Vyacheslav Brolotov
7th April 2012, 03:04
Ok, so I have recently been reading TheGodlessUtopian's thread on "Queer" News and have found the concept very useful. So, I have decided that, considering I am Latino (not Hispanic; Hispanic is a term more traditionally used for people from Spain, not Latin America), I will make a thread in which I will post at least one news story everyday that concerns the Latino/Hispanic worldwide community. Thank you TheGodlessUtopian for the idea!
Here is the first story of this thread that I hope lasts for many years:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/gay-rights-latino-support_n_1408180.html
This story sort of mixes in Latino interests with homosexual interests, which worries me because I think that TheGodlessUtopian might have beaten me to it. Needless to say, this story is of historical significance. Latinos/Hispanics have been known worldwide to be very conservative in tradition. I can see that that tide is changing in the United States of America, at least when it comes to attitudes on homosexuality, an issue that the Latino/Hispanic community has been portrayed as being very reactionary on and quite frankly is.
A study released by the Pew Hispanic Center (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/when-labels-dont-fit-hispanics-and-their-views-of-identity/1/) on Wednesday found that 59 percent of U.S. Latinos say homosexuality should be accepted by society. Second generation Hispanics go further, with 68 percent of those surveyed saying the same.
This is amazing. Roughly half of the general Latino population (I think Hispanics were excluded in this poll. Sorry) is for homosexuality being accepted by society.
69 percent of 18-29 year olds and 60 percent of 30-49 year olds say that homosexuality should be accepted by society. However, for Latinos, where you were born seems to be correlated with your thoughts on the issue, according to the study. 53 percent of foreign-born Latinos in the U.S. say homosexuality should be accepted, where as 68 percent of second generation Latinos say the same. But as Latin American immigration slows, and more Latinos are native born, some believe that the proportion of Latinos born abroad will fall even further in coming years.
Yet, we do see that attitudes change according to different ages and places of births, which is to be expected. Older Latinos are obviously more conservative, whether they were born in the United States or not, because attitudes all over the world were more conservative in the past, not to mention what is traditionally taught to Latino children by their parents on the issue of homosexuality.
Obviously, Latinos that were actually originally born in Latin American nations are also more likely to be conservative on the issue of homosexuality, because those are the places where the Latino culture originates from and the traditional Latino culture is, unfortunately, very homophobic. For example, the colloquial word in the Dominican Republic and many other Latin American nations for homosexual is pajaro, which means bird. Also, there are few real legal protections for homosexual in many Latin American nations that actually work.
The study comes just a week after internal documents from the National Organization of Marriage were made public which revealed NOM's strategy of pitting Latinos against gay equality in order to pass a ban on gay marriage in Maine. According to a report by The San Francisco Chronicle, the internal documents, "describe a strategy to make opposition to same-sex marriage 'a key badge of Latino identity' and 'a badge of youth rebellion to conformist assimilation to the bad side of Anglo culture." Furthermore, the documents outlined the strategy to "drive a wedge between gays and blacks - two key Democratic constituencies," and utilize "glamorous, young Latinos and Latinas, especially artists, actors, musicians, athletes, writers and other celebrities willing to stand up for marriage."
^^^^This is what really pisses me off about how conservatives view Latinos (liberals are not much better, though). They try to reassert the traditional Latino values in us that benefit their agenda, but ask us to get rid of the parts of our culture that do not benefit them. They are racists; plain and simple. They even want to manipulate anti-white and anti-black sentiments that some ignorant Latinos might have. They love racial unity when it benefits them, but try to divide races when they see fit to advance their ignorant goals. So, basically we have a bunch of white, probably fat, guys sitting around at NOM trying to discover ways to divide the nation just so icky gays won’t get married. How disgusting.
Well, I cannot speak for all Latinos, but I stand in solidarity with the homosexual community worldwide, especially the revolutionary homosexuals on this website who know that they cannot achieve their goals of true egalitarianism without the victory of the proletariat first.
Other News:
This is also sort of interesting:
http://a57.foxnews.com/img.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/politics/660/371/Poll%201.jpg
Now American Latinos need to learn how to say, "Fuck presidents! Where are my workers' councils?"
Last notes: I hope that I will not end up doing this thread all by myself. I am asking that all other people with good news stories on Hispanic/Latino issues post here. I might get lazy or sick one day (I have vision problems) and not do any stories, so expect a discussion to still go on if you guys really care (which it is ok if you do not).
Also, people from Spain and other Spanish speaking territories, please feel welcome to add to the conversation. I am sorry, but I am Latino (Salvadoran, Cuban, and Dominican), so I do not really become excited by Spanish stories. I will try my best to do some stories from and about Spain, but they will most likely be rare.
I am Latino, yet I am not very good at my mother tongue of Spanish, so do not come writing to me in Spanish and expect me to write back to you in an understandable fashion! You can post stories in Spanish (please do), but do not try to converse with me in said language, unless I feel comfortable enough one day to spark up my own conversation with you. Your Spanish gets a little rusty when you have been speaking only English since you were five years old.
I am going to make a Latino group on RevLeft (specifically for Latinos, but Hispanics and other races can join). Please join.
Here is the group: http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=940
Thank you!
¡Gracias!
Here is the first story of this thread that I hope lasts for many years:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/06/gay-rights-latino-support_n_1408180.html
This story sort of mixes in Latino interests with homosexual interests, which worries me because I think that TheGodlessUtopian might have beaten me to it. Needless to say, this story is of historical significance. Latinos/Hispanics have been known worldwide to be very conservative in tradition. I can see that that tide is changing in the United States of America, at least when it comes to attitudes on homosexuality, an issue that the Latino/Hispanic community has been portrayed as being very reactionary on and quite frankly is.
A study released by the Pew Hispanic Center (http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/04/when-labels-dont-fit-hispanics-and-their-views-of-identity/1/) on Wednesday found that 59 percent of U.S. Latinos say homosexuality should be accepted by society. Second generation Hispanics go further, with 68 percent of those surveyed saying the same.
This is amazing. Roughly half of the general Latino population (I think Hispanics were excluded in this poll. Sorry) is for homosexuality being accepted by society.
69 percent of 18-29 year olds and 60 percent of 30-49 year olds say that homosexuality should be accepted by society. However, for Latinos, where you were born seems to be correlated with your thoughts on the issue, according to the study. 53 percent of foreign-born Latinos in the U.S. say homosexuality should be accepted, where as 68 percent of second generation Latinos say the same. But as Latin American immigration slows, and more Latinos are native born, some believe that the proportion of Latinos born abroad will fall even further in coming years.
Yet, we do see that attitudes change according to different ages and places of births, which is to be expected. Older Latinos are obviously more conservative, whether they were born in the United States or not, because attitudes all over the world were more conservative in the past, not to mention what is traditionally taught to Latino children by their parents on the issue of homosexuality.
Obviously, Latinos that were actually originally born in Latin American nations are also more likely to be conservative on the issue of homosexuality, because those are the places where the Latino culture originates from and the traditional Latino culture is, unfortunately, very homophobic. For example, the colloquial word in the Dominican Republic and many other Latin American nations for homosexual is pajaro, which means bird. Also, there are few real legal protections for homosexual in many Latin American nations that actually work.
The study comes just a week after internal documents from the National Organization of Marriage were made public which revealed NOM's strategy of pitting Latinos against gay equality in order to pass a ban on gay marriage in Maine. According to a report by The San Francisco Chronicle, the internal documents, "describe a strategy to make opposition to same-sex marriage 'a key badge of Latino identity' and 'a badge of youth rebellion to conformist assimilation to the bad side of Anglo culture." Furthermore, the documents outlined the strategy to "drive a wedge between gays and blacks - two key Democratic constituencies," and utilize "glamorous, young Latinos and Latinas, especially artists, actors, musicians, athletes, writers and other celebrities willing to stand up for marriage."
^^^^This is what really pisses me off about how conservatives view Latinos (liberals are not much better, though). They try to reassert the traditional Latino values in us that benefit their agenda, but ask us to get rid of the parts of our culture that do not benefit them. They are racists; plain and simple. They even want to manipulate anti-white and anti-black sentiments that some ignorant Latinos might have. They love racial unity when it benefits them, but try to divide races when they see fit to advance their ignorant goals. So, basically we have a bunch of white, probably fat, guys sitting around at NOM trying to discover ways to divide the nation just so icky gays won’t get married. How disgusting.
Well, I cannot speak for all Latinos, but I stand in solidarity with the homosexual community worldwide, especially the revolutionary homosexuals on this website who know that they cannot achieve their goals of true egalitarianism without the victory of the proletariat first.
Other News:
This is also sort of interesting:
http://a57.foxnews.com/img.foxnews.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/politics/660/371/Poll%201.jpg
Now American Latinos need to learn how to say, "Fuck presidents! Where are my workers' councils?"
Last notes: I hope that I will not end up doing this thread all by myself. I am asking that all other people with good news stories on Hispanic/Latino issues post here. I might get lazy or sick one day (I have vision problems) and not do any stories, so expect a discussion to still go on if you guys really care (which it is ok if you do not).
Also, people from Spain and other Spanish speaking territories, please feel welcome to add to the conversation. I am sorry, but I am Latino (Salvadoran, Cuban, and Dominican), so I do not really become excited by Spanish stories. I will try my best to do some stories from and about Spain, but they will most likely be rare.
I am Latino, yet I am not very good at my mother tongue of Spanish, so do not come writing to me in Spanish and expect me to write back to you in an understandable fashion! You can post stories in Spanish (please do), but do not try to converse with me in said language, unless I feel comfortable enough one day to spark up my own conversation with you. Your Spanish gets a little rusty when you have been speaking only English since you were five years old.
I am going to make a Latino group on RevLeft (specifically for Latinos, but Hispanics and other races can join). Please join.
Here is the group: http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=940
Thank you!
¡Gracias!