be done in real life if the speaker has:
a) Participated in an actual worker's revolution.
AND/OR
b) A heavy Russian accent.
Landsharks eat metal
11th April 2012, 02:14
Comrade is just a beautiful word. I love it when people call me comrade. It makes me feel like I matter and like I'm included in things. Never heard anyone use it towards me in real life (besides gentle mocking of my political beliefs), though.
Prometeo liberado
11th April 2012, 02:20
We need a new word. A contemporary form of comrade.
Replacing comrade with something more 'hip' or 'new' is very lifestylist. Somethings are just timeless.
Pretty Flaco
11th April 2012, 02:23
the word comrade in america just sounds archaic and when people hear it they either associate it with soldiers or russians.
"he died on the battlefield with his comrades"
"comrade, where is the vodka?"
Deicide
11th April 2012, 02:29
The political usage of the term was inspired by the French Revolution. Upon abolishing the titles of nobility, and the terms monsieur and madame (literally, "my lord" and "my lady"), the revolutionaries employed the term citoyen for men and citoyenne for women (both meaning "citizen") to refer to each other. The deposed King Louis XVI, for instance, was referred to as Citoyen Louis Capet to emphasize his loss of privilege.
When the socialist movement gained momentum in the mid-19th century, socialists began to look for an egalitarian alternative to terms like "Mister", "Miss", or "Missus". They chose "comrade" as their preferred term of address.In English, the first known use of the word with this meaning was in 1884 in the socialist magazine Justice.
Rofl.. You copy'pasted these two paragraphs straight from wikipedia.. I don't like it when people copy'n'paste without citing their sources and try to pass things of as their own.. tut tut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comrade
seventeethdecember2016
11th April 2012, 02:54
Rofl.. You copy'pasted these two paragraphs straight from wikipedia.. I don't like it when people copy'n'paste without citing their sources and try to pass things of as their own..
What are you trying to prove with this comment? Did it occur to you that he may have forgotten to cite?
Here is a quote by you previously.
Actually, just to be disagreeable (because I think you're an asshole).If you're to be an 'asshole,' then stop using that term to describe others. Your nothing more than a hypocrite.
Ele'ill
11th April 2012, 03:18
No. Just no. Why does the IWW have to do this???
I'm not a wob but yeah :lol:
MotherCossack
11th April 2012, 03:56
comradEvery day is so wonderful
And suddenly it's hard to breathe
Now and then I get insecure
From all the pain, feel so ashamed
I am beautiful no matter what they say
Words can't bring me down
I am beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring me down, oh no
So don't you bring me down today
To all your friends you're delirious
So consumed in all your doom
Tryin' hard to fill the emptiness, the piece is gone
Left the puzzle undone, ain't that the way it is?
'Cause you are beautiful no matter what they say
Words can't bring you down, oh no
You are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring you down, oh no
[ From: http://www.elyrics.net/read/c/christina-aguilera-lyrics/beautiful-lyrics.html ]
So don't you bring me down today
No matter what we do
No matter what we do
(No matter what we say)
No matter what we say
(We're the song that's outta tune)
(Full of beautiful mistakes)
(And everywhere we go)
And everywhere we go
(The sun will always shine)
The sun will always, always shine!
(But tomorrow we might awake on the other side)
'Cause we are beautiful no matter what they say
Yes, words won't bring us down, oh no
We are beautiful in every single way
Yes, words can't bring us down, oh no
So don't you bring me down today
Don't you bring me down today
Don't you bring me down todayretenderse ..... it sounds wierd... and like ... we are
PC LOAD LETTER
11th April 2012, 04:00
lets go on strike, my homies
This
the word comrade in america just sounds archaic and when people hear it they either associate it with soldiers or russians.
"he died on the battlefield with his comrades"
"comrade, where is the vodka?"
Vodka is necessary in any revolution
MotherCossack
11th April 2012, 04:00
omg omg omg that post wrote itself...
that is so freaky i was just about to start writing in the blank box.... you know ....
at the bottom of the thread..... i had typed about 3 words......
then suddenly that song appeared in the box.....
as if i wrote it....i am mystified... if it belongs to anyone ... please claim it.
PC LOAD LETTER
11th April 2012, 04:02
omg omg omg that post wrote itself...
that is so freaky i was just about to start writing in the blank box.... you know ....
at the bottom of the thread..... i had typed about 3 words......
then suddenly that song appeared in the box.....
as if i wrote it....i am mystified... if it belongs to anyone ... please claim it.
:lol: There's a link to the Christina Aguilera lyrics page in the song
Prometeo liberado
11th April 2012, 08:01
the word comrade in America just sounds archaic and when people hear it they either associate it with soldiers or russians.
"he died on the battlefield with his comrades"
"comrade, where is the vodka?"
Maybe the problem is just on them. Some people choose to be ignorant consumerist douche bags. Doesn't mean I'm going to change and be one as well.
Prometeo liberado
11th April 2012, 08:03
omg omg omg that post wrote itself...
that is so freaky i was just about to start writing in the blank box.... you know ....
at the bottom of the thread..... i had typed about 3 words......
then suddenly that song appeared in the box.....
as if i wrote it....i am mystified... if it belongs to anyone ... please claim it.
It's mine.
Sir Comradical
11th April 2012, 08:54
I use it to send out commie vibes to see if there are any reds in the room.
CynicalIdealist
11th April 2012, 08:59
I have a romantic image of anarchists in Spain or Russian workers in 1917 using it, so when I hear some nerd/dork/dweeb socialist use it I feel tempted to nuke the planet. Seriously, it's good if used in the proper context, like either in a totally tongue-in-cheek manner or a totally genuine manner, but otherwise it sucks especially if not used in moderation.
honest john's firing squad
11th April 2012, 09:54
fact: everyone who uses the word 'comrade' in conversation sounds like an asshat
The Jay
11th April 2012, 10:04
I disagree, I think that you're just angry in every single post that you make. Take a chill pill, comrade.
ColonelCossack
11th April 2012, 12:51
omg omg omg that post wrote itself...
that is so freaky i was just about to start writing in the blank box.... you know ....
at the bottom of the thread..... i had typed about 3 words......
then suddenly that song appeared in the box.....
as if i wrote it....i am mystified... if it belongs to anyone ... please claim it.
i think sistercossack was using that song for her own devious purposes; she probably copied it, and you accidentally pressed ctrl-v or something.
Case Closed. :cool:
honest john's firing squad
11th April 2012, 14:36
Take a chill pill, comrade.
I see what you did there.
RedAnarchist
11th April 2012, 14:52
I see what you did there.
I'm sure you did, comrade.
Minima
11th April 2012, 19:13
nah me and my hipster friends already use it out of habit, when the revolution comes around you'll probably want to be a comrade too.
Anderson
11th April 2012, 19:36
I hate it when I see bourgeois intellectuals heading left parties being called comrades while they carry on activities furthering the interests of capitalists.:(
Lanky Wanker
12th April 2012, 03:28
Well I've heard fascists/white nationalists say it too so I guess it's just a general "y0, homie" sort of thing amongst revolutionary people or whatever.
I'm so tired right now.
Ostrinski
12th April 2012, 03:34
Instead of saying 'comrade' I'm going to say 'associate.' It rings much more of a bell.
PC LOAD LETTER
12th April 2012, 04:23
Instead of saying 'comrade' I'm going to say 'associate.' It rings much more of a bell.
http://i.imgur.com/eWxik.jpg
"These are my associates. They're from the party."
Ostrinski
12th April 2012, 04:25
Look like prestigious leninists to me
Prometeo liberado
12th April 2012, 04:26
I disagree, I think that you're just angry in every single post that you make. Take a chill pill, comrade.
Lighten up comrade,er....francis.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lighten+up+francis&mid=9748B24AFBDABB6912159748B24AFBDABB691215&view=detail&FORM=VIRE2
Anderson
13th April 2012, 15:49
If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine. - CHE
hatzel
13th April 2012, 16:06
If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine. - CHE
What a bleeding heart liberal that guy was...
Franz Fanonipants
13th April 2012, 16:15
leninism is the light is why
Anderson
13th April 2012, 16:22
What a bleeding heart liberal that guy was...
You sure must be knowing some "real" comrades........;)
Railyon
13th April 2012, 19:35
Over here in Germany, Nazis call each other "Kamerad", while the lefties call each other "Genosse".
Both translate to English as comrade. Coincidence? I think not.
Also, Genosse sounds die-hard DDR ML.
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