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Marcus Clayman
6th April 2012, 01:26
Hey, Mike here from Maine in the US.

Been travelling for a while and involved in an occupy group, my first experiences in activism, organizing people, and direct actions. It was a great lerning experience but im ready for more,,

more critical dialogue about tactics/strategy/philosophy/etc
and more practical experience

anyone from maine, id like to talk with more about what we can do... im interested in organizing facilitation trainings to bring more general assembly, direct democratic alternatives to community governance, to every day people... i think maine would foster this well and be good place to experiment with it/learn from it in rural and small town areas


also i have this pet project, of creating a DIY Organization Structure Modular Kit handbook, lol, long name, big idea... i want to make organizational methods more understandable for people who aren't organizational theorists... because from my experiences, people tend to organize in conventional methods, or in an ad hoc way,spontaneous without really looking at various options and their merits critically... sometimes people pick a way of organizing because of some percieved moral merit, such as anarchists and democraticists(both of which I identify with on moral grounds, but see the practical merits of top down management in some situations, such as strategic spontaniety, group coordination, focus, etc) and sometimes, when there is no process, people make up their own rules, and this can create an unintended meritocracy/despotic situation, competition over individual autonomy vs inclusiveness of everyone in a decision, avoidable ego clashes, etc etc

anyway, lots of interests... mostly organizational theory and practical process issues, although I am not a process nazi, I dislike the negative side of beurocracy as much as anyone, and the ideal of ultimate autonomy and spontaniety with equality and consensus are what I, and I think everyone compassionate and rational, would be aiming for? but my limited experience in activist groups, has shown me, that lack of use of process/organizational structure, in some incidences allows some of the same systemic and cultural injustices that we are fighting against, and many others, to be recreated on a micro scale within our activist groups. it's like assuming everyone is equal, quite naively, and then doing nothing to make sure that's the case. Leaving it up to individuals, may be what we have to do, and the burden is always on individuals anyway, to intepret and apply a process, or make up their own way, but a process can protect us from ourselves sometimes, and be used as a working model to define goals and measure success. and are a big part of what is, and has always been a major weakness in leftist movements... since we are not just rallying and making a bunch of noise, but challenging deep rooted systemic things, we have to aproach them on multiple levels, and in my opinion, that means organizing in critical ways.

See you all around the boards, peace!

TheGodlessUtopian
6th April 2012, 05:39
Heya Mike, I too am from Maine.

Mr. Natural
6th April 2012, 15:25
Welcome! I'm on the opposite coast of the US, but I can feel your energy from here.

ellipsis
16th April 2012, 02:19
Vermont-born-and raised comrade here. Welcome to the forum!

ellipsis
16th April 2012, 02:22
BTW, your DIY organizational kits sounds interesting, i have notice a lot of the same problems with organizations, keen analysis comrade!

bad ideas actualised by alcohol
16th April 2012, 15:57
Isn't Maine the place where every Stephen King story takes place?
Oh and Welcome ;)

ellipsis
16th April 2012, 17:07
Stephen King lives and almost died in maine. According to the owner of the car that hit him, his dog was driving him in his truck to the store to get a snickers, then HIS DOG hit stephen king with his car. True story.

and Ive been to the store where he was hit.

Alfonso Cano
19th April 2012, 18:05
Welcome Mike. :)

Left Leanings
19th April 2012, 19:12
Welcome to RevLeft :)

Marcus Clayman
20th April 2015, 00:25
Ok. Back after years away. Forgot about this forum. Folks from maine and region want to connect? What are you involved in these days?

I'm mostly doing homeless solidarity work, advocating for municipal land reform in portland and running for mayor to make that a public dialogue.

Q
20th April 2015, 18:19
Welcome back :)

Ele'ill
21st April 2015, 14:40
and running for mayor

:|

The Garbage Disposal Unit
22nd April 2015, 13:36
What's the thrust of your Mayoral campaign? Have you followed any of the entertaining antics of the "Class War Party" in the UK?

I'm in Nova Scotia - not far off from Maine, and similar in many respects (albeit, with a different weird accent).