Do The Ends Justify The Means.

[Brosa Luxemburg]

Thought that this article was good. What do you guys think?

http://socialistworker.org/2012/04/06/do-the-ends-justify-the-means

[marl]

That's a pretty good article considering it's coming from the ISO.

[Brosa Luxemburg]

I swore more people would want to discuss this article!

[Os Cangaceiros]

I'd already read that in "The Meaning of Marxism". D'Amato is kind of turd. His description of dialectics is good, though.

Not that I'm even a "believer" in dialectics, but one could do worse than his description in that particular book.

[Althusser]

No. A quickly industrialized Russia was not worth the lives it costed.

[Caj]

Marx said, "[A]n end which requires unjustified means is no justifiable end."

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1842/free-press/ch05.htm

[Ostrinski]

How do you measure how to justify the means if the end is justified?

[Capitalist Octopus]

Yes. But only if the means actually bring about the end in question.

[Althusser]

That quote is a bit of a paradox, but we know what he meant.

[desire]

This is from Saul Alinsky's "Rules For Radicals"
"Does the end justify the means?" is meaningless as it stands: the real and only question regarding the ethics of means and ends is, and always has been, "Does this particular end justify this particular means?"
In times of revolution so long as the ends are ACHEIVED then the means become justified in the history of the revolution. If nothing is being gained by what you are doing then reapproach whatever your doing.

[chronix]

This phrase was intricate and delineate base on peoples understanding.